[ CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]
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I'D LIKE TO DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
THANK YOU. APPROVAL OF AGENDA.
[ APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR?[ CALL TO THE PUBLIC At this time any member of the public is allowed to address the Town Council on any issue within the jurisdiction of the Town Council, except for items scheduled for a Public Hearing at this meeting. The speaker may have up to three minutes to speak. Any persons wishing to address the Council must complete a speaker card located outside the Council Chambers and deliver it to the Town Clerk prior to the commencement of the meeting. Individuals addressing a meeting at the Call to the Public will not be provided with electronic technology capabilities beyond the existing voice amplification and recording capabilities in the facilities. Pursuant to the Arizona Open Meeting Law, at the conclusion of Call to the Public, individual members of the Council may respond to criticism made by those who have addressed the Council, and may ask staff to review the matter, or may ask that the matter be placed on a future agenda.]
A CALL TO THE PUBLIC.DO I HAVE ANYBODY? I DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD.
INTERIM MAYOR POST FROM MR. BRENDAN LYONS, PLEASE.
[INAUDIBLE] . TEST. HERE WE GO. THANK YOU.
I'D LIKE TO FIRST OFF THANK STAFF FOR THEIR CONTINUED WORK ON THE TOWN OF MARANA'S PROPOSED DRAINAGE MANUAL FOR ENGAGING STAKEHOLDERS SUCH AS SABA THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. WHILE WE ARE NOT HERE.
ONE IS THE PREFERRED HYDROLOGY MODELING PROGRAM.
SEVERAL OF OUR MEMBERS AND ENGINEERS HAVE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT THE FLOW 2D AS PREFERRED SOFTWARE IS COSTLY, SUBSCRIPTION BASED, AND HAS LIMITED EXPERIENCED USERS IN THE MARKETPLACE.
IT'S A MORE COST EFFECTIVE AND PRACTICAL SOLUTION.
THE SECOND ITEM WITHIN THE DRAINAGE MANUAL IS THE USE OF NON REGIONAL HYDROLOGIC DATA.
WHILE APPROPRIATE UPSTREAM OF THE CAP CANAL REQUIRING NON REGIONAL DATA WEST OF THE CAP LIKE OLD TOWN, MARANA AND SURROUNDING FARMLAND CREATES CHALLENGES.
REGIONAL DATA BETTER MODELS RUN OFF IN THESE FLATTER AREAS, ACCOUNTING FOR MULTIPLE WATERSHED FLOWS AND REDUCING UNNECESSARY COSTS AND COMPLEXITIES FOR DEVELOPMENT.
WE RESPECT STAFF'S EFFORTS, BUT BELIEVE THAT THESE ISSUES DESERVE FURTHER DISCUSSION.
WE ASKED VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO CONSIDER TABLING THIS ITEM.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ON THE AGENDA AND IF IT'S NOT TABLED, HOPEFULLY FURTHER DISCUSSION CAN ENSUE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
[ MAYOR AND COUNCIL REPORTS: SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS]
COUNCILMEMBER COMERFORD.YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THE NEXT DAY AND OF COURSE, FROM, I'M SURE FROM ALL OF US.
WE WISH YOU THE VERY BEST FOR YOUR HOLIDAYS AND EVERYONE ELSE IN ATTENDANCE AS WELL.
BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, FEEL IT FEEL IMPORTANT TO TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE CARED FOR DEEPLY BY GOD AND COUNTRY AND THAT WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST FOR THE HOLIDAYS AND THE NEW YEAR.
ANYWAYS TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES AND LOVE ON YOUR BABIES.
JUST GOT THE JANUARY ISSUE OF ARIZONA HIGHWAYS.
WE MOST. A LOT OF US MAY GET THEM.
THERE'S A BIG SPREAD IN HERE ABOUT THE GRANDEST OF CANYONS.
RIGHT BEFORE THAT SPREAD OF THE GRANDEST OF CANYONS.
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WHICH IS THE BIG FEATURE IN THAT IS THIS AD.LOOK AT THIS BEAUTIFUL AD ALL ABOUT MARANA.
DISCOVER MARANA RIGHT HERE, PART OF THIS TOWN OF MARANAS.
STAFF HAS PUT THIS AD IN HERE.
IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN IT. IT MAY HAVE BEEN RUNNING FOR A WHILE, BUT I THINK IT'S GREAT.
IT TALKS ABOUT THE 29 MILES OF TORTOLITA PRESERVE, THE IRONWOOD NATIONAL FOREST, THE.
IT'S JUST A TREASURE OF MARANA, SANCTUARY COVE AND SAGUARO NATIONAL PARK'S WEST.
TALKS ABOUT ALL THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS, HIKE IT AND REALLY LIKE IT.
JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
KUDOS TO MARANA FOR HAVING IT.
100,000 PEOPLE SAW THIS AD, SO HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BRING SOME VISITORS HERE.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER OFFICER.
NO REPORT. COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO HIT CHRISTMAS WITH A TREE LIGHTING.
GO AHEAD. PATTI. SHE'S MUCH BETTER AT THAT THAN I AM.
BUT WE HAD A BEAUTIFUL TREE LIGHTING.
THIS ONE, I THINK, IS JUST THE BEST.
THE SURROUNDING AREA WAS BEAUTIFUL.
IT WAS JUST A VERY NICE TIME AND THANK YOU TO PARKS AND RECS.
JIM AND WAYNE AND YOUR DEPARTMENT FOR PUTTING ALL OF THAT TOGETHER.
I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT, BUT IT WAS JUST A VERY NICE EVENT.
BUT TERRY AND VICE MAYOR GOT US THROUGH IT.
SO THOSE WHO LIVE IN GLADDEN FARMS, IT'S OPEN.
OR I THINK IT'S BEEN OPEN AND THAT'LL DO IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER. OFFICER AND I WE ATTENDED THE CWA MEETING IN LAS VEGAS COLORADO WATER USERS ASSOCIATION MEETING AND IT REALLY COMPOSES OF THE UPPER AND LOWER BASIN STATES THAT ATTEND THIS MEETING WHO USE CFP WATER.
I THINK THE MAIN CRUX OF THE MEETING WAS THAT THEY WANTED SOME COOPERATION BETWEEN THE UPPER AND LOWER BASIN STATES TO CONSERVE WATER AND SO BASICALLY LOWER BASIN STATES HAVE AGREED TO PROGRAM HOW THEY WILL CONSERVE WATER.
BUT I THINK IT WAS A GOOD MEETING.
THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU HERB.
SO THIS WAS THE FIRST FULL TIME EFFORT THAT I HAVE HAD TO TRY TO CONQUER MAYOR HONEA SCHEDULE AND HE STAYED BUSY.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT HE WAS A VERY BUSY MAN.
BUT I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THREE THINGS.
NUMBER ONE WOULD BE THE CHRISTMAS EVENT.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE ONLY ATTENDED 1 OR 2 OF THEM OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE I HAD A CHRISTMAS EVENT BUT I'M NO LONGER DOING THAT, WHICH KIND OF WORKS OUT.
BUT I WAS JUST BLOWN AWAY ABOUT OUR THE TOWN OF MARANA'S CHRISTMAS EVENT.
SO SECOND THING I ATTENDED THAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE PINAL PARTNERS MEETING.
AND THERE WAS A LOT OF CONDOLENCES FROM HIS FRIENDS THAT HE KNEW AT THE PARTNERSHIP THAT THE LEAGUE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE MAYORS THAT HE SERVED WITH OVER THE YEARS AND IT WAS REALLY VERY TOUCHING.
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I SPOKE A LITTLE BIT.THEY HONORED HIM AND IT WAS VERY NICE.
THEY DID AN ECONOMIC FORECAST.
BUT IT'S WHAT ARIZONA IS GOING TO BE GOING INTO IN THE NEXT TEN, 15, 20 YEARS.
WE'RE THE FOURTH LARGEST, FASTEST GROWING STATE AND THE NUMBER OF.
WELL, LET ME JUST PUT IT THIS WAY.
THEY'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT CALLING ALL THE WAY INTO CASA GRANDE IN TEN YEARS.
LASTLY, I'D LIKE TO TELL THE COUNCIL ABOUT A MEETING THAT I HAD WITH GARY ABRAMS ALONG WITH SOME OF THE STAFF. I KNOW TERRY IS GOING TO BE CONTACTING THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND DISCUSSING OUR MEETING, BUT I REALLY DO HAVE HIGH HOPES THAT THE MEETING WENT WELL AND I HAVE HIGH HOPES THAT WE CAN BRING THAT TO A RESOLUTION AT THE OUT AT THE AIRPORT AND BOTH HE AND THE TOWN CAN CONTINUE TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
[ MANAGER’S REPORT: SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS]
ROZEMA. ACTING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, JUST A FEW THINGS.SFR UPDATE 28 SFR SO FAR THROUGH THE MONTH OF DECEMBER AND LAST YEAR FOR THE ENTIRE MONTH, WE HAD 83 EACH OF YOU HAS BEEN CONTACTED AND I KNOW AS RSVP ALREADY.
THE AQUATIC CENTER AND COMMUNITY CENTER ARE MOVING ALONG QUITE NICELY, AND WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO HAVE THE COUNCIL DO A PREVIEW OF WHERE THINGS ARE AT AND SO ON JANUARY THE 7TH, WE'LL MEET OVER THERE AND GO THROUGH IT, HAVE SOME SANDWICHES, GIVE YOU KIND OF A PREVIEW OF HOW THINGS ARE PROCEEDING.
I THINK YOU'LL BE EXTREMELY IMPRESSED AND I IT'S WONDERFUL DRIVING PAST IT.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN GET A FULL APPRECIATION FOR THE FACILITY UNTIL YOU'RE STANDING INSIDE OF IT.
COUNCIL, YOU DID A WONDERFUL JOB COVERING THE HOLIDAY FESTIVAL, SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT EXACTLY WHERE IT IS, BECAUSE IT WAS A FANTASTIC EVENT AND GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. A COUPLE OF REMINDERS HERE.
WE DID DO A REAL TALK PODCAST EPISODE.
IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LISTEN TO IT.
WE HAD LISA SHAFFER ON THERE AND LISA ALONG WITH BRIAN KELLY TO TALK ABOUT THE MAYOR, AND WE USED A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT CAME IN FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THEN TALKED ABOUT THOSE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT PEOPLE BROUGHT FORWARD.
SO IT WAS A GOOD TIME WITH THE TWO OF THEM.
AND AS A REMINDER, WE DO HAVE HIS MEMORIAL SERVICE THIS COMING SATURDAY RIGHT HERE AT THE MMC AT 1:00 AND SO WE HOPE PEOPLE TURN OUT TO CELEBRATE MAYOR HONEA'S LEGACY AND LIFE WITH US AND LASTLY, JUST A BRIEF REMINDER THAT ON JANUARY THE 7TH, WE DO HAVE A LEGISLATIVE BREAKFAST WITH THE LP, 17 REPRESENTATIVES RIGHT HERE AT THE MMC WITH THE COUNCIL, AND THAT WILL BE AT 8:30 AT THAT TIME AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
YES. COULD I ASK? ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.
TERRY. THINKING OF THE AQUATIC CENTER AND THE TOUR IN THE NEXT MONTH, MAYBE.
COULD YOU PROVIDE THE COUNCIL WITH A WHAT THE BUDGET LOOKS LIKE? I THINK THE TOTAL BUDGET WAS.
WAS IT 64? 65 MILLION? 64 MILLION.
HERE AND THERE. COULD YOU PROVIDE US WITH WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW? WE'RE WITHIN THREE MONTHS, MAYBE, OF BEING FINISHED.
HOW? WELL WE'VE DONE THAT BUDGET.
IF THERE'S BEEN ANY CHANGE ORDERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAS BUMPED IT UP A BIT.
OR MAYBE WE'RE SAVING A FEW DOLLARS, I DOUBT IT WITH THIS ECONOMY.
ACTING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
ITEM P1, ITEM P1 FEE STRUCTURE FOR MARANA AQUATIC AND RECREATION CENTER.
[ Fee Structure for Marana Aquatic and Recreation Center.]
MR. CONROY.INTERIM MAYOR. POST COUNCIL MEMBERS.
HONOR TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND TO PRESENT THE FEE STRUCTURE FOR THE NEW AQUATIC AND RECREATION CENTER.
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THIS IS A FOLLOW UP TO OUR MEETING WITH YOU ON AUGUST 13TH.IT'S VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SAW ON AUGUST 13TH.
THERE'S REALLY NO CHANGES OTHER THAN A COUPLE ITEMS THAT WE LOOKED INTO.
WE DID RESEARCH FOR A DISCOUNT FOR VETERANS AND FOR ACTIVE MILITARY, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT AND THE PRESENTATION OUTLINE, IT'S PRETTY CONCISE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FIVE SLIDES WITH THE DATA THAT WE'LL HAVE.
THE MEMBERSHIP PASSES, THE RENTAL OF THE SPACES, THE RENTAL OF THE SPACES.
WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT DURING THE STUDY SESSION, ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ROOM.
WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, WEDDINGS AND FAMILY CELEBRATIONS.
WE'LL CLOSE AT 6. SO WE WILL HAVE SOME AFTER HOURS IN REGARD TO RENTALS.
SO THAT'S THE STRUCTURE OF THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.
MEMBERSHIP PASSES RENTAL OF SPACES AND THEN AFTER HOUR RENTALS AND NEXT STEPS BEFORE WE GET INTO THE PRESENTATION, I JUST DID WANT TO MENTION THAT IF WE DO RECEIVE YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD, IT'LL GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC NOTICE PROCESS FOR 60 DAYS.
IT WOULD THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 25TH FOR ADOPTION.
WE WOULD THEN HAVE A GREEN LIGHT TO SELL PASSES ON APRIL 1ST, AND WHAT OUR PLAN IS, IF EVERYTHING PROGRESSES ACCORDINGLY, IS THAT WE WANT TO DO A PRESALE IN MID-APRIL.
MAYBE WE'D SELL A COUPLE HUNDRED PASSES PRIOR TO THE OPENING ON MAY 3RD OR MAY 10TH.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE TIMEFRAME, AND WE'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO THE PRESENTATION.
WAYNE IS GOING TO KICK IT OFF WITH THE PASSES AND THE MEMBERSHIPS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE.
INTERIM MAYOR POST. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
AS JIM MENTIONED, THERE AREN'T A LOT OF CHANGES.
SO THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU INITIALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RESIDENTS.
I JUST WILL REMIND YOU THAT WE ARRIVED AT THESE NUMBERS BY RESEARCHING OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE AND ARRIVING AT A NUMBER THAT WE FELT WAS FAIR AND REASONABLE FOR RESIDENTS OF MARANA. I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE DIFFERENT PASS TYPES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ARE YOUTH, ADULT, SENIORS, AND FAMILY AND THEN WE'LL OFFER DAILY PASSES AS WELL AS MEMBERSHIPS THAT WILL BE MONTHLY, SIX MONTH AND ANNUAL.
SO THE FIRST ONE RELATES TO RESIDENTS AND WHO WOULD QUALIFY FOR THE RESIDENT RATE.
SO THE FIVE ZIP CODES THAT ARE LISTED ARE ZIP CODES THAT ARE IN MARANA OR PARTIALLY IN MARANA AND OUR PROPOSAL IS RATHER THAN TO STICK STRICTLY TO THE MARANA TOWN BOUNDARIES, IS TO INCLUDE THOSE ZIP CODES IN THEIR ENTIRETY.
SO CURRENTLY THEY PAY $40 FOR THEIR ANNUAL PASS.
OUR PROPOSAL IS THAT AS A BENEFIT OF THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE NEW CENTER TWO DAYS A WEEK AT DESIGNATED TIMES AT NO ADDITIONAL COST AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE 500 PLUS MEMBERS IN THAT PROGRAM WHO WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS BENEFIT.
YOU ALSO ASKED US TO BRING BACK A PROPOSAL FOR A DISCOUNT FOR VETERANS.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING A 10% DISCOUNT FOR VETERANS AND ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY, AND THIS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO BE USED ON INDIVIDUAL PASSES OR FOR FAMILY PASSES. SO RECOGNIZING RECOGNIZING THE IMPACT OF SERVICE ON THE FAMILY.
WE FELT THAT WAS A FAIR BENEFIT AND THEN THE LAST POINT HERE RELATES TO CHILD WATCH.
SO YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE CHART THAT CHILD WATCH IS ONLY LISTED FOR THE DAILY PASS AND THAT'S BECAUSE ANY CHILD LISTED ON A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP CHILD WATCH IS INCLUDED IN THAT MEMBERSHIP. SO.
SO THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THE VETERANS.
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SO 10% DISCOUNT ON ANY MEMBERSHIP.SO ANY MEMBERSHIP IS 10% OFF, RIGHT.
CORRECT. EVEN ON THE DAY PASS INTERIM MAYOR POST COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER.
WE DID NOT INCLUDE IT IN THE DAY PASS.
YOU'RE WELCOME. APPRECIATE IT.
COUNCILMEMBER KAI. I JUST HAVE ONE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO.
THAT INCLUDES THE TOWN OF RILLITO AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO SOME OF THE REGIONAL RESIDENTS.
BUT LET'S JUST LOOK INTO IT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE.
MAYBE IT'S MORE THAN THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S MOSTLY RILLITO.
SO LET'S LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO THERE.
INTERIM MAYOR POST, COUNCILMEMBER KAI.
WELL, COUNCILMEMBER KAI, I WAS GOING TO COMMENT THAT I WAS VERY PLEASED WITH THE INCLUSION OF PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT NECESSARILY IN THE TOWN BOUNDARIES, BUT RESIDED IN THE ZIP CODE.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IN THE TOWN BOUNDARIES THAT FEEL LIKE THEY'RE RESIDENTS OF MARANA AND SO YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY RESPONSE ABOUT RILLITO WOULD BE, THERE COULDN'T BE THAT MANY PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, YOU KNOW AND SO AND THEY PROBABLY DON'T SAY THEY LIVE IN RILLITO.
THEY PROBABLY SAY THEY LIVE IN MARANA.
I HOPE THEY SHOULD NOW, BUT I'M VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE INCLUDING A COMMUNITY ESSENTIALLY INTERIM MAYOR POST, AND THAT THAT WAS OUR INTENT WITH THIS.
BUT, VICE MAYOR, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY APPROPRIATE.
8565454 SO THAT WHEN WE PUT IT OUT FOR THE 60 DAYS, THAT'S A PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
THESE ARE THE SAME FEES THAT WE SHARED ON AUGUST 13TH AND FOR NONRESIDENTS BASED ON THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE FEE SCHEDULE, IT DICTATES THAT WE ADD A 25% FEE AND THAT RESULTS IN THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE HERE AND THEN JUST DOWN WE'LL COVER THOSE BULLET POINTS QUICKLY.
NONRESIDENT SENIOR CLUB MEMBERS WILL STILL BE AVAILABLE.
STILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT BENEFIT OF TWO ADDITIONAL DAYS FOR FREE AT THE NEW CENTER.
NONRESIDENT VETERANS AND ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY ARE STILL ELIGIBLE FOR THE 10% DISCOUNT, AND NONRESIDENTS ARE STILL ELIGIBLE TO USE CHILDWATCH AND IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON PASSES AND MEMBERSHIPS, I'M GOING TO ASK BRANDON TO COME UP AND SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT THE RENTABLE SPACES.
VICE MAYOR. I HAD A QUESTION ON THE ON SOME OF THAT.
OKAY. YEAH. SORRY ABOUT THE DELAY.
DID YOU HAVE A IS THERE GOING TO.
DO YOU NEED TO PUT IN THERE FOR THE SILVER SNEAKER PEOPLE MEDICARE BECAUSE THEY CAN GET IN UNDER SEVERE UNDER SOME GOOD DISCOUNTS AND THE TOWN OF MARANA GETS PAID. IS THAT PART OF THIS AS WELL? INTERIM MAYOR POST.
WE WE ARE CURRENTLY RESEARCHING THOSE PROGRAMS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT OFFER PROGRAMS. AS YOU'RE DESCRIBING.
WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
YOU'RE WELCOME. APPRECIATE IT.
INTERIM MAYOR POST MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
I'M GOING TO TRANSITION TO START THE DISCUSSION ON RENTABLE SPACES.
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WE HAVE TWO MULTI-PURPOSE ROOMS THREE COURTS THAT MAKE UP THE ENTIRETY OF THE GYMNASIUM.THERE'S TEN OF THOSE IN TOTAL AND THEN WE HAVE SWIM LANES.
SO WITH THAT I'LL JUMP INTO THE DOLLAR FIGURES AGAIN, SAME RENTABLE AMENITIES.
THE FIRST COLUMN THAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THE RESIDENT RATE.
THIS IS THESE ARE THE SAME DOLLAR FIGURES THAT WERE PRESENTED TO YOU ALL ON AUGUST 13TH.
SO THOSE NUMBERS HAVEN'T CHANGED.
BUT WE DID GO BACK TO OUR COMPARABLE AGENCIES, DIVE INTO SOME OF THAT RENTAL DATA EVEN DEEPER, AND WE WANT TO INCLUDE NOT ONLY A NONRESIDENT RATE THAT IS THE SAME 25% INCREASE THAT YOU WOULD SEE ON MEMBERSHIPS, BUT A COMMERCIAL RATE.
THE COMMERCIAL RATE WAS IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL'S COMMENTS ABOUT POTENTIALLY BEING INUNDATED WITH COMMERCIAL USE, AND AGAIN, DIVING BACK INTO SOME COMPARABLE DATA, WE FIND THAT MOST OTHER COMPARABLE AGENCIES WOULD CHARGE THAT COMMERCIAL RATE, AND THAT'S 100% INCREASE OF THE RESIDENT RATE AND THAT THESE AMENITIES, OF COURSE, ARE DURING HOURS OF OPERATION.
SO NEXT UP WE HAVE THE AMENITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AFTER HOURS OF OPERATION.
OR YOU CAN RENT THE ENTIRETY OF THE AQUATIC CENTER AND THAT'S THAT LAST ROW THERE.
AS I MENTIONED IN MY POST AND COUNCIL MEMBERS PRETTY CONSOLIDATED.
IT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAW ON AUGUST 13TH WITH THE ADDITION OF THOSE AREAS THAT WAYNE COVERED, PARTICULARLY WITH THE VETERANS NEXT STEPS, WHICH I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE 60 DAYS, IF THERE AGAIN, PER YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING WILL GO OUT 60 DAYS.
WE'LL COME BACK ON FEBRUARY 25TH FOR ADOPTION.
AND AS I SAID, WE'D BE LOOKING AT A MID-APRIL DATE IN REGARD TO STARTING THOSE PRE-SALES.
OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR JIM? COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER INTERIM MAYOR GOT IT RIGHT, JIM.
I THINK THE WE HADN'T DISCUSSED IT EARLIER, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA WITH THE PRE-SALE.
I WOULD NEVER THINK OF THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, IT JUST GETS PEOPLE MORE EXCITED, SO GOOD JOB ON THAT.
IT'S A NICE AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM AND YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD GET 150, 200 PEOPLE JOIN AHEAD OF TIME, I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME PRESSURE OFF ADMINISTRATIVELY. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST CUSTOMER SERVICE WISE, YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT ONLY GETTING THAT NUMBER.
NO, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT MORE.
MY NEXT QUESTION IS GOING TO BE DO YOU HAVE A CUTOFF? WELL, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO SEE.
OKAY. I MEAN, WE YOU KNOW, WE ARE, RIGHT.
I MEAN, A LOT OF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, SPECULATION.
I MEAN, WE THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS RESPONSE.
I DO TOO. YOU KNOW? I MEAN, AGAIN, WE'RE HEARING IT AT OUR, YOU KNOW, IN OUR YOUTH SPORTS, YOU KNOW, PARENTS ARE ASKING ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, THERE'S JUST THERE'S A NICE LEVEL OF ENTHUSIASM.
SENIORS ARE VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT OVER AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
YOU KNOW, THE SENIOR CENTER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HEARING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE EXCITED.
WE'LL SEE WHERE WE ARE. DIDN'T WE WHEN WE WENT UP TO GOODYEAR, WHERE WERE WE? GOODYEAR. DIDN'T THEY HAVE TO REMEMBER? THEY SAID THEY HAD TO SHUT DOWN.
YEAH THEY DID. THEY HAD THE COMMUNITY AND THE TOWN.
OF COURSE THEY DID AND THERE WERE SIX MONTHS IN OR SOMETHING, AND THEY WERE COMPLETELY OVERWHELMED AND THEY I REMEMBER THEM SAYING THAT, AND THEY HAD TO JUST GO BACK TO CITIZENS OR RESIDENTS ONLY.
YEAH. SO HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
COUNCILMEMBER KAI. VICE MAYOR, JIM, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THESE HOURLY RATES.
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IS THERE ANY OVERTIME NUMBERS THAT WILL BE PUT IN OR.INSTRUMENTAL POSTS COUNCILMEMBER KAI COUNCILMEMBERS.
THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT I THINK FROM YOU KNOW, MANAGING THE FACILITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ON TOP OF, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY'S COMING IN AND THEY'RE DOING A WEDDING AND IT'S TILL 11:00.
I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE DISCIPLINED, ORGANIZED, AND THE EVENT ENDS AT 11:00.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, GOD FORBID, UNLESS THERE WAS A MEDICAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE WAY WE WANT TO MANAGE IT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DEFINED TIMELINE.
THAT'S WHAT THE EVENT IS, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF COOPERATION IN THAT REGARD.
I HAD A COMMENT WHEN YOU PREFACED YOUR PRESENTATION, JIM.
YOU MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING.
AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE AFTER IT'S BUILT IS GENERATIONS OF MEMORIES.
WEDDINGS LIKE YOU SAID, FAMILY GATHERINGS, BIRTHDAY CELEBRATIONS, POOL PARTIES.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE AN AMAZING THING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THAT FACILITY OR RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO LOVE IT AND I THINK THE SOONER WE GET THOSE PASSES SOLD THAT THOSE MEMORIES ARE GOING TO START BEING BUILT.
THANK YOU. SO ONE MORE QUESTION, JIM.
ARE THE PASSES THE FAMILY PASSES? ARE THEY ARE I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF SUMMER CAMPS AND YES, DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES.
DO THOSE ARE THOSE INCLUDE THE FAMILY IN THOSE OR WILL THOSE BE EXTRA INTER MAYOR POST.
YOU KNOW THEY'LL PROBABLY BE A SEPARATE A SEPARATE COST.
ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THEM VERY AFFORDABLE.
YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE THERE'LL BE OPERATIONAL EXPENSES.
I'M GOING TO TRY AND MAKE IT SUPER AFFORDABLE, BUT I.
THAT WOULD NOT BE PART OF THE PAST PROGRAM.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO A MOTION.
VICE MAYOR POST MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
THERE'S NO NEED FOR A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
WE CAN PROCEED AS HAS EXPLAINED.
THANK YOU. HOW'S THAT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ CONSENT AGENDA The Consent Agenda contains items requiring action by the Council which are generally routine items not requiring Council discussion. A single motion and affirmative vote will approve all items on the Consent Agenda, including any resolutions or ordinances. Prior to a motion to approve the Consent Agenda, any Council member may remove any item from the Consent Agenda and that item will be discussed and voted upon separately.]
CONSENT AGENDA.MOTION TO APPROVE MAYOR. SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSES.
ITEM PASSES. COUNCIL ACTION A1 VICE MAYOR POST.
THERE'S A LIQUOR LICENSE ITEM L ONE ROLL PASS.
LIQUOR LICENSE. WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE YOU SHOULDN'T BE DRINKING.
[ Relating to Liquor Licenses; recommendation to the Arizona Department of Liquor Licenses and Control regarding an application for a new series #012 Restaurant liquor license submitted by Bruce Robert Barro on behalf of Barro's Pizza, located at 5825 West Arizona Pavilions Drive, Tucson, Arizona, 85743 (David L. Udall)]
ITEM L ONE RELATING TO LIQUOR LICENSES.RECOMMENDATION TO THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF LIQUOR LICENSES AND CONTROL REGARDING AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SERIES 12 RESTAURANT LIQUOR LICENSE SUBMITTED BY BRUCE ROBERT BARRO ON BEHALF OF BARRO'S PIZZA, LOCATED AT 5825 WEST ARIZONA PAVILIONS DRIVE, TUCSON, ARIZONA 85743. AN INTERIM POST.
MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THIS ITEM INVOLVES AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW RESTAURANT LIQUOR LICENSE.
TOWN STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION, AND IT WAS POSTED FOR THE REQUIRED 20 DAY NOTICE PERIOD.
012. RESTAURANT LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY BRUCE ROBERT BARRO ON BEHALF OF BARRO PIZZA, LOCATED AT 5825 WEST ARIZONA PAVILIONS DRIVE, TUCSON, ARIZONA 85743.
I DO TOO. AND I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ITEM PASSES A1.
[ Public Hearing: Ordinance No. 2024.027: Relating to Development; amending Marana Town Code Title 17 (Land Development), Chapter 17-3 (Administration and Enforcement), Section 17-3-1 (Amendment and rezoning) to add provisions establishing time frames for review of zoning applications; and declaring an emergency (Jane Fairall)]
ITEM A1 PUBLIC HEARING.CHAPTER 17 DASH THREE ADMINISTRATION AND ENFORCEMENT.
SECTION 17 DASH 3-1 AMENDMENT AND REZONING TO ADD PROVISIONS ESTABLISHING TIMEFRAMES FOR RENEW FOR REVIEW OF ZONING APPLICATIONS AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY.
WE ARE IN A PUBLIC HEARING, MISS FARRELL.
VICE MAYOR POST MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
THIS ORDINANCE IS IN RESPONSE TO A SENATE BILL THAT WAS PASSED IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
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1ST, 2025, TO ESTABLISH SPECIFIC TIME FRAMES REGARDING THE REVIEW OF ZONING APPLICATIONS.BUT JUST TO SUMMARIZE IT REQUIRES THAT THE TOWN WILL DETERMINE WHETHER A ZONING APPLICATION IS ADMINISTRATIVELY COMPLETE WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER RECEIVING THE APPLICATION. AND THEN IF WE DETERMINE THAT IT IS NOT ADMINISTRATIVELY COMPLETE, THEN WE WILL PROVIDE A WRITTEN NOTICE WITH SPECIFIC DEFICIENCIES TO THE APPLICANT.
IF IT'S NOT, WE WOULD JUST CONTINUE THAT PATTERN.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS TO THAT 180 DAY TIME FRAME.
THE APPLICANT CAN ASK FOR EXTENSIONS IN 30 DAY INCREMENTS IF THEY NEED TO EXTEND IT FOR SOME REASON AND A ONE TIME EXTENSION OF NOT MORE THAN 30 DAYS CAN BE GRANTED IN EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES.
THIS TIME FRAME DOESN'T APPLY IN A FEW SITUATIONS, AND THAT IS IF THERE WAS A ZONING APPLICATION FOR LAND THAT IS DESIGNATED AS A DISTRICT OF AS A DISTRICT OF HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE BY STATE LAW, OR AN AREA THAT IS DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES, OR LAND THAT IS ALREADY BEEN ZONED VIA A SPECIFIC PLAN WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO THESE TIMEFRAMES, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SO THAT WE CAN BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE LAW BY JANUARY 1ST.
WE, THIS ITEM WAS ORIGINALLY ON THE DECEMBER 3RD AGENDA, AND WE DID CONTINUE IT TILL TODAY AND PER THAT MOTION TO CONTINUE, WE ADDED AN EMERGENCY CLAUSE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IT EFFECTIVE PRIOR TO JANUARY 1ST, 2025.
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE WILL NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? WOULD ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN.
A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 .027.
027 SECOND BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
OPPOSED. ITEM PASSES EIGHT TWO.
AND DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE? YES. YES. AND YOU SAID THAT? I'M SORRY.
CALL]. AND DIDN'T YOU SAY WE HAD AN EMERGENCY CLAUSE? THAT'S THE ROLL CALL. WAS THAT THE ROLL CALL? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.
[ Public Hearing: Ordinance No. 2024.028: Relating to Development; amending Marana Town Code Title 17 (Land Development), amending Chapter 17-6 (General and Miscellaneous Development Regulations) by adding new Section 17-6-14 entitled Accessory Dwelling Units; amending chapter 17-4 (Zoning) by making conforming amendments to sections 17-4-2 (Use matrix) and 17-4-3 (Use conditions matrix); approving the housing impact statement pertaining to this ordinance; and declaring an emergency (Jane Fairall)]
LAND DEVELOPMENT.AMENDING CHAPTER 17-6 GENERAL AND MISCELLANEOUS DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS BY ADDING NEW SECTION 17-6-14 ENTITLED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. AMENDING CHAPTER 17-4 ZONING BY MAKING CONFORMING AMENDMENTS TO SECTION 17-4-2 USE MATRIX AND 17-4-3 USE CONDITIONS MATRIX.
APPROVING THE HOUSING IMPACT STATEMENT PERTAINING TO THIS ORDINANCE AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY.
THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR POST MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
THIS ITEM IS ALSO IN RESPONSE TO A BILL THAT WAS PASSED IN THE PAST LEGISLATURE IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WHICH IS HOUSE BILL 2720. THIS BILL WAS EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 14TH, 2024, AND IT REQUIRES ALL ARIZONA MUNICIPALITIES WITH A POPULATION OF MORE THAN 75,000 PEOPLE TO ADOPT REGULATIONS ALLOWING ADUS ON ANY LOT OR PARCEL WHERE A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IS ALLOWED.
NOW, THE TOWN OBVIOUSLY ISN'T AT 75,000 POPULATION YET, BUT ONE OF THE PARAGRAPHS OF THE BILL STATES THAT IF A MUNICIPALITY FAILS TO ADOPT DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AS REQUIRED BY THE SECTION ON OR BEFORE JANUARY 1ST, 2025, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS SHALL BE
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ALLOWED ON ALL LOTS OR PARCELS ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL USE IN THE MUNICIPALITY WITHOUT LIMITS.SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD SOMETHING ON OUR BOOKS IN OUR CODE PRIOR TO JANUARY 1ST, 2025.
THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSED ORDINANCE WAS BASED ON THE LEAGUE OF CITIES AND TOWNS DID A MODEL ORDINANCE AND OUR FORMER TOWN ATTORNEY, FRANK CASSIDY, WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE LEAGUE ON THE MODEL ORDINANCE, ON TESTIFYING IN COMMITTEES BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE AND LOBBYING FOR CHANGES TO THE BILL.
SO I DID ASK FRANK TO ASSIST ME WITH THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE AND IF YOU LOOKED IN THE IN YOUR PACKET, THERE'S ALSO HOUSING IMPACT STATEMENT THAT IS FROM FRANK.
SO I'LL JUST WALK YOU THROUGH THE ORDINANCE AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS PUT INTO OUR WHAT THIS PROPOSAL WOULD DO IS PUT INTO OUR TOWN CODE WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO UNDER STATE LAW.
WE IT REGULATES ADUS TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT THAT WE CAN UNDER THE NEW STATE LAW.
THIS IS A BILL REGULATING WHAT THE TOWN CAN AND CAN'T DO AND WHAT THE TOWN MUST DO.
HOAS WILL STILL HAVE THEIR CC&R'S AND REGULATE ADUS AS AS I SEE FIT.
SO IT WILL HAVE LIMITED APPLICABILITY FOR SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE IN AN HOA.
SO WE ARE ADDING A WITH THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE, A NEW SECTION TO THE TOWN'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH WOULD BE 17 614 ENTITLED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
WE WOULD USE THE SAME DEFINITIONS THAT ARE IN THE HOUSE.
BILL. AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL THE DEFINITIONS, BUT ON THE SLIDE I HAVE HOW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS DEFINED A PERMITTED USE, WHICH MEANS THAT THESE WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE REQUIRED TO ALLOW AN ADU AS A PERMITTED USE.
THAT MEANS THERE'S NO THERE WON'T BE A PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE'S NOT A REZONING APPLICATION.
THERE'S NOT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
IT'S A PERMITTED USE FOR THAT, PROPERTY.
THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE IS A DETERMINATION THAT THE SITE PLAN CONFORMS WITH ANY APPLICABLE ZONING REGULATIONS AND THEN THE OTHER DEFINITION THAT I HAVE ON THE SLIDE IS RESTRICTED AFFORDABLE DWELLING UNIT, WHICH MEANS A DWELLING UNIT THAT EITHER THROUGH A DEED RESTRICTION OR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN, SHALL BE RENTED TO HOUSEHOLDS EARNING UP TO 80% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
IN A MINUTE, YOU'LL SEE WHY I HIGHLIGHTED THAT DEFINITION.
SO, PER THE HOUSE BILL AND THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, ONCE WE HIT THE 75,000 THRESHOLD IN THIS ORDINANCE GOES INTO EFFECT, ONE ATTACHED AND ONE DETACHED, ADU WILL BE PERMITTED AS A PERMITTED USE ON ANY SINGLE FAMILY LOT OR PARCEL THAT CONTAINS A PRIMARY DWELLING.
IN ADDITION, ONE ADDITIONAL ADU ON LOTS THAT ARE ONE ACRE OR LARGER ARE PERMITTED IF THE ADU IS ON THE LOT IS RESTRICTED AFFORDABLE.
SO THAT IS IT'S GOING TO BE RENTED TO HOUSEHOLDS EARNING UP TO 80% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
SO A POTENTIALLY A LOT THAT'S ONE ACRE OR LARGER COULD HAVE THREE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ON IT.
IT COULD HAVE ONE DETACHED AND AN ADDITIONAL RESTRICTED AFFORDABLE ADU.
THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE ALSO LIMITS THE SIZE OF ADUS TO THE LESSER OF 75% OF THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, OR 1000FT², WHICHEVER IS LESS, IS WHAT THEY CAN HAVE.
SO THAT'S WHERE OUR ZONING CODE WOULD EVER IT REQUIRED.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS CONTENTIOUS ON THIS BILL WAS THE USE OF ADUS FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS.
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THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE LEAGUE WAS ARGUING THAT THE POINT OF THIS IS TO HAVE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SUPPOSEDLY, AND MORE HOUSING SUPPLY.SO USING THEM AS SHORT TERM RENTALS WOULD, SHOULD BE PROHIBITED.
THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BILL.
BUT IT DOES ALLOW THAT THAT IF AN ADU IS GOING TO BE USED AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL, IT'S ONLY IF AND WHILE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY RESIDES ON THE PROPERTY IN EITHER ONE OF THE OTHER ADUS, OR IN THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ON THE PROPERTY.
IT PROHIBITS AN ADU FROM BEING BUILT ON A CURRENT OR PLANNED PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT, UNLESS THE PUBLIC UTILITY PROVIDER GIVES THEIR CONSENT FOR IT AND THIS IS ONE CATCH ALL THAT THE ADU.
THE ALLOWANCE OF THE UP TO THREE ADUS ONLY APPLIES WHERE THE TOWN DETERMINES THAT ADEQUATE PUBLIC UTILITY SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE, AND IF THE APPLICATION COMPLIES WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, BUILDING CODES, FIRE CODES, PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY REGULATIONS.
THESE ADU REGULATIONS, AGAIN, ALLOWING THIS CERTAIN NUMBER OF ADUS DOES NOT APPLY TO ANY SINGLE FAMILY LOT OR PARCEL THAT'S LOCATED ON ANY OF THE LANDS THAT ARE DESCRIBED THERE ON THAT SLIDE.
SO TRIBAL LAND OR LANDS THAT ARE IN THE VICINITY OF VARIOUS AIRPORTS.
THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE THEN ALSO ADDS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT TO OUR CURRENT TABLES, WHERE WE DESCRIBE WHAT USES ARE ALLOWED AND WHAT ZONES. AND FOR TABLE TWO IN SECTION 17-4-2 OF THE TOWN CODE.
IT'S A PERMITTED USE, BUT YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN CONDITIONS.
SO IT WOULD BE A U AND ALL OF OUR AGRICULTURAL, OUR RESIDENTIAL AND OUR COMMERCIAL, THE COMMERCIAL ZONES ALL ALLOW A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL THAT JUST WOULD BE PROHIBITED IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONES, AND THAT WHAT THE U MEANS IN THIS CASE IS LISTED DOWN IN TABLE THREE UNDER SECTION 17-4-3, WHICH IS JUST THAT IT MUST COMPLY WITH ALL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, WHICH ARE THE THINGS THAT I JUST WENT OVER ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDES.
THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER SLIDES HERE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ EACH OF THESE BULLET POINTS, BUT THE BILL INCLUDES A NUMBER OF OTHER ITEMS THAT THE TOWN CAN'T DO AND AFTER DISCUSSION WITH MR. CASSIDY, WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT WE NEEDED TO LIST ALL OF THAT IN OUR TOWN CODE.
SINCE IT'S IN THE STATE LAW, IT SAYS YOU SHALL NOT DO THESE THINGS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO WE INCLUDED THEM IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND I WANTED TO INCLUDE THEM HERE IN THE SLIDES.
THERE'S JUST A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT THE TOWN IS PROHIBITED FROM DOING.
WE CAN'T REQUIRE THAT THERE BE SOME SORT OF FAMILIAL, FAMILIAL OR MARITAL OR PREEXISTING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE OWNER OF THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AND THE ADU LIKE THAT'S BEEN OVER THE HISTORY OF ADUS.
THAT'S BEEN A COMMON THING THAT YOU COULD HAVE AN ADU AS LONG AS A FAMILY MEMBER WAS LIVING IN IT.
WE CAN'T REQUIRE THAT A LOT OR PARCEL HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE AN ADU, OR REQUIRE PAYMENT OF A FEE INSTEAD OF ADDITIONAL PARKING. WE CAN'T REQUIRE THAT THE ADU MATCH THE DESIGN, THE FINISHING MATERIALS OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. WE CAN'T HAVE MORE RESTRICTIVE SETBACKS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAN AND WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING IN THE ZONING AREA FOR ADUS AND SOME OTHER THINGS THERE.
I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER THAT MR. CASSIDY COMPLETED A HOUSING IMPACT STATEMENT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE BEFORE WITH THE TOWN.
THIS WAS ACTUALLY A BILL THAT WAS PASSED IN THE 2023 LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT REQUIRES THE TOWN TO CONSIDER A HOUSING IMPACT STATEMENT REGARDING THE IMPACT OF ANY ZONING ORDINANCE.
TEXT AMENDMENT OF GENERAL APPLICABILITY.
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SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE HAD ONE OF THOSE SINCE THAT BILL WENT INTO EFFECT.AND THE DOCUMENTS IN YOUR PACKET.
BUT AS MR. CASSIDY STATED, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE AVERAGE COST TO CONSTRUCT HOUSING AND BECAUSE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW ADUS WHERE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ALLOWED IN THE PAST OR WERE SUBJECT TO GREATER RESTRICTIONS.
IT SHOULD ULTIMATELY HAVE THE EFFECT OF MAKING HOUSING MORE ATTAINABLE IN MARANA.
THAT CERTAINLY WAS THE POINT OF THE BILL.
AGAIN, THIS IS ONE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ON THE DECEMBER 3RD AGENDA, AND WE MOVED IT TO DECEMBER 17TH.
AND WE PER THAT MOTION, WE'VE ADDED AN EMERGENCY CLAUSE TO THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE IT ON THE BOOKS PRIOR TO JANUARY 1ST, 2025 AND SO WE'LL NEED THE ROLL CALL VOTE FOR THIS ONE AS WELL AND I RECOMMEND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE.
SO WE RECOMMEND THAT WE DO THAT AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER.
JANE, YOU AND I SPOKE ABOUT THIS TWO WEEKS AGO.
I AM NOT A REAL FAN OF THIS AT ALL.
2720. BUT WITH SPEAKING TO YOU AND ANOTHER A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE.
IF. AND I'LL READ, WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS I'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR THIS ITEM.
BUT I WANT IT ON THE RECORD THAT I KNOW THAT THERE COULD BE UNINTENTIONAL CONSEQUENCES WITH THIS.
EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T SAY THIS IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING BILL, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
I'M GLAD OUR HOA'S ARE STILL IN CONTROL, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF THE STATE REALLY COMING DOWN ON CITIES AND TOWNS AND IT'S ALMOST THINKING, I'M THINKING, GOSH, I HOPE WE STAY BELOW 75,000.
BUT WITH THAT SAID AGAIN, VERY, TOUGH THINGS ARE ASKING US TO DO THERE.
AND IT SHOULDN'T AND THEY SHOULDN'T AND JUST ONE QUESTION.
THE SHORT TERM RENTAL IS THAT ALSO APPLIES TO AIR BNB'S.
IS THAT, IF YOU PUT A, AIR BNB BACK THERE THAT'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL RIGHT.
THE ONLY RESTRICTION THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE ON THAT VIA THE BILL IS AGAIN, THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER, IF YOU'RE USING AN ADU AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL, AN AIRBNB OR VRBO, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO ALSO LIVE ON THE PROPERTY.
SO WE NEED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON IT.
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, THIS PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE FROM COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? COUNCILMEMBER KAI.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS A GOOD THING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE IN A COUNTY, THEY HAVE CAREGIVER WHERE A CAREGIVER CAN BUILD A HOME IN A CERTAIN AREA TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR PARENTS OR WHATEVER.
YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAYS RESPECT.
I DISAGREE, BUT WE'LL MOVE ON.
I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME.
COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER. I'D LIKE TO JUST SAY, THE ONLY REASON I'M SAYING THIS IS, AS YOU SAID EARLIER, THE CONSEQUENCES OF US NOT PASSING THIS IS WORSE THAN IF WE DO.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024028.
[ Public Hearing: Ordinance No. 2024.029: Relating to Land Development; adopting amendments to Marana Town Code Title 17 “Land Development”; revising Section 17-1-6 (Definitions), to add a definition for “data center”; revising Section 17-4-2 (Use matrix) Table 2 - Use matrix, to add the data center use and to provide that data centers are prohibited as a principal use in all standard Town zones and allowed as accessory uses in the Town’s industrial zones LI and HI; revising sections 17-4-8 (Industrial zoning districts) and 17-4-16 (Legacy zones) to provide regulations for data centers operating as accessory uses; revising Chapter 17-6 “General and Miscellaneous Development Regulations” to add new section 17-6-13 (Data centers) establishing that data centers may only operate in the Town as a principal use if approved in a specific plan or specific plan amendment adopted through the normal rezoning process, and establishing development regulations for data centers; and designating an effective date (Jason Angell) Resolution No. 2024-108: Relating to Land Development; declaring as a public record filed with the Town Clerk the amendments adopted by Ordinance No. 2024.029, revisions to Title 17 "Land Development" of the Marana Town Code, including revising Section 17-1-6 (Definitions), to add a definition for “data center”; revising Section 17-4-2 (Use matrix) Table 2 - Use matrix, to add the data center use and to provide that data centers are prohibited as a principal use in all standard Town zones and allowed as accessory uses in the Town’s industrial zones LI and HI; revising sections 17-4-8 (Industrial zoning districts) and 17-4-16 (Legacy zones) to provide regulations for data centers operating as accessory uses; revising Chapter 17-6 “General and Miscellaneous Development Regulations” to add new section 17-6-13 (Data centers) establishing that data centers may only operate in the Town as a principal use if approved in a specific plan or specific plan amendment adopted through the normal rezoning process, and establishing development regulations for data centers (Jason Angell)]
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A3. ITEM A3, PUBLIC HEARING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 .029 RELATING TO LAND DEVELOPMENT. ADOPTING AMENDMENTS TO MARANA TOWN CODE TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.REVISING SECTION 17 DASH ONE SIX DEFINITIONS TO ADD A DEFINITION FOR DATA CENTER.
REVISING SECTION 17-4-2 USE MATRIX.
TABLE TWO. USE MATRIX TO ADD THE DATA CENTER USE AND TO PROVIDE THAT DATA CENTERS ARE PROHIBITED AS A PRINCIPAL USE IN ALL STANDARD TOWN ZONES, AND ALLOWED AS ACCESSORY USES IN THE TOWN'S INDUSTRIAL ZONES I AND II, REVISING SECTIONS 17-4-8 INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS AND 17-4-16 LEGACY ZONES TO PROVIDE REGULATIONS FOR DATA CENTER OPERATING.
REVISING. CHAPTER 17-6 GENERAL AND MISCELLANEOUS DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO ADD NEW SECTION 17-6-13 DATA CENTERS ESTABLISHING THAT DATA CENTERS MAY ONLY OPERATE IN THE TOWN AS A PRINCIPAL USE, IF APPROVED IN A SPECIFIC PLAN OR SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT ADOPTED THROUGH THE NORMAL REZONING PROCESS AND ESTABLISHING DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR DATA CENTERS AND DESIGNATING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND RESOLUTION NUMBER.
2024-108 RELATING TO LAND DEVELOPMENT.
MR. ANGEL, I ALMOST FELL ASLEEP THERE.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. VICE MAYOR POST.
PUBLIC HEARING. EVERYBODY JUST ASSUME WE'RE IN A PUBLIC HEARING.
UNLESS I OTHERWISE SAY WE'RE NOT.
INTERIM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW AND BEFORE I GO TOO FAR INTO IT, MISS FARRELL WILL ALSO BE ASSISTING IN ADDRESSING ANY QUESTIONS AS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION.
STEVE DID QUITE A BIT OF THE WORK ON THIS AS WELL.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL JUMP INTO IT.
THE WHOLE REASON AS TO WHY WE'RE DOING THIS SIMPLY GOES WITH, YOU KNOW, WE RECEIVED INQUIRIES AS TO POTENTIAL DATA CENTER USES COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE WENT ABOUT DOING THE RESEARCH, LOOKING AT THINGS, TALKING WITH DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, VISITING DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT FACILITIES, DID EXTENSIVE RESEARCH.
WE PRESENTED THE FIRST DRAFT ORDINANCE AS PART OF A STUDY SESSION IN MAY OF 2024.
AFTER THAT, WE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT DRAFT ORDINANCE, PUT IT OUT FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ABOUT 45 DAYS, ROUGHLY. RECEIVED SOME GREAT COMMENTS BACK, ENGAGED IN FURTHER CONVERSATION AND DIALOG WITH INTERESTED PARTIES, AND THEN ULTIMATELY BROUGHT FORWARD THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT BEFORE THAT IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS THE SAME ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT A PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 30TH AND AT THAT MEETING, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUSLY TO TO BRING IT FORWARD WITHIN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE HERE. FIRST, WE'RE DEFINING THE USE DEFINING DATA CENTERS.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE PRINCIPAL USE AND AN ACCESSORY USE AND THEN THERE'S THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS SITE DESIGN AND BUILDING DESIGN INCLUDED WITHIN THIS THE DEFINITION, I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO READING ALL THIS.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WANT TO POINT OUT SINCE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS IS MISS FARRELL, DID A LITTLE BIT ADDITIONAL RESEARCH WITH HER STAFF AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS IN THE EXAMPLES WAS PROVIDE CLARITY THAT IT ALSO INCLUDES CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING, WEATHER MODELING, AND GENOME SEQUENCING. SO BASICALLY, ALL OF THAT DEAD DATA MINING AND STORAGE FALLS WITHIN OUR DEFINITION OF A DATA CENTER. FROM A PRINCIPAL USE, THE PRINCIPAL USE IS DEFINED AS THE PRIMARY OR PREDOMINANT USE OF ANY LOT OR PARCEL AND THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE, A DATA CENTER WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE CONSIDERED AS A PRINCIPAL USE UNLESS IT IS PART OF A SPECIFIC PLAN THAT IS ADOPTED THROUGH OUR STANDARD REZONING PROCESS.
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FORM OF LETTER OR NOTIFICATION FROM THE POWER COMPANY STATING THAT THEY HAVE ADEQUATE SUPPLY AND THAT IT WILL BE THERE, AND THAT IT WILL NOT HAVE A DETRIMENTAL IMPACT ON THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.THEREFORE, EVERYBODY ELSE'S POWER IS SECURE.
THE INTENDED SOURCE OF WATER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, AND ALSO DOCUMENTATION FROM THE WATER PROVIDER STATING THAT THEY HAVE SUFFICIENT SUPPLIES THERE AND THEN AN EXPLANATION AS TO REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT COMPLIES WITH EACH OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 17-6-13 AND IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO, THERE IS THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO REQUEST A WAIVER FROM THE COUNCIL AND IN THAT WAIVER REQUEST, THEY WOULD EXPLAIN WHY THEY ARE UNABLE TO MEET THOSE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS AND MAYBE WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AS AN OFFSET INSTEAD.
ONE THING THAT IS STATED PERFECTLY CLEAR IN THE ORDINANCE IS THAT MARANA WATER ARE POTABLE WATER SYSTEM SHALL NOT BE USED FOR THE COOLING SYSTEM AND OF ANY DATA CENTER, AND THEREFORE WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR AN IRRIGATION SERVICE THAT WOULD PROVIDE THAT CID COULD PROVIDE THAT WATER, BUT WE WOULD LOOK FOR CONFIRMATION FROM CAC MID TO SAY, YES, WE HAVE WE'VE REACHED AN AGREEMENT AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT WATER SUPPLY.
ADDITIONAL CHANGES WERE MADE RELATED TO THE NOISE REQUIREMENTS, THE NOISE ATTENUATION THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM THE INTERESTED PARTIES AND THE END USERS ON THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY IT'S EASY TO JUST TELL US THE NUMBERS, TELL US WHAT THE DECIBEL READINGS HAVE TO BE, AND WE'LL WE CAN COMPLY WITH THAT REQUIREMENT VERSUS THE ORIGINAL DRAFT OR THE FIRST DRAFT THAT WE HAD WAS DO A NOISE STUDY AND SHOWS ALL THE ATTENUATION AND SHOWS THE PROJECTIONS.
BUT THEN ONCE YOU INVEST POTENTIALLY MILLIONS OR BILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO BUILDING THESE FACILITIES, IF THEY DON'T MEET IT, WHAT'S THE REMEDY? YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT LARGE OF AN INVESTMENT AND NOT KNOW VERSUS IF THERE'S DECIBEL LEVELS, THEY CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE EQUIPMENT AND SCREENING AND ALL THAT.
IF IT'S ABUTTING THE DECIBEL READING IS LIMITED TO 55DB.
THAT'S BOTH DURING THE DAYTIME HOURS AND NIGHTTIME HOURS.
AGRICULTURAL IS 60 DURING THE DAY, 55 AT NIGHT COMMERCIAL IS 65 AND 60, AND INDUSTRIAL IS 72 AND 65.
WE CAN SAY THAT THESE ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBERS AS FAR AS ON THE LOWER SIDE THAN WHERE MAYBE SOME OF THE USERS WOULD LIKE TO BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER IN DECIBEL READINGS IN CERTAIN AREAS.
AT THE BOTTOM THERE WE DEFINE THE DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME HOURS OF OPERATION.
SO DAYTIME IS 7AM TO 7PM EVENINGS ARE 7PM TO 7AM.
SO, JASON, ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT THE WHEN YOU SAY AFFECTED PROPERTY, WOULD THAT BE THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY AROUND THE? INTERIM MAYOR, THAT IS CORRECT.
INTERIM MAYOR, WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT IS AT THE TIME OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN AND AT THE TIME OF WHICH THE FACILITY IS ESTABLISHED, THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING SURROUNDING ZONING OR PROPOSED USE THAT IS THERE.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WELL, ONE OF OUR FARM FIELDS EVENTUALLY TURNS INTO A SUBDIVISION WHICH IS COMMON AROUND HERE.
CORRECT. HOW WOULD WE NOT THE MOST LUCRATIVE BUSINESS IN THE WORLD? YEAH. YES, I UNDERSTAND.
HAVE YOU. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU MAY HAVE VISITED SOME TOWNS AND CITIES WITH THESE DATA CENTERS.
CORRECT? WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY HAVE A SOUND. I MEAN, IS IT A DECIBELS OR A PROBLEM? INTERIM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER CAVANAUGH YES, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
THERE IS A FREQUENCY LEVEL THAT COMES OUT OF THESE DATA CENTERS, AND NOT ALL OF THEM.
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BUT THEN YOU KNOW, DEPENDING UPON THE SIZE OF THESE FACILITIES, THERE'S A LOT OF COOLING FANS, THERE'S A LOT OF MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT THAT'S RUNNING DURING, LET'S SAY, THE HOTTEST TIME OF THE DAY TO HELP KEEP THE TEMPERATURE DOWN INTERNALLY AND SO THE NOISE FROM THAT EQUIPMENT IS WHAT IS TRAVELING AND CREATING THE VIBRATIONS OR THE NOISE TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.CANVAS, WHAT DO THEY CALL THEM? CANVAS CANVASES.
THERE YOU GO AND THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF TOWN, AREN'T THEY? THEY'RE NOT IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
INTERIM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER CAVANAUGH.
ACTUALLY, THEY'RE IN THE MESA AREA.
ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE VISITED WAS THE EASTMARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S ON THE VERY EAST SIDE OF MESA.
THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS SURROUNDED BY PROBABLY 5 OR 6 DATA CENTERS AND WHEN I SAY.
DATA CENTERS THERE, WE'RE TALKING HALF 1,000,000FT² IN SIZE AND THEY'RE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.
NOT TO GET TOO FAR OFF HERE, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE COMMUNITIES WE TALKED TO AND WHERE MESA WENT WRONG IN THEIR STAFF TOLD US, WAS THEY DIDN'T HAVE A DEFINITION OF DATA CENTER ON THEIR BOOKS.
THE INTERPRETATION THEY MADE WAS THAT DATA CENTERS WAS INDOOR STORAGE.
INDOOR STORAGE IN THEIR CODE IS PERMITTED IN ANY COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
ALL OF THAT PROPERTY THAT SURROUNDED EASTMARK WAS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL.
THEY INTENDED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES TO GO IN THERE, AND INSTEAD THE DATA CENTERS BOUGHT THEM ALL UP AND WERE INCORPORATED INTO WHAT WAS PLANNED TO BE A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD, KIND OF THE NEW MODERN NEIGHBORHOOD UP IN THE PHOENIX VALLEY AREA AND IF YOU THINK YOU TALK TO THE TOWN MANAGERS OF SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT HAVE THESE BIG CAMPUSES OF THEM, WOULD THEY DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN IF THEY HAD A CHANCE? INTERIM MAYOR POST.
I DO KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CHANDLER MAYOR AND TOWN MANAGER, AND THEY EXPRESSED SOME FRUSTRATIONS, CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, IN MY OPINION, FROM THE COMMUNITY AND IN CHANDLER.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE OPEN SPACE LIKE WE DO DOWN HERE.
IT'S A LOT OF KIND OF THEY'RE ALMOST BUILT OUT IN MANY AREAS AND THE WAY THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS BEING PROPOSED AND THE WAY THE GUIDELINES ARE THERE IS THAT IT'S SET UP FOR THE COUNCIL TO REVIEW EVERY SINGLE REQUEST THAT COMES IN AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT PARTICULAR SITE IS THE RIGHT LOCATION OR NOT AT ALL. THE EXAMPLE I'VE USED BEFORE WAS SOME OF YOU, IS IT, LET'S SAY IF ONE OF THESE WANTED TO GO IN BY THE LANDFILL.
WOULD WE CARE? YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT MUCH.
WANTS TO DEVELOP NEXT TO A LANDFILL.
RIGHT. SO IT'S AN EXTREME EXAMPLE, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S AT LEAST WORTH CONSIDERING.
SO FROM AN ACCESSORY, USE THE AN ACCESSORY OR A DATA CENTER THAT WOULD COME IN AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
THE DATA CENTER CANNOT OCCUPY MORE THAN 15% OF THE SITE.
THE DATA CENTER IS USED TO SERVE THE ENTERPRISE FUNCTION THAT IS ON THE SITE.
SO THEY'D HAVE TO SERVE THAT HOSPITAL.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, OUR FIRST DRAFT WAS, I THINK MISS FARRELL AND I AND MR. CHESLOCK PROBABLY BECAME ARCHITECTS AT ONE POINT.
BUT THE BUILDING WE TALK ABOUT THE ORIENTATION AND THAT THE PRINCIPAL FACADES, WE WANT THOSE FACING THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR THE AREAS THAT ARE MOST VISIBLE FROM THE COMMUNITY, THOSE PORTIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE LESS APPEALING.
WE WANT THOSE TO BE SHIELDED OR PLACED SO THAT THEY'RE NOT THE PRIMARY FOCUS.
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LIGHTING. THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE MARANA LIGHTING CODE WHICH IS THE DARK SKY REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.SETBACKS. THIS IS THE PORTION THAT I WAS ALLUDING TO.
THE FIRST BULLET THERE YOU SEE UNDER SETBACKS.
IS THAT THE SETBACK FROM IT'S AT LEAST A 400 FOOT SETBACK FROM ANY PROPERTY LINE OF ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT IS PLANNED OR ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL LAND USE.
SO A 400 FOOT SEPARATION THERE AND AT LEAST 100FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE FOR ANYTHING THAT IS PLANNED OR ZONED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN RESIDENTIAL OR INDUSTRIAL INDUSTRIAL DOES NOT HAVE A SETBACK REQUIREMENT BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN THOSE AREAS THE GENERATORS.
GENERATORS MUST BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
THE TESTING IS LIMITED FROM 8 TO 5, AND THAT THE GENERATORS SHOULD ONLY BE USED FOR TESTING OR COMMISSIONING ACTIVITIES.
USED FOR BACKUP OR EMERGENCY USE ONLY.
SCREENING OF MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THEY CAN SCREEN THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IN THE ORDINANCE.
THOSE EXAMPLES ARE YOU COULD USE THE EXISTING VEGETATION ON THE SITE.
THE LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE PROPOSED AS PART OF THAT AND KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE ALL REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU AS PART OF THE REZONING PROCESS. SO YOU WOULD BE SEEING A LANDSCAPING PLAN OR SOMETHING TO SHOW THE SCREENING.
MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT SHALL BE LOCATED AND SCREENED WITH MATERIALS THAT HELP TO REDUCE THE SOUND OR THE IMPACTS ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THEN ELECTRICAL POWER LINES, EXCEPT FOR THE ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION LINES CARRYING GREATER THAN 48 KV, SHALL BE LOCATED UNDERGROUND.
THAT IS OUR THE SAME THRESHOLD THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS.
WE DO HAVE SOME BUFFER REQUIREMENTS FOR AGRICULTURAL AND COMMERCIAL ZONED PROPERTIES.
IT'S A 50 FOOT BUFFER WITH A MINIMUM HEIGHT OF A BERM OF FOUR FEET AND WITH 320 PLANT UNITS PER 100FT RESIDENTIAL OR MIXED USE, IT'S A 100 FOOT BERM, 6FT OR 100 FOOT BUFFER, SIX FEET HIGH BERM, AND 320 PLANT POINTS FOR EVERY 100FT.
NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY CAN ALSO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO IF THERE'S A NATURAL GRADE DROP THERE THAT COULD HELP TO PROVIDE A SCREEN THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED AND UTILITIES SHALL NOT BE LOCATED WITHIN THE BUFFER.
HOW DO YOU GET TO THE PLANT POINTS? THIS IS HOW IT IS.
OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE GOING TO BE VERY SECURE FACILITIES IF THEY WERE TO BE LOCATED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'RE SIMPLY SAYING THAT FENCING IS ALLOWED.
WE JUST DON'T ALLOW FOR CHAIN LINK FENCING OR BARBED WIRE FENCING.
ALONG THE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE STREET FRONTAGES, BUILDING DESIGNS, MASSING AND SCALE.
WE WANT THINGS TO BE BROKEN UP.
WE DON'T WANT TO JUST SEE A FLAT WALL OR GRAY WALL.
BREAK UP THE MATERIALS, BREAK UP THE UNDULATIONS TO HELP CREATE SOME CHARACTER THERE.
WE ARE PROPOSING A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 55FT, BUT ALLOWING FOR AN ADDITIONAL TEN FEET ON TOP OF THAT FOR ANY ROOF MOUNTED, ROOFTOP MOUNTED EQUIPMENT AND THEN THERE IS A NOTE IN HERE THAT THE BUILDING HEIGHT LIMITATION DOES NOT APPLY TO UTILITY SUBSTATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT.
IF A CAMPUS COMES IN, THEY WILL HAVE A UTILITY SUBSTATION WITH THEM.
FACADES. ONCE AGAIN, JUST A MIXTURE OF MATERIALS, BREAKING THINGS UP, COLORS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO ALL OF THESE FOR YOU.
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WE WANT A NICE LOOKING FACILITY IF THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN.FENESTRATION IS ONCE AGAIN THE ARRANGEMENT OF DIFFERENT MATERIALS, DOORS AND WINDOWS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE PARTIES THAT WAS INTERESTED WAS WINDOWS.
THE CLARIFIER WAS DO THEY HAVE TO BE ACTUAL WINDOWS BECAUSE SUNLIGHT BEATING IN IS NOT GOOD? FALSE WINDOWS WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE AS WELL.
SO JUST THE APPEARANCE OF WINDOWS WOULD HELP.
WE WANT THE MAIN BUILDING, THE ENTRYWAY, TO BE PRONOUNCED.
WE WANT IT TO BE OFFSET TO GIVE A KIND OF A GRAND APPEARANCE AND A WELCOMING APPEARANCE SO THAT'S THE DETAILS IN THEIR EXTERIOR COLORS AND MATERIALS.
EMPHASIS ON PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE IS BIG.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR THEM TO INCLUDE AT LEAST FIVE OF THE FOLLOWING ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, WHICH IS OVERHANGS, CANOPIES AND PORTICOS, RECESSES OR PROJECTIONS.
TOWER ELEMENTS, VARIATIONS IN THE ROOF LINE.
SO BREAK IT UP AND MAKE IT MORE WELCOMING RATHER THAN JUST A LARGE BOX.
SO WITH THAT, I KNOW IT'S A LOT.
BUT MYSELF, MISS FARRELL WILL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO IF THERE IS ANY COMMENTS.
OTHERWISE, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE AND SUPPORTING RESOLUTION.
I THINK ALL OF YOU KNOW THAT I WAS NOT THE PERSON IN THE ROOM THAT WAS EXCITED ABOUT DATA CENTERS.
WE DISCUSSED THIS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
I HAVE SINCE THEN WENT OUT AND THIS IS FROM YOU, MITCH STODDARD.
MITCH STODDARD AND LOOKED INTO DATA CENTERS.
AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR DOING TAKING THAT RED LINE AND REALLY PUTTING THAT IN HERE.
LOVED IT. SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO TO THE THREE.
THE THINGS THAT I AM WORRIED ABOUT IN AND GO FROM THERE AND IT'S NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
ALTHOUGH READING MORE AND LEARNING MORE I FEEL A LITTLE BETTER.
BUT ELECTRICITY, THE NOISE, THE WATER IS FOR ME WHAT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT, BUT NOT THE WATER.
LET ME GO FROM THERE. BECAUSE IF [INAUDIBLE] CAN CAN DO THE WATER, I'M FINE.
THE ELECTRICITY, THOSE THINGS TAKE A HUGE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY.
HUGE. SO TEP IS NOW PUTTING IN SOME SUBSTATIONS AND THINGS.
AND IN THAT NEW LINE IS COMING THROUGH AVCO.
WHAT IS THAT, JASON? YEAH. AVCO OKAY.
SO THAT'S GOING TO HELP THIS, RIGHT? BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH POWER RIGHT NOW TO RUN THIS THING 365, 24 OVER SEVEN, BUT I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, SO THE WATER DOESN'T BOTHER ME.
I'M READING THAT YOU CAN AIR COOL THESE THINGS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THAT IN YOUR, YOU KNOW.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
BUT JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
WATER NOISE I SO IT'S AN INCREDIBLY A LOT OF NOISE.
INCREDIBLE. A LOT WITH THE NOISE.
SO I'M OKAY WITH THE NOISE AS LONG AS IT AND I THINK.
OKAY. LET'S PUT THIS THING NEAR PINAL COUNTY LINE.
I WOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT THE AIR PINAL AIRPORT IN THE NORTH.
I KNOW THERE'S LANDOWNERS THERE, BUT YOU KNOW AND THEN, JOHN, I THINK OR MAYOR, I THINK YOU TALKED ABOUT A BUFFER THE FIRST TIME AROUND, BUT I THINK WE DECIDED AND THE BUFFER, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T TOO CRAZY ABOUT THE BUFFER, BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE BUFFER.
WE JUST DON'T WANT THAT IN THE TOWN AND WE DON'T WANT THAT NOISE TO BE ANYWHERE IN THE TOWN.
SO THE LOCATION FOR ME IS IMPORTANT.
SO LOCATION AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE NOISE FOR A MINUTE.
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SO THAT'S THAT COULD YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET THESE DECIBELS, BUT YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO GET A HIGHER THIRD PARTY ACOUSTIC ENGINEER TO CONDUCT A BASELINE SOUND STUDY AND PRODUCE A NOISE CONTOUR, [INAUDIBLE].WHAT IF THEY DON'T MAKE THOSE? I MEAN, JASON, WHAT IF BECAUSE I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, LET'S SAY THEY BUILD THIS AND THEY'RE THEY'RE TESTING AND TESTING AND TESTING AND THEY CAN'T MAKE THESE NUMBERS.
WHAT'S THE MITIGATION THERE? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO MAKE.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BUILD IT TO GET TO TEST THE DECIBELS.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO WITHOUT BUILDING IT, BUT YOU'VE ALREADY BUILT IT.
SO WHAT IF THEY CAN'T MAKE THOSE NUMBERS? INTERIM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER.
WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD HANDLE IT THROUGH OUR NORMAL CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS WHERE WE WOULD ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM AND TRY AND SEE THAT THERE'S EFFORTS TO BRING THEM INTO COMPLIANCE AND THAT THEY'RE TRULY WORKING WITH THEIR ENGINEERS AND THEIR MECHANICS TO TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS, TO BRING IT INTO WHERE IT IS CONFORMING.
IF THEY FAIL TO DO THAT, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE LEGAL RECOURSE THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH THAT.
I WOULD REALLY HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULDN'T HAVE TO OCCUR IF THAT WAS THE CASE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN THING IS WE ALWAYS TAKE THE APPROACH, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS FROM RESIDENTS OR BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS AS LONG AS THERE'S AN EFFORT AND A WILLINGNESS TO WANT TO WORK WITH US TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE AND BRING IT INTO CONFORMANCE, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO THAT WAY.
SO IF THEY DON'T MAKE THOSE NUMBERS, THEY WON'T GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPATION.
COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO BEFORE THE BUILDING PERMIT IS EVEN APPROVED, THEY HAVE TO GIVE US THEIR DESIGN SPECIFICATION FOR THE REQUIRED SOUND MITIGATION.
SO THAT WILL BE BEFORE THEY'RE EVEN GETTING A BUILDING PERMIT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE SPECS FOR SOUND ATTENUATION.
IF THEY DON'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, ONCE THEY'RE DONE WITH CONSTRUCTION, WE WILL ISSUE A TEMPORARY CFO AND THEN THAT'S WHEN WE'LL WORK WITH THEM, LIKE JASON SAID, WHERE THEY'LL HAVE TO MAKE MITIGATION EFFORTS TO GET WITHIN THE DECIBEL LEVELS THAT ARE THAT'S IN THAT TABLE. AND THE CODE SAYS IF THEY CAN'T GET THERE, THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO ISSUE A PERMANENT CFO AND TO FOLLOW ON THAT TEMPORARY CFO IS ARE ISSUED AT 30 DAY INCREMENTS.
SO YOU GET, YOU KNOW, 30 DAYS.
AS SOON AS THAT EFFORT STOPS, THEN WE JUST SAY WE'RE DONE.
RIGHT. I'VE BEEN IN DATA CENTERS, WORKED FOR IBM.
SO I A LITTLE BIT FAMILIAR WITH THEM, BUT I KNOW IT'S NEW TECHNOLOGY, WHICH IS NICE TO SEE, BECAUSE EVERY TIME I SEE A DATA CENTER THING COME UP, THERE'S NEW TECHNOLOGY. SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A DATA CENTER IN MARANA SINCE WE WERE INCORPORATED.
SO I ASKED MYSELF, WHY DO WE NEED ONE NOW? IT'S NOT BECAUSE OUR DATA ISN'T BEING STORED.
I THINK YOU OR SOMEONE SENT ME A MAP OF ALL THE DATA CENTERS IN PHOENIX, AND THERE'S.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S GOT A DATA CENTER.
SO, YEAH, I WAS REALLY SURPRISED HOW MANY DATA CENTERS ARE IN PHOENIX.
MESA. SO I'M JUST ASKING I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE FOR THOUGHT IS WE DON'T HAVE ONE NOW.
AGAIN. BUT AND THAT'S JUST ME THINKING.
BUT IF IT'S IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND I MEAN AWAY FROM THE TOWN, IF IT'S THE WATER IF CMIT CAN STEP UP TO THAT AND I THINK THEY CAN THE ELECTRICITY, THAT'S THE ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE ASSURED THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH ELECTRIC OOMPH OUT HERE BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO JUST DRIVE IT CRAZY.
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GO THROUGH THOSE LIST OF CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERY ITEM THAT YOU'VE DISCUSSED CONCERN ABOUT IS THOSE THINGS ARE DEALT WITH.IN FACT I'M GLAD WE HAD THE CHAT WITH CHANDLER.
OH, THAT WAS VERY EYE OPENING FOR ME AND I'M GLAD THEY TOLD US BECAUSE IT WAS NOT IN OUR WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT AND IT WASN'T IN THEIRS, REMEMBER AND THEY GOT A LOT OF PUSHBACK.
BUT THOSE ARE JUST I'M JUST SAYING I'M, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY.
THREE MONTHS AGO I WAS LIKE, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT NOW I'VE DONE HOMEWORK.
I LOOKED AT THINGS ON THE WEB.
SO AGAIN, JOHN, IF OUR MAYOR IF WE CAN IF PEOPLE WANT TO COME UP AND SHOW US THEIR PLANS. I'M NOT GOING TO LOCK THE DOOR.
MITCH. YOU CAN COME IN, MR. STODDARD. SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.
THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. INTERIM MAYOR.
I HAD A COMMENT. I'M. [INAUDIBLE].
I'M REALLY PLEASED WITH ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN PUT INTO THIS ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, AND NOT ONLY GETTING THE CODE, GETTING IT INTO THE CODE, THE DEFINITION OF A DATA CENTER AND ALL THE DESIGN ELEMENTS ARE PARTICULARLY INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE I ALWAYS ENVISION THESE THINGS BEING A GRAY BOX.
NOTHING, REALLY VERY DESCRIPTIVE, BUT HAVING THESE, PUTTING IN A BUILDING DESIGN STANDARD WITH LOTS OF FAKE WINDOWS, GLASS, SOME SOME BIG ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS.
I THINK IT'LL MAKE IT MORE OF A SELL, BUT I HAD A QUESTION.
DO YOU DO YOU SEE ANY OF THE DATA CENTERS OUT THERE WITH THESE DIFFERENT DESIGN ELEMENTS? INTERIM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER CAVANAUGH.
YES. YOU KNOW, A GREAT AMOUNT OF THE RESEARCH THAT MISS FARRELL DID WAS LOOKING OUT IN VIRGINIA, WHERE THERE IS A ABUNDANCE OF DATA CENTERS MILITARY, YOU KNOW, MAKES SENSE OUT THERE AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THOSE DESIGN ELEMENTS ARE THERE AND WE'RE SEEING THAT A LOT OF THE PHOENIX VALLEY COMMUNITIES HAVE ALSO IMPROVED THEIR ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS TO AVOID JUST THE BIG GRAY BOX GOING UP.
SO YES. AND HONESTLY, WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS STUFF, THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, THOSE PARTIES THAT HAVE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN POTENTIAL DATA CENTERS IN THIS AREA THEY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO ARGUE AS FAR AS THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.
BUT THEY DIDN'T REALLY PUSH BACK TOO MUCH.
THEY WANT A NICE LOOKING BUILDING AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MENTION WELL, I KNOW IT'S JUST TONIGHT EITHER PASSES OR NOT, BUT THE OTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT AND GOT MUCH INTO IT IS THE FINANCES.
SO THAT WILL COME ANOTHER TIME.
BUT WE DID AND LET'S REMEMBER WE DID TALK ABOUT IF WE DO DOWN THE ROAD, GET THE KNOCK ON OUR DOOR AND WE ALLOW WHOMEVER TO COME IN AND WE TALK AND EVERYTHING WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE THAT WE NEGOTIATE THE BEST DEAL THAT WE CAN BECAUSE WHAT I HEARD IN THE LAST SESSION, WE DID A STUDY SESSION WAS THERE'S A GREAT TIME FOR THEM AND FOR US TO NEGOTIATE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT.
BECAUSE THEY ARE ANXIOUS TO COME INTO OUR TOWN.
BUT LET'S NOT JANE, I GUESS I'M SAYING LET'S MAKE THE BEST DEAL THAT WE CAN IF WE GET SO MUCH MONEY.
I KNOW, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH THE BUILDING IS, HOW MUCH WE GET IN, THE 4% TAX ON BUILDING IT.
WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE GETTING THAT MONEY FOR OUR ROADS HELP, OUR ROAD CONDITIONS.
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AND THEN I JUST WANT TO SAY, BUT ONCE IT'S AND WE TALKED ABOUT ONCE IT'S DONE AND ONCE WE'VE GOTTEN WHAT WE'VE NEGOTIATED WITH THEM, THEN YOU JUST HAVE A DATA CENTER AND THE THING I WOULD LIKE TO REMEMBER IS WHAT'S THE RECURRING.RIGHT NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DON'T EMPLOY THAT MANY PEOPLE, AND I KNOW THAT FROM BEING NEAR ONE.
I KNOW THERE'S SUBSIDIARY, THERE'S PEOPLE AROUND THAT ARE GOING TO HELP.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE MAYOR HONEA, GOD BLESS HIM.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE THERE GOING TO BE? AND WILL IT JUST BE LIKE IN CHANDLER, A DATA CENTER, AFTER THEY WALK AWAY? BUT IF YOU CAN CONVINCE ME OR WHOMEVER ABOUT THE RECURRING, WHAT IS THE RECURRING? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'M ONLY SEEING ONE TIME HITS THE 4% IS A ONE TIME HIT.
BUT I DON'T THINK THIS ISN'T THE TIME FOR THIS NOW.
THAT WOULD BE A MUCH SOMETHING FOR US TO THINK ABOUT IF IT'S WHAT WE CAN GET.
THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR POST, IF I MAY.
COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER. JUST ONE CAVEAT TO THAT IS JUST THAT ANY NEGOTIATIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE REASONABLY RELATED TO THE IMPACT OF THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE TOWN.
SO ANYTHING THAT WE'RE NEGOTIATING FOR HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT THIS DATA CENTER IS CAUSING AN IMPACT TO THE TOWN'S ROADS OR SOME OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
IT DOES HAVE TO HAVE A REASONABLE RELATIONSHIP AND WE WILL I THINK, WHEN WE HAVE AN APPLICATION.
I'M PRETTY SURE YOU THOUGHT SHE MEANT A CAR FOR YOU AND ONE FOR YOU.
JANE. I UNDERSTAND. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT.
YES, AND I APOLOGIZE TO BRING IT UP.
BUT IF I DON'T DO IT NOW, IT'S GONE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
WOULD ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE TONIGHT? HEARING NONE. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE'S AN ORDINANCE AND A RESOLUTION.
COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER DON'T READ THE WHOLE THING, THOUGH.
OH. COUNCIL MEMBER CAVANAUGH, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? PATTI COMERFORD. OH, PATTI.
THAT'S OKAY. I MOVED TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024- OR 0.029, INCLUDING THE RESOLUTION OF NUMBER 2024- 108.
SECOND HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ITEM PASSES.
[ Resolution No. 2024-109: Relating to Economic Development; amending the Marana Job Creation Incentive Program (MJCIP) to exclude data centers from the definition of “Targeted Employer” for purposes of the MJCIP (Curt Woody)]
A4. ITEM A4, RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-109 RELATING TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.AMENDING THE JOB CREATION INCENTIVE PROGRAM MJ CIP TO EXCLUDE DATA CENTERS FROM THE DEFINITION OF TARGETED EMPLOYER FOR PURPOSES OF THE MJ CIP.
KURT WOODY, INTERIM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO PARAPHRASE THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU AND GIVE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE JOB CREATION INCENTIVE PROGRAM AND WHAT THIS MEANS THAT WE'RE PUTTING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
I'LL REFER TO IT AS THE MJ CIP AS I GO THROUGH THIS.
STAYING ON THE DISCUSSION OF THE DATA CENTERS AND WHAT THEIR ECONOMIC IMPACT IS ON A COMMUNITY AND THE JOB CREATION ON A THE COMMUNITY IS PALES IN COMPARISON TO, LET'S SAY, A MANUFACTURING FACILITY UNDER THE SAME FOOTPRINT, 50 TO 100 JOBS ON A DATA CENTER, COMPARED TO 1000 TO 2000 JOBS ON A MANUFACTURING FACILITY.
THE ECONOMIC ECONOMIC IMPACT IS CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TONIGHT.
THAT I WOULD CALL PRIMARY JOBS HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD TYPE WAGES.
AND THAT WOULD BE THEY WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC IMPACT ON THE TOWN OF MARANA AND HOW COULD WE INCENTIVIZE THOSE TYPE OF BUILDING OR THOSE SECTORS, THOSE BUSINESS SECTORS? THE PROGRAM ALLOWS FOR EMPLOYERS, IF THEY MEET THE TWO METRICS, TO ENTER INTO THE PROGRAM, THAT THEY CAN APPLY FOR A REIMBURSEMENT OF THE CONSTRUCTION
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SALES TAX THAT THEY HAVE GENERATED ON THEIR PROJECT UNDER ANY ONE OR MULTIPLE OF THE SEVEN ELEMENTS WITHIN THE PROGRAM, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL COMPANIES OVER THE YEARS THAT HAVE APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED REIMBURSEMENT FOR THOSE MONIES.WHAT WE ARE SEEING THAT ON THE ECONOMIC ANALYSIS THAT HAS BEEN DONE BY DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS, ONE BEING APPLIED ECONOMICS, MOST OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IS ON THE FRONT END.
IT'S DURING THE CONSTRUCTION AND IF WE RETURN BACK THE CONSTRUCTION SALES TAX TO THIS INDIVIDUAL, WHICH WOULD CLEARLY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CIP, THERE'S NOT MUCH REVENUE TO THE TOWN OF MARANA BECAUSE OF THAT AND THE ONGOING ECONOMIC IMPACT IS PRETTY MINIMAL.
WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
THAT IS A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR YOU TONIGHT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR. YES, SIR.
I MEAN, YOU'VE THOUGHT THIS THROUGH.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S ONLY ON THE FRONT END.
WHAT DO WE GET? THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH DATA CENTERS, YOU KNOW.
ANYONE ELSE? I'LL DO IT, PATTI.
ABSOLUTELY. MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024- 109.
SECOND. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[ Ordinance No. 2024.025: Relating to Land Development, adopting the Town of Marana Drainage Manual (Jason Angell) Resolution No. 2024-103: Relating to Land Development, declaring as a public record filed with the Town Clerk the Town of Marana Drainage Manual adopted by Ordinance No. 2024.025 (Jason Angell)]
ITEM A5, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 .025 RELATING TO LAND DEVELOPMENT.DRAINAGE MANUAL AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-103 RELATING TO LAND DEVELOPMENT, DECLARING AS A PUBLIC RECORD FILED WITH THE TOWN CLERK THE TOWN OF MARANA DRAINAGE MANUAL ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 .025.
INTERIM MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS.
A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, MR. WARD, DUSTIN WARD WENT THROUGH AND GAVE A PRESENTATION TO YOU.
YOU'VE HAD A COUPLE ADDITIONAL WEEKS TO REVIEW THAT INFORMATION AND ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
SO UNLESS THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR YOU'D LIKE TO SEE A PART OF THAT PRESENTATION, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2024 .025, ALONG WITH THE SUPPORTING RESOLUTION 2024-103.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I HAD A QUESTION.
WE HAD A GENTLEMAN, BRENDAN LYONS, COME UP EARLIER TODAY FROM THE SOUTHERN ARIZONA HOMEBUILDERS ASSOCIATION MENTIONED DIRECTION OF FLOW. D FLOW.
SHOULD WE CONSIDER THOSE ITEMS IN THIS DRAINAGE PLAN TO APPROVE? MR. WARD? SPEAK TO THOSE.
MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER CAVANAUGH, WE DID ACTUALLY CONSIDER THE FLOW 2D AND THE [INAUDIBLE] THE BACK IN 2020 WHEN THE TOWN DID THE BIG STUDY AND WE WENT THROUGH AND ESTABLISHED ALL OF OUR FEMA ZONES, THE MODEL THAT WAS APPROVED BY FEMA IS THE FLOW 2D MODEL AND THAT'S WHY WE TOOK THE MANUAL IN THAT DIRECTION.
THE OTHER REASON IS, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN THIS IN THE LAST COUPLE SUBMITTALS OF CLOSURES TO FEMA, IS ANYONE THAT HAS CHOSEN TO INCLUDE THE HEC-RAS MODEL IS ACTUALLY GETTING PUSHBACK FROM FEMA.
THE MOST RECENT ONE IS OUR MARANA SOUTH DEVELOPMENT.
ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT CAME FROM FEMA WAS TO INCLUDE EITHER A FLOW 2D MODEL, AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WHEN WE GO TO FEMA IS AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON BY INTRODUCING HEC-RAS.
YOU'RE INTRODUCING THE ORANGE.
WELL, YES, IT IS A TOOL THAT IS USED.
WHEN WE DID THE MODELING FLOW, 2D WAS THE OPTIMUM APPROACH TO TAKE, AND THAT WAS THE POSITION THAT THE TOWN TOOK AND SO THAT WE CAN HAVE CONSISTENCY WHEN WE SUBMIT TO FEMA. THAT'S WHY WE'RE REQUIRING THE FLOW 2D, BECAUSE WE WANT THOSE MODELS TO MATCH.
SO THAT WHEN WE PUT THESE DEVELOPMENTS IN FRONT OF FEMA, THEY CAN COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES.
SO DID YOU BRING UP SOMETHING ON THE NON REGIONAL HYDRAULIC DATA.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING HERE.
THE NON REGIONAL FLOW IS THE ACTUAL STORM.
IT ACTUALLY HEADS IN A SOUTHERN DIRECTION, CROSSING TANGERINE WHERE IT HITS THE UPR.
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THE ELEVATED ROADWAY FOR THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD ACTUALLY CAUSES IT TO BACK UP AND THEN AS IT BACKS UP, IT STARTS TO MOVE IN A NORTHERLY DIRECTION THROUGH THE TANGERINE CHANNEL THAT WE'RE CONSTRUCTING NOW, AND ALONG THAT UPR WHERE IT HITS THE ESTABLISHED CROSSINGS.THEN IT CROSSES THROUGH THOSE BOXES WHERE IT ENTERS INTO MARANA TO THE EAST WEST SIDE OF I-10 AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THAT TORTOLITA FLOODWATER STARTS TO SPREAD ACROSS THERE. SO THE USE OF THE NON-REGIONAL IS BASICALLY CAPTURING THOSE FLOWS AND THAT STORM.
SO TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE ANALYZE THOSE FLOODPLAINS ON THE WEST SIDE OF I-10, WE HAVE THAT ACCURATE INFORMATION AND THAT WHEN WE DESIGN THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE ARE KEEPING ALL OF THE RESIDENTS REASONABLY SAFE FROM FLOODING.
ARE YOU GOOD? COUNCILMEMBER CAVANAUGH.
ANYBODY ELSE MAKE A MOTION? ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.
MAYOR. I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 .025.
AND THE RESOLUTION. AND THE RESOLUTION.
SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR, EXCUSE ME, FOR 2024 .025 AND RESOLUTION 2024-103.
WE DON'T HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, RIGHT? OUTSTANDING. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. WE ARE ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.