[ MARANA PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOTICE AND AGENDA 11555 W. Civic Center Drive, Marana, Arizona 85653 Council Chambers, June 25, 2025, at or after 6:00 PM Thomas Schnee, Chairman Ronald Hill, Vice Chair David Bowen, Commissioner John Flint, Commissioner John McIntyre, Commissioner Joseph Parsons, Commissioner Sharon Tyson, Commissioner Pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the Marana Planning Commission and to the general public that the Planning Commission will hold a meeting open to the public on June 25, 2025, at or after 6:00 PM located in the Council Chambers of the Marana Municipal Complex, 11555 W. Civic Center Drive, Marana, Arizona. ACTION MAY BE TAKEN BY THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEM LISTED ON THIS AGENDA. Revisions to the agenda can occur up to 24 hours prior to the meeting. Revisions to the agenda appear in italics. Marana Planning Commission Welcome to this public meeting of the Marana Planning Commission. The Commission consists of seven citizens who are appointed by the Town Council and serve without pay. For the most part, the Commission acts in an advisory capacity to the Town Council on matters related to land use planning and zoning. Citizens are encouraged to address the Commission with their concerns on agenda items during the public testimony portions of the meeting, or other issues at the Call to the Public. Meeting Times Regular Commission meetings are usually held on the last Wednesday of each month at 6:00 PM at the Marana Municipal Complex, although the date or time may change and additional meetings may be called at other times and/or places. Speaking at Meetings If you are interested in speaking to the Commission during the Call to the Public or Public Hearings, you must fill out a speaker card (located inside the Council Chambers) and deliver it to the Planning Commission Secretary prior to the convening of the meeting. All persons attending the Commission meeting, whether speaking to the Commission or not, are expected to observe the Commission rules, as well as the rules of politeness, propriety, decorum and good conduct. Any person interfering with the meeting in any way, or acting rudely or loudly will be removed from the meeting and will not be allowed to return. Accessibility To better serve the citizens of Marana and others attending our meetings, the Council Chambers are wheelchair and handicapped accessible. Persons with a disability may request a reasonable accommodation, such as a sign language interpreter, by contacting the Town Clerk at (520) 382-1999. Requests should be made as early as possible to arrange the accommodation. Agendas Copies of the Agenda are available the day of the meeting inside the Council Chambers or online at www.maranaaz.gov. This Notice and Agenda posted no later than 24 hours prior to the meeting, at the Marana Municipal Complex, 11555 W. Civic Center Drive, the Marana Operations Center, 5100 W. Ina Road, and at www.maranaaz.gov. Public Comments Please submit public comments to tbyler@maranaaz.gov. Any submitted comments from the public will be provided to the Commission and included within the Commission packet file and a summary of the comments submitted will be reflected in the official Commission meeting minutes of that meeting. All emailed comments must be received by the Town no later than 12:00 p.m. (noon) on the day of the meeting to be included. ]
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PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
SOON TO BE RETIRED MRS. BYLER , CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YOU MAY. CHAIRMAN SCHNEE, PRESENT. VICE CHAIR HILL.
COMMISSIONER BOWEN. COMMISSIONER FLINT, PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER MCINTYRE, PRESENT. COMMISSIONER PARSONS, HERE.
COMMISSIONER TYSON. WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.
THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE CALL TO THE PUBLIC.
GOING ONCE. OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE IT. MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MR. ANGELL, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? OH, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'VE KIND OF BEAT ME TO THIS ONE.
AS YOU SAID THIS EVENING IS MISS BYLER'S LAST MEETING WITH US AS THE SECRETARY FOR THE BOARD.
SHE HAS BEEN WITH THE TOWN FOR 20 YEARS. AND DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB.
BUT YOU GUYS ALL KNOW HER AS THE ONE THAT KEEPS US ORGANIZED AND KEEPS US TOGETHER.
SO WE JUST WANT TO EXTEND OUR CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU TO TERRI FOR EVERYTHING THAT SHE'S DONE.
AND WE WISH HER WELL. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? NO. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING AS THE SECRETARY.
OKAY. AND DON'T BE A STRANGER. OH, I WON'T, I WON'T YOU'LL SEE ME.
PLEASE FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO DO. OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MAY 28TH MEETING MINUTES? SO MOVED. AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. COMMISSION ACTION. YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE MR. VARNEY. NO. GO AHEAD. IF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THIS ONE OR.
OKAY. HERITAGE PARK SHOPS PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM.
CHAIRMAN SCHNEE, COMMISSIONERS YOU'RE CORRECT I'M NOT, MR. VARNEY. MR. VARNEY UNEXPECTEDLY, WASN'T FEELING WELL THIS AFTERNOON, SO I TOLD HIM I WOULD GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF THIS.
I THINK THIS ITEM IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT NONETHELESS, LET'S GO THROUGH THE THE THE REQUEST, THE APPLICATION HERE. THIS IS A PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM FOR THE HERITAGE PARK SHOPS.
THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS THE 14 ACRE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S 12 LOTS THAT IS IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE FRY'S GROCERY CENTER THAT JUST RECENTLY OPENED UP AND HAS CONTINUED TO DEVELOP THROUGHOUT THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED VILLAGE COMMERCIAL.
AND AS FAR AS THE PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM THAT IS GOVERNED UNDER SECTIONS 17- 10-12 OF THE TOWN CODE WHERE IT REQUIRES NOT ONLY STAFF APPROVAL BUT ALSO PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL.
SO THAT IS WHY THIS APPLICATION IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING? THE BASED UPON THE FRONTAGE FOR THIS AREA, THERE IS JUST OVER 1,600 LINEAR FEET OF FRONTAGE ALONG THE TANGERINE CORRIDOR.
BASED UPON THAT, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED THREE MONUMENT SIGNS.
THE INTENT BEHIND THE PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM IS ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A COHESIVE LOOK TO ALL THE SIGNS, BUT TWO TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS PROPER REPRESENTATION FOR ALL OF THE THE SITES TO HAVE DISPLAYED SIGNAGE ON, ON THE PROPERTY, AND ALSO TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T RUN ON WITH TEN MONUMENT SIGNS RIGHT ON THE FRONTAGE THERE.
SIGNAGE IS ALLOWED WITHOUT A PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM.
BUT LIKE WE'VE SAID, THE PURPOSE BEHIND THE PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM IS TO KIND OF BRING SOME COHESIVENESS TO IT AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH YOU KNOW, ONE TENANT GETS A MONUMENT SIGN AND THE NEXT TWO DON'T.
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THE MAXIMUM BY CODE IS EIGHT FEET IN HEIGHT AND 80FT² PER SIGN.THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 10 FEET AND 100FT² IS ALLOWED TO BE ACHIEVED IF THEY DO EXCEPTIONAL DESIGN, WHICH IS NICER LOOKING MATERIALS, NICER LOOKING DESIGN AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND THEN ONE OF THE THREE SIGNS IS ALLOWED TO GO TO AN EXTRA HEIGHT, WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO GO UP TO 20FT, AND AN ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 150FT². THAT ALLOWS FOR IT TO BE KIND OF THE THE MAIN SIGN FOR THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. HERE'S A COUPLE OF IMAGES OF THE SIGNS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
ONE OF THOSE IS 13.5FT IN HEIGHT AND JUST UNDER 98FT².
THE SECOND SIGN I THINK IT'S THE TOP RIGHT THERE, IS 8 FEET IN HEIGHT AND JUST UNDER 28FT².
AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS 4 FEET IN HEIGHT AND 10 SQUARE FEET 13.5 HEIGHT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM THAT THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR.
WITH THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL THIS EVENING.
OKAY. SO HOW MANY SIGNS ARE WE GOING TO HAVE AT THE 13.5FT LEVEL? CHAIRMAN SCHNEE, THERE WILL BE ONE SIGN THAT IS PROPOSED THAT IS TO BE AT THE 13.5FT.
OKAY. THE OTHER TWO SIGNS WILL BE THOSE THAT ARE AT THE 8 AND THE 4 FEET.
OKAY. AND THAT'S PERMITTED BY CODE THAT ACTUALLY BY CODE, IF APPROVED THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO ALL THREE SIGNS AT THAT 13.5 IF THEY MEET THE EXCEPTIONAL DESIGN STANDARDS.
BUT WHAT THEY ALSO HAVE TO DO IS CONFORM TO THE APPROVED PLAN.
SO THE PLAN THAT IS BEING PRESENTED IS SHOWING A 13.5 AND 8 AND A 4.
THE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GO UP TO 13.5 AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE EXCEPTIONAL DESIGN STANDARDS.
BUT WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING IS THAT ALL THREE OF THE SIGNS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT, WILL MEET THE EXCEPTIONAL DESIGN STANDARDS. OKAY.
I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE RIGHT. OR DO THEY HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE I GO? NO. JASON GOOD EVENING. SO THE THE STANDARD MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR SIGN ABSENT THE EXCEPTIONAL SIGN STANDARD IS 8 FEET.
CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. AND THE EXCEPTIONAL SIGNS STANDARD WHAT IS THE CRITERIA FOR AN EXCEPTIONAL STANDARD? I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO GET INTO DETAIL. I GET NERVOUS WHEN JANE'S OPENING RELAXED.
JANE'S GONNA HELP ME AS WELL. FOR SOME REASON, I THOUGHT IT WAS 10 BY 10.
WELL, THE EXCEPTIONAL DESIGN CRITERIA IT'S BASED UPON THE MATERIALS THAT ARE USED AND ALSO THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THE SIGN ITSELF SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST SLIDING PANELS AND THINGS. AND THAT DETERMINATION FOR MEETING THE EXCEPTIONAL SIGN CRITERIA IS A STAFF DECISION. THAT IS THAT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION.
CORRECT? YEAH I'M LOOKING AT IT RIGHT HERE. OKAY.
DIFFERENT COLORS, MATERIALS, TEXTURES. IT IS GENERAL.
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IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, A 120 YEAR OLD OAK TREE OR SOMETHING THAT'S IN PLACE THAT SHOULDN'T BE MOVED.COMMISSIONER FLINT, NO, THERE IS NO VISUAL IMPEDIMENT THERE.
THE SITE IS PRETTY CLEAR AND ANY VEGETATION THAT EXISTS IS FAIRLY YOUNG AS FAR AS ON THE SITE.
CHAIRMAN SCHNEE AND COMMISSION MEMBER FLINT, THE EXCEPTIONAL DESIGN, IT DOES HAVE SOME PRETTY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS IN THE TOWN CODE. IT REFERS TO A FREESTANDING SIGN WITH AN ARCHITECTURALLY INTERESTING DESIGN THAT COMPLIES WITH THE FOLLOWING: AT LEAST 50% OF ALL SURFACES OF THE SIGN STRUCTURE STRUCTURE SHALL CONSIST OF ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING MATERIALS.
THE AREA OF THE SIGN STRUCTURE MUST EQUAL OR EXCEED THE SIGN AREA FOR EACH SIGN FACE.
IF AT LEAST 50% OF THE SIGN COPY IS MOUNTED INDEPENDENTLY AND IN RELIEF OF THE SIGN FACE OR BACKGROUND AND UTILIZES BACKLIGHTING, THE REQUIRED AREA OF THE SIGN STRUCTURE MAY BE REDUCED BY 50%, SO THERE ARE A FEW THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE MATERIALS ARE SPECIFIED AT LEAST 50% THE LIGHTING AREA OF THE SIGN.
SO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO OBVIOUSLY STAFF WOULD INTERPRET THAT.
BUT THERE'S SOME, SOME PRETTY SPECIFIC GUIDELINES IN THE CODE.
ALL RIGHT. AND THE THE 8 FOOT IS PRETTY WELL STANDARD THROUGHOUT THE TOWN FOR ALL SIGNS AS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT? YES, THAT'S OUR BASE. BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT DO EXCEED THE MONUMENT SIGNS THAT DO EXCEED THE 8 FEET BECAUSE THEY MEET THE EXCEPTIONAL DESIGN CRITERIA.
OKAY. AND LET ME BACK UP THAT MISS [INAUDIBLE] HAD JUST MENTIONED THAT 50% OF THE SIGN AREA MUST BE CERTAIN MATERIALS. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT AGAIN FOR ME? COMMISSIONER SCHNEE, COMMISSIONER FLINT, IT SAYS AT LEAST 50% OF ALL SURFACES OF THE SIGN STRUCTURE SHALL CONSIST OF ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING MATERIALS.
AND THEN THERE'S A LIST OF SIX MATERIALS. BRICK AND DECORATIVE BLOCK, NATURAL OR SIMULATED STONE, DECORATIVE OR TREATED WOOD, A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.
LET ME GO BACK THEN, SO THAT THE THE 50% OF THE SIGN AREA IS THAT THE IN THIS CASE, THE 13.5FT TIMES THE 8 FEET 4 INCHES WOULD BE THE THE SIGN AREA TO GET TO THE 50% OR HOW IS THAT MEASURED OR JASON, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT? AND COMMISSIONER FLINT, IT'S THE OVERALL STRUCTURE IS 50% OKAY.
SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I SEE MAYBE 30% IS STONE.
AND HOW DOES THE REMAINDER QUALIFY THEN. CORRECT.
THESE THESE ARE THE EXHIBITS THAT WERE PROVIDED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION FOR VISUAL PURPOSES.
WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT AS FAR AS TO MEET THE EXCEPTIONAL CRITERIA.
AND MY RATIONALE AND I IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE CHAIRMAN'S, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE THE STAFF AND THE TOWN COUNCIL TOOK GREAT PAINS TO CRAFT THE CODE IN A MANNER THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THEIR VISION AND THE DESIRE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF MARANA.
AND THEY CAME UP WITH THE 8 FEET, WHICH IS FINE.
AND I JUST HAVE A HARD TIME JUSTIFYING MORE THAN THAT ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S NO NATURAL OR PHYSICAL IMPEDIMENT TO VIEWING THE SIGN, AND ALSO THE FACT THAT THE OTHER TWO SIGNS ARE 8 FEET AND 4 FEET, RESPECTIVELY. SO IT'S JUST WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
SO THE EXCEPTIONAL SIGN PROGRAM IS IN THE TOWN CODE, CORRECT? CORRECT. AND SO THEY HAVE GIVEN JUDGMENT TO THIS FORUM TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE A DEVIATION. CORRECT? YES. SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A PRETTY NICE LOOKING SIGN. AND I'M WONDERING IF THEY GO TO 10 FEET BY 10 FEET OR. I'M SORRY. THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS GIVEN US APPROVAL TO
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APPROVE A LARGER SIGN THAT MEETS THE CERTAIN STANDARDS.RIGHT. CORRECT. AND WHAT CODE ALSO SAYS IN THERE AND I SHOULD GO BACK.
THAT THE VERY LAST BULLET ON THIS SLIDE HERE SPELLS OUT THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BE ABLE TO BUILD ONE SIGN THAT GOES UP TO 20FT IN HEIGHT AND 150FT². THEY'RE ONLY ASKING FOR ONE OF THESE SIGNS TO EXCEED THE 8 FEET, SO. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION. BUT THE 13 .5, IF WE APPROVE IT, THERE WOULD BE THREE OF THOSE ALLOWED ON THERE, AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL FOUR 8 FOOT SIGNS. NO, THE THE APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE IS TO ALLOW FOR IT'S ONE 13.5FT SIGN, ONE 8 FOOT SIGN AND ONE 4 FOOT HIGH SIGN.
IT SAYS POTENTIAL THREE. ALL THREE SIGNS MAY BE CONSTRUCTED UP TO 13.5FT IN HEIGHT. BUT THE WAY THE APPLICATION IS BEING REQUESTED IS THAT THEY ONLY WANT THOSE THREE SIGNS AT THE 13.5, THE 8, AND THE 4. THE MASTER SIGN PROGRAM YOU'RE SETTING THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE MONUMENT SIGN, THAT'S IT. BUT WHAT WE'RE READING HERE IS THAT IF WE APPROVE THE 13.5, THERE WOULD BE THREE OF THEM, WHICH IS THE AT THE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AT THE ENTRANCES.
AND THEN THE NEXT SEVERAL SITES THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT FOUR ADDITIONAL SIGNS AT 8 FEET AND THEN ADDITIONAL SIGNS, THE 4 FOOTERS IN FRONT OF THE INDIVIDUAL STORES, THE INDIVIDUAL STORES ARE FINE.
BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE THEN LOOKING AT. OKAY, BUT THERE'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
AND, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I DIDN'T READ AT ALL.
MAYBE IT'S BY MISTAKE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE APPROVE THE 13.5, THEN ALL THREE OF THE THE SIGNS AT THE ENTRANCES WOULD BE 13.5 AND THEN THERE'S FOUR ADDITIONAL SIGNS, YOU KNOW, WHICH AT THE DISCRETION PROBABLY BE THE 8 FOOTERS.
SO NOW WE'VE GOT SEVEN SIGNS THERE. I THINK I'M NOT READING IT THAT WAY.
WHEN I READ THIS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE ARE THREE ENTRANCES ONTO THIS PROPERTY AND THE MAIN ENTRANCE SIGN THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE 13.5FT TALL, AND THEN THE TWO EXTERIOR ENTRANCES ARE 8 FEET IN HEIGHT AND 4 FEET IN HEIGHT, AND WE CAN APPROVE THIS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE MATERIAL I GOT, MAYBE IT'S MY FAULT THAT I DIDN'T TOTALLY READ IT, BUT THEY'RE SAYING IT'S THREE POTENTIAL 13. 5S I AGREE THAT OKAY, YOU HAVE ONE MAIN MAIN ONE.
THAT'S THAT'S NO PROBLEM. BUT THE TWO ADDITIONAL ONES.
YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE IN THERE IT'S, YOU KNOW. YEAH.
GO FOR IT. HELLO. FERNANDO GARNER WITH ASSIGNS STANDING IN FOR MR. MICHAEL AS PRESIDENT. JUST TO BUILD OFF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND THAT POTENTIAL, I THINK, IS JUST PROBABLY JUST AN OVER INTERPRETATION.
IT'S JUST THE MAIN ENTRY SIGN WOULD BE AT THAT HEIGHT.
AND I, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS ARE.
BUT THE MATERIAL THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, IT'S SAYING IS IF WE APPROVE IT, YOU COULD GO TO THREE, 13.5 SIGNS. YEAH. NO, THAT WOULDN'T BE THAT WOULDN'T BE WHAT WE WOULD GO FOR.
ESPECIALLY SINCE THE PLANS THEMSELVES DON'T REALLY CALL FOR IT.
THAT THAT WOULD BE IS, YOU KNOW, WE SUBMIT THIS, YOU APPROVE IT AND THEN AFTERWARDS WE WOULD CHANGE IT AFTER THE FACT TO DO THAT WHICH WE WOULDN'T DO, WE WOULD GO FORWARD WITH WHAT THESE PLANS SAY. WHAT WOULD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION BE TO CLARIFY WHAT THE INTENTIONS ARE?
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SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT AS PART OF THE THE APPROVAL IS TO ALLOW FOR ONE SIGN AT 13.5FT² OR 13.5FT IN HEIGHT, AND A TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 97.8FT², A SECOND SIGN AT 8 FEET IN HEIGHT AND 27.8FT² IN SIGN AREA AND 4 FEET IN HEIGHT AND TEN SQUARE FEET IN SIGN AREA.MR. CHAIRMAN. JASON, WHEN SO NOW YOU WERE SPECIFYING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE SIGN AREA, WHAT YOU KNOW, BASED ON VIEWING THE ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED SIGNS TO ME, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THE MATERIALS THAT MATCH THE ELEVATION OF THE BUILDINGS ARE AT 50%.
SO I DON'T WANT TO BLESS THEM WITH A FIXED AMOUNT OF SIGN AREA IF THAT'S GOING TO BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE MATERIALS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO TO GO WITH THE PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM.
YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING. I GET IT. YOU KNOW THE TWO.
I HAVE TO RUN PARALLEL OR HAVE TO RUN TOGETHER THAT.
WELL, THAT THE CODE DOES SPECIFY THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THOSE SIGNS, RIGHT? SO IF THEY ARE. AND THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANT TO GO ON MAXIMUM HEIGHT.
I'M FINE WITH THAT. THIS IS BASED UPON THE MATERIALS THAT WERE PROVIDED.
SO I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. CORRECT. I UNDERSTAND THE 13.5FT THAT THEY COULD GO, YOU KNOW, UP TO 20FT. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY COMPLY WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE CODE, BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF 50% OF THE SIGN AREA MUST BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE MATERIALS THAT ARE USED ON THE PROJECT, THAT JUST LEAVES 50% FOR THE SIGN AREA AND FOR THE MOST PART IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO.
YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO GET TO IT.
I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO VEST THEM WITH A FIXED SQUARE FOOTAGE OF OF TENANT NAMES AND THEN WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM MEETING THE MATERIALS CRITERIA. OKAY. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IF WE'RE DONE WITH THE DISCUSSION.
CHAIRMAN SCHNEE , COMMISSIONER FLINT TO APPROVE WITH WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT MR. ANGELL MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO. AS LONG AS IT CLARIFIES IT THAT THAT THAT HE DOESN'T END UP, THAT WE DON'T END UP WITH A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE, THE, THE TENANT SPACE AND THE MATERIALS THAT HAS TO BE RECONCILED.
THEY'LL STILL HAVE TO MEET THE EXCEPTIONAL DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.
ALL RIGHT. OKAY, SO AFTER THAT. ALL SIGNS, ALL THREE SIGNS WILL COMPLY WITH THE EXCEPTIONAL SIGN PROGRAM.
THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE AT 13.5FT, ONE AT 8 FEET AND ONE AT 4 FEET.
THAT'S WHAT. OKAY. SO THAT WAS YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.
OKAY. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. CAN I GET A OH, WE DON'T NEED A ROLL CALL.
ALL IN FAVOR? I OPPOSED. OKAY. MOTION PASSES.
THANK YOU. WHAT DO YOU THINK? NO, NO, NO. THAT'S OKAY.
IT'S. NO NO NO NO NO. YOU KNOW ME THAT. OKAY, MR. ANGELL, ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THAT YOU WANT TO BRING UP WITH US TODAY? NO, A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD.
NEXT MONTH. JUST A REMINDER. IT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.
SO AS PART OF THAT WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ELECTIONS FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AS WELL, SO.
AND TO THOSE TRYING TO THINK WHO IS UP. THREE OF YOU WERE JUST UP.
DAVE, SHARON AND RON. EVERYONE THAT'S NOT HERE JUST GOT REAPPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL.
SO SO WE'RE GOOD FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS.
IT'S OKAY. THAT'S IT. NO REASON TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
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MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.