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>> MEETING, EVERYONE. LIKE TO CALL
[ CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]
THE MARANA TOWN COUNCIL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.>> VICE MAYOR ROXANNE ZIEGLER.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PATRICK KAVANAGH.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PATTY CAMERFORD?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER TERRY MURPHY?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JOHN OFFICER.
>> THANK YOU. LETS TO STAND FOR A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOLLOWED BY A SHORT MOMENT OF SILENCE.
BEFORE WE START, I'D LIKE TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT COUNCIL OR VICE MAYOR ZIEGLER IS DOING WELL. SHE'S HOME.
SHE DEBATED ON WHETHER TO COME TONIGHT, BUT DECIDED MAYBE SIT THIS ONE OUT FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND SO, BUT SHE'S DOING WELL.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA. HERE A MOTION.
[ APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
CALL TO THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME,
[ CALL TO THE PUBLIC At this time any member of the public is allowed to address the Town Council on any issue within the jurisdiction of the Town Council, except for items scheduled for a Public Hearing at this meeting. The speaker may have up to three minutes to speak. Any persons wishing to address the Council must complete a speaker card located outside the Council Chambers and deliver it to the Town Clerk prior to the commencement of the meeting. Individuals addressing a meeting at the Call to the Public will not be provided with electronic technology capabilities beyond the existing voice amplification and recording capabilities in the facilities. Pursuant to the Arizona Open Meeting Law, at the conclusion of Call to the Public, individual members of the Council may respond to criticism made by those who have addressed the Council, and may ask staff to review the matter, or may ask that the matter be placed on a future agenda.]
ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS ALLOWED TO ADDRESS THE TOWN COUNCIL ON ANY ISSUE WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, EXCEPT FOR ITEMS SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS MEETING.DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS?
>> THANK YOU. PROCLAMATIONS, PR 1.
[ Recognizing 2025 Fire Prevention Month (Jill McCleary)]
>> PR 1, RECOGNIZING 2005 FIRE PREVENTION MONTH.
[BACKGROUND] PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE 2025 FIRE PREVENTION MONTH.
WHEREAS, THE NORTHWEST FIRE DISTRICT IS COMMITTED TO ENSURING THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF ALL THOSE WHO LIVING IN AND VISITING OUR FIRE DISTRICT.
WHEREAS FIRE IS A SERIOUS PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN BOTH LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY, AND HOMES ARE LOCATIONS WHERE PEOPLE ARE AT GREATEST RISK FROM FIRE.
WHEREAS, MOST OF THE ELECTRONICS USED IN HOMES DAILY, INCLUDING SMARTPHONES, TABLETS, LAPTOPS, POWER TOOLS, EBIKES, ESCOOTERS, AND TOYS ARE POWERED BY LITHIUM ION BATTERIES, WHICH, IF MISUSED, DAMAGED OR IMPROPERLY CHARGED, CAN OVERHEAT, START A FIRE, OR EXPLODE.
WHEREAS THE NATIONAL FIRE PREVENTION ASSOCIATION REPORTS AN INCREASE IN BATTERY RELATED FIRES, UNDERSCORING THE NEED FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION ON THE SAFE USE OF LITHIUM ION BATTERIES, AND WHEREAS NORTHWEST FIRE DISTRICT FIRST RESPONDERS ARE DEDICATED TO REDUCING THE OCCURRENCE OF HOME FIRES AND HOME FIRE INJURIES THROUGH PREVENTION AND PROTECTION EDUCATION.
WHEREAS THE 2025 FIRE PREVENTION WEEK THEME CHARGE INTO FIRE SAFETY, LITHIUM ION BATTERIES IN YOUR HOME SERVES TO REMIND US OF THE IMPORTANCE OF USING, CHARGING, AND RECYCLING LITHIUM ION BATTERIES SAFELY TO REDUCE THE RISK OF FIRES IN HOMES AND COMMUNITIES.
NOW, THEREFORE, I JOHN POST, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF MARANA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 2025 AS FIRE PREVENTION MONTH THROUGHOUT THE TOWN OF MARANA. [BACKGROUND]
>> FAIR AND COUNCIL REPORTS, COUNCIL MEMBER OFFICER.
[ MAYOR AND COUNCIL REPORTS: SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS]
>> YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO REPORT ON THE FALL FESTIVAL.
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IT WAS JUST AMAZING GOING DOWN THERE AND NOT SEEING AS MUCH DUST AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST.BUT JUST THE EXCITEMENT OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE.
I WALKED AROUND FOR TWO HOURS AND JUST SEEING EVERYBODY IS THERE.
I REALLY THANK THE STAFF IN ALL PHASES.
EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY THAT WAS OUT THERE, AND STAFF WAS DOING WHAT THEY DO.
THE THING THAT ALWAYS SURPRISES ME AS IT GETS LATER ON IN THE PROJECTS OR THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, GETS A LITTLE LITERY.
BUT YOU DRIVE BY THERE THE NEXT MORNING.
AND I REALLY COMMEND THOSE THAT CLEAN UP AFTERWARDS AS QUICKLY AS THEY DO AND COME BACK AND FINISH IT UP LATER THAT DAY, BUT IT JUST AMAZING JOB THAT YOU GUYS DID.
>> I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THE SAME THING. IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.
WE HAD 75 MUTTON BUSTERS OR WOOL RIDERS.
THE DUST WAS AMAZING THIS YEAR 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY.
MARANA FFA SHOWED UP TO HELP US OUT.
I HAD 20 VOLUNTEERS FROM THEM, AS WELL AS, LIKE, 16 FROM MARANA SACKMANS 4H.
IT WAS REALLY GOOD TO SEE COMMUNITY SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU TO TOWN OF MARANA AND PARKS AND REC.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I CONCUR TO YOU. GREAT EVENT.
PARKS AND REC, YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB.
WE CAN YOU ENTERTAIN YOUR FAMILY FOR $1 RIDE.
A LOT OF VENDORS OUT, FOOD PEOPLE OUT, PROBABLY COULD HAVE USED MORE, BUT I UNDERSTAND THEY WERE AT TUCSON MET YOURSELF AND OLE VALLEY.
WE WERE SHORTENED VENDORS FOR FOOD, BUT GENERALLY, IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.
AND TERRY, HE DID A GREAT JOB WITH MAYOR.
>> FALL FESTIVAL [OVERLAPPING].
>> FALL FESTIVAL. THINKING FOUNDERS DAY FOR SOME REASON.
ALSO, COUNCIL MEMBER MURPHY AND I WERE SELECTED FOR IMPACT MARANA FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, CLASS 3, AND LAST WEEK.
I KNOW THAT WE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE MARANA UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE TOWN OF MARANA, THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE IN THIS TOWN OR MANY OF THEM SEND THEIR KIDS TO MARANA SCHOOLS.
BUT ONE TAKE HOME MESSAGE I HAD WHERE FROM THAT DAY, WE LEARNED ABOUT READING FROM KINDERGARTEN TO HIGH SCHOOL, GRADS.
BUT ONE THING WAS REMARKABLE IN MARANA, 90% GRADUATION RATE.
WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT TO THE STATE AVERAGE, 70%.
KUDOS TO MARANA SCHOOLS TEACHERS AND STAFF. GREAT JOB.
>> I HAD TO PULL OUT MY CALENDAR TO REMIND ME WHAT I DID.
WE HAD THE AWARD CEREMONY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE SERVED, 05, 10, 15, 25, AND 130.
WE APPRECIATE THE STAFF AND THEIR DEDICATION AND LOYALTY TO US, AND THEY'VE DONE SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB.
MY HATS OFF TO THEM. THEY'VE JUST BEEN WONDERFUL.
THIS MONTH, THEY HAD CONCERTS IN THE COURTYARD.
REALLY FUN BECAUSE PARENTS SHOWED UP WITH THE KIDS, AND EVERYBODY'S ALL DRESSED UP AND ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS HAD BOOTHS FOR THE KIDS TO GO AROUND AND GET CANDY AT, AND SOME PEOPLE WERE VERY ELABORATE, EVEN HAD A HAUNTED HOUSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THEN, EVERYBODY WAS ALL DRESSED UP. IT WAS NICE.
AGAIN, THANKS TO STAFF FOR PARTICIPATING AND DOING ALL THAT.
THERE WAS QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THERE THIS TIME.
THAT'S PROBABLY MORE THAN I'VE EVER SEEN AT ANY OF THE CONCERTS, BUT THEY'RE ALWAYS AWESOME.
THEY ALWAYS HAVE A GREAT BAND CHOICE, AND SO THAT WAS GOOD. LET'S SEE.
I WENT TO HSL'S 50TH ANNIVERSARY PARTY.
WELL, HE SAID IT WAS ACTUALLY LONGER WAS MORE LIKE 55 YEARS, BUT THEY CELEBRATED THEIR 50TH ANNIVERSARY AT EL CONQUISTADOR.
MR. LOPEZ IS JUST SUCH A GENUINE PERSON.
HE'S A NICE PERSON AND REALLY CARES ABOUT COMMUNITY.
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IT WAS NICE TO CELEBRATE THAT WITH HIM.I KNOW THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE.
OF COURSE, THE FESTIVAL. I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY.
THEY DID A GREAT JOB WITH THAT.
THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I GOT, MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT ODDLY ENOUGH, MR. ROSEMA.
[ MANAGER’S REPORT: SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS]
>> MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
COUNCIL TOOK MOST OF MY REPORT.
I WILL ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF COUNCIL MEMBER KAI.
I THOUGHT COUNCIL MEMBER MURPHY DID A WONDERFUL JOB.
I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE MAINTAINED THE LEVEL OF ENTHUSIASM AND KEPT TALKING NONSTOP FOR TWO AND A HALF, THREE HOURS.
BUT THAT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE, AND IT WASN'T AN AMAZING EVENT.
FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UPDATE, WE HAD 46SFRS SO FAR FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER.
LAST YEAR FOR THE TOTAL MONTH.
WE ARE DOING A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT.
I MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE GO OUT TO L RIO PRESERVE.
FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS, THERE WILL BE NO WATER IN THE PRESERVE.
WELL, WE DO SOME MAINTENANCE ON IT, DIG OUT THE MUCK, TAKE OUT ALL THE CAT TOWELS AND REFILL IT.
WE ANTICIPATE SOME TIME BEFORE THANKSGIVING.
WE'LL HAVE IT COMPLETELY UP AND RUNNING AGAIN.
WE'LL ALSO DO SOME AERATION THAT WILL HELP WITH THE CIRCULATION, AND THEREFORE, THE QUALITY OF THE WATER WILL BE MUCH BETTER AND WE LESS BUGS, MOSQUITOES, ETC AS A RESULT OF THAT.
THEN I ALSO WANT TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THE HALLOWEEN TREAT TRAIL BECAUSE I THINK THE STAFF, EACH YEAR, THEY GET MORE AND MORE INTO IT.
IT BECOMES MORE INCREASINGLY COMPETITIVE.
YOU SEE THAT IN THE COSTUMES AND IN THE PROPS AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT TIP OF THE CAT TO OUR STAFF AND HOW MUCH THEY CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY WANT TO MAKE IT A VERY WONDERFUL EVENT.
THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MR. MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[ CONSENT AGENDA The Consent Agenda contains items requiring action by the Council which are generally routine items not requiring Council discussion. A single motion and affirmative vote will approve all items on the Consent Agenda, including any resolutions or ordinances. Prior to a motion to approve the Consent Agenda, any Council member may remove any item from the Consent Agenda and that item will be discussed and voted upon separately.]
MR. TALL, DID YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS YOU WANTED TO MAKE?>> YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR POST.
I JUST WANTED TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD.
WE DID NOTICE A TYPO IN THE POSTED AGENDA.
SPECIFICALLY, THE RESOLUTION ACCOMPANYING ITEM NUMBER C2.
IT SAID THAT THE MAYOR WOULD SIGN THAT AGREEMENT.
IT SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT THE TOWN MANAGER WOULD SIGN THAT AGREEMENT. WE'VE CORRECTED THAT.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS NOTED FOR THE RECORD.
>> THANK YOU, MR. TALL. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA?
>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
[ Relating to Liquor Licenses; recommendation to the Arizona Department of Liquor Licenses and Control regarding an application for a New Liquor License, series #12 Restaurant liquor license submitted by Kong Lin Ni on behalf of Kirin Asian Bistro & Sushi Bar, located at 5884 West Arizona Pavilions Drive, Tucson, Arizona, 85743 (Jill McCleary)]
>> ITEM L1, LIQUOR LICENSES, RELATING TO LIQUOR LICENSES, RECOMMENDATION TO THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF LIQUOR LICENSES AND CONTROL REGARDING THE APPLICATION FOR A NEW LIQUOR LICENSE SERIES NUMBER 12, RESTAURANT LIQUOR LICENSE SUBMITTED BY KONG LN NEE, ON BEHALF OF KOREAN ASIAN BISTRO AND SUSHI BAR, LOCATED AT 58 84 WEST ARIZONA PAVILIONS DRIVE, TUCSON, ARIZONA 85743.
>> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
[ PUBLIC HEARING: Ordinance No. 2025.022; Relating to Development; approving a rezoning of approximately 752.5 acres of land to establish the Cascada II Specific Plan generally located east of Interstate 10 and north of Twin Peaks Road within a portion of Sections 9, 10, 15, and 22, Township 12 South and Range 12 East (Brian D. Varney) Resolution No. 2025-098: Relating to Development; declaring as a public record filed with the Town Clerk the Cascada II Specific Plan adopted by Ordinance No. 2025.022 (Brian D. Varney)]
PUBLIC HEARING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2,025.022, RELATING TO DEVELOPMENT, APPROVING A REZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 752.5 ACRES OF LAND TO ESTABLISH THE CASCADA II SPECIFIC PLAN GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF INTERSTATE 10 AND NORTH OF TWIN PEAKS ROAD, WITHIN A PORTION OF SECTIONS 9, 10, 15 AND 22 TOWNSHIP 12, SOUTH AND RANGE 12 EAST.A RESOLUTION NUMBER 252025-098, RELATING TO DEVELOPMENT, DECLARING AS A PUBLIC RECORD FILLED WITH THE TOWN AT THE CASCADA II SPECIFIC PLAN ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2,025.022.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING THAT IS NOW OPEN. MR. VARNEY.
>> DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT CARD?
>> YEAH. WE'LL DO THAT AFTER. [OVERLAPPING]
>> MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING.
THIS IS A REQUEST SUBMITTED BY LAZARUS AND SILVAN REPRESENTING BP CASCADA PARTNERS, LLC, AND REDPOINT DEVELOPMENT REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE CASCADA II SPECIFIC PLAN.
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THIS SPECIFIC PLAN COMPRISES APPROXIMATELY 752 ACRES.WHAT IT DOES IS IT CONSOLIDATES THE REMAINING AVAILABLE LAND IN CASCADA I, THE ORIGINAL AND CASCADA NORTH AND COMBINES THEM TWO TOGETHER INTO THE CASCADA II SPECIFIC PLAN.
THE SPECIFIC PLAN PROPOSES FOUR DIFFERENT LAND USE CATEGORIES.
THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL, VILLAGE, COMMERCIAL, OPEN SPACE, DRAINAGE AND A DISTRICT PARK.
THE RESIDENTIAL INCLUDES A VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL LAND USES, EVERYTHING FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THE DENSITIES HAVE INCREASED SOMEWHAT.
THE LOW DENSITY COMES IN AT A MINIMUM OF 2,900 SQUARE FEET, AND THE MEDIUM IS 1,500 SQUARE FEET, AND THE HIGH DENSITY IS 700 SQUARE FEET.
TOWN RESIDENTIAL DESIGN STANDARDS WILL BE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CASCADA II.
CASCADA II HAS ITS OWN PROPRIETARY DESIGN STANDARDS, SO WE COMBINE THE TWO TOGETHER.
STAFF IS VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE ARRANGEMENT.
THE VILLAGE CENTER LAND USE PLAN ALLOWS ALL THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CATEGORY, AS WELL AS MINIMUM OF 100 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL LAND USE, AND IT ALSO ALLOWS ALL THE USES THAT THE TOWN'S TYPICAL VILLAGE COMMERCIAL ZONING WILL ALLOW.
THERE IS SOME LIGHT GENERAL MANUFACTURING ALLOWED AS WELL.
SOME OF THE MORE INTENSIVE USES THAT COULD BE PROPOSED WITHIN THE PLAN WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE TOWNS STANDARDS WITHIN OUR TOWN CODE.
SOME OF THOSE MIGHT BE OUR WIRELESS COMMUNICATION FACILITIES, MAYBE AN ENERGY STORAGE FACILITY, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, SOMETHING THAT THE TOWNS CODE ALREADY HAS STANDARDS FOR.
THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS COULD COME INTO PLAY, TOO, DEPENDING ON THE USE.
THE TOWN'S COMMERCIAL DESIGN STANDARDS WILL BE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH CASCADA II PROPRIETARY STANDARDS, AND AGAIN, STAFF IS HAPPY WITH THE WAY THOSE STANDARDS ARE LAID OUT.
THE ACCESS IS PROVIDED AT TWO LOCATIONS OFF OF TWIN PEAKS BOULEVARD.
CASCADA BOULEVARD IS GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN A 134 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
IT WILL INCLUDE INITIALLY TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC.
IT WILL BE EXPANDED TO FOUR LANES AS THE DEVELOPMENT EVOLVES.
>> IT WILL INCLUDE A SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE, SHARED USE PATH, ASPHALT PATH ON THE OTHER AT A MINIMUM WIDTH OF 12 FEET.
INCIDENTALLY, THE SHARED USE PATH WILL BE PROPOSED ALONG ESCOTA BOULEVARD, BUT ALSO ALONG THE FUTURE LAMBERT LANE AS WELL UP IN THE NORTHERN PHASES.
COMMUNAL RIAL IS THE SECOND ACCESS OFF OF TWIN PEAKS ROAD.
IT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AS A TWO LANE ROAD WITH THE CENTER TURN LANE.
THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS RECENTLY ACCEPTED FOR THIS PLAN.
HOWEVER, IT ONLY COVERS THE FIRST TWO PHASES.
THOSE PHASES THE FIRST PHASE CONSISTS OF BLOCK 11, THE LITTLE TRIANGLE DOWN HERE, BLOCKS ONE, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR.
PHASE 2 WILL BE FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN, AND PHASE THREE AND FOUR WILL BE BLOCKS EIGHT, NINE AND 10.
THE TIA ONLY COVERS THE FIRST TWO PHASES AT THIS POINT, WHEN THEY GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY WANT TO EXPAND INTO THE THIRD AND FOURTH PHASE, WE'LL NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, AND LAMBERT LANE WILL BE EVALUATED FURTHER AT THAT TIME, AND WE'LL NAIL DOWN THE CROSS SECTION THAT'S MOST APPROPRIATE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THIS EXHIBIT SHOWS HOW THE DRAINAGE WILL BE HANDLED ACROSS THE CASCADA PROJECT.
I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING THE PROJECT BOUNDARY ON HERE, BUT JUST FOR POINT OF REFERENCE, THE NORTH LEAVE SUBSTATION IS RIGHT HERE, AND THE INTERCHANGE OF COURSE IS RIGHT DOWN HERE.
CESCATA TWO WILL FILL UP ALL OF THIS AREA IN HERE EAST OF THE INTERSTATE.
WHAT THIS SHOWS IS THAT THERE ARE FOUR DRAINAGE CHANNELS THAT YOU SEE HERE, WHERE THE CURSORS, ONE, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR.
THOSE FOUR DRAINAGE CHANNELS WILL LEAD INTO BASINS THAT WILL CAPTURE MOST OF THE WATER.
THERE WILL BE REAR STRUCTURES CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THOSE BASINS THAT WILL ALLOW THE WATER TO BLEED OUT OVER THE TOP OF THE BASIN.
IT WILL MOVE ITS WAY WESTWARD, SOUTHWESTWARD AND KIND OF PARALLEL THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY AND DROP INTO THE NEWREST CULVERT.
THERE ARE FOUR CULVERTS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S THE CONCRETE CULVERT THAT WE ALL SEE FROM THE INTERCHANGE HERE AND THEN THERE'S THREE ADDITIONAL CULVERTS.
THESE CULVERTS WILL CARRY THE WATER UNDER THE RAILROAD, AS WELL AS UNDER I TEN, AND THERE WILL BE A DIRECT DUMP INTO THE SANTA CRUZ RIVER.
THERE ARE PREVIOUS AGREEMENTS WITH THE TOWN THAT REQUIRE BECAUSE THIS IS IN A CRITICAL BASE AND THE TOWN HAS ASKED THAT, WE'VE NEGOTIATED A 15% REDUCTION OF THE OFFSITE FLOWS, SO THE OFF SITE OR THE POST DEVELOPMENT HYDROLOGY WILL BE MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY OUT THERE NOW.
THE OPEN SPACE RECREATION AND TRAILS COMPONENT OF THE PLAN WILL CONSIST OF TRAILS ALONG THE DRAINAGE CORRIDORS THAT I DESCRIBED EARLIER, THESE TRAIL, THIS TRAIL SYSTEM WILL BE CONSTRUCTED OF ASPHALT PATHS.
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SO THERE'S SOME DURABILITY THERE.THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DESTROYED BY WEATHER AND THE ELEMENTS.
THEY WILL ALLOW THE PEDESTRIANS, THE RESIDENTS OF THESE FUTURE COMMUNITIES TO ACCESS THE LARGER PEDESTRIAN NETWORK THAT THE TOWN HAS BY BRINGING THEM DOWN AN ACTUAL AN ASPHALT PATH.
THE AMENITY, THE PROJECT WILL ALSO INCLUDE AMENITY CENTERS AND FACILITIES.
WE'RE WORKING ON AN AMENITY CENTER RIGHT NOW, AND THE PROJECT THAT DR HORTON IS PLATTING IN BLOCKS THREE AND FOUR, OR BLOCK FOUR RATHER.
THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE 19 ACRES, ROUGHLY 19 ACRES OF NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS.
THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS WILL BE DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.
MOST OF THOSE LOCATIONS ARE SHOWN HERE BY THE WHITE ASTERISKS, AND THE TOWN, OF COURSE, WILL DEVELOP ITS DISTRICT PARK IN THE SOUTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE, THE WESTERN PORTION IN THE SOUTHWEST.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS REQUEST ON AUGUST 27, AND THEY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY 6-0, TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE TOWN COUNCIL.
OF COURSE, THIS IS A DISCRETIONARY ITEM FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.
BUT SHOULD THE COUNCIL CONSIDER TO APPROVE THE ITEM, WE DO RECOMMEND THAT IT IS BASED UPON THE RECOMMENDED FINDINGS IN MY STAFF REPORT, AS WELL AS THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE.
AS A SUGGESTED MOTION, I WOULD USE THE MOTION THAT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, NOT THE MOTION I HAVE HERE IN THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE THIS ONE IS NOT COMPLETE.
THAT DOES CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS AT THIS POINT.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT AS WELL AND IS PREPARED TO GIVE A PRESENTATION.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. COUNCIL MEMBER KAI.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. BRIAN, CAN WE GO BACK TO PAGE 7? IN YOUR PRESENTATION.
YOU HAVE THE DRAINAGE WAY NORTHWEST DRAINAGE WAYS IN GREEN.
HOWEVER, THROUGH THE STATE LAND TRUST AREA, THERE ISN'T ANY THAT SHOWS THERE'S GOING TO BE A DRAINAGE THERE AT ALL, OTHER THAN THE BIG JUNGLE THAT, YOU KNOW, WATER WILL HAVE TO GET THROUGH.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT'S MAINTAINED THE I BELIEVE THERE'S A DRAINAGE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STATE TRUST LAND, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
>> I THINK IT'S A LITTLE FURTHER UP.
>> THAT ONE THERE, I THINK IS THE STRAIGHT STATE TRUST LINE.
IT JUST SEEMED LIKE THAT IT SHOULD BE MAINTAINED THE CHANNEL ALL THE WAY IN A NORTHWESTERLY DIRECTION.
>> I'M SURE IT WE'LL MAINTAIN OR IT'LL BE MAINTAINED.
>> MY OTHER QUESTIONS ARE THE TRAILS AND EVERYTHING.
WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY WILL THAT BE FOR MAINTENANCE OF THOSE TRAILS?
>> MAINTENANCE OF THE TRAILS, THE ASPHALT TRAILS, ASPHALT TRAILS.
THOSE WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING?
>> THAT'S THE YELLOW ONE OR THE ORANGE ONE?
>> WELL, THE ORANGE ONES ARE IN THE TOWN'S RIGHT OF WAY.
THOSE WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE TOWN.
>> WELL, THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE TOWN?
>> THE ONES THAT ARE IN ORANGE ARE WITHIN THE TOWN'S RIGHT OF WAY, AND THE CROSS SECTION SECTION FOR THE STREET CLEARLY SHOWS THEM IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY, THEY WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE TOWN.
THE YELLOW TRAILS, THE ONES THAT PARALLEL THE DRAINAGE WAYS, THESE ARE LOCATED IN COMMON AREAS, SO THEY WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.
>> YES. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. BARN?
THERE'S THAT PASCUA YAKI TRIBAL LITTLE AREA THERE.
WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT? HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE INCORPORATED IN THE MASTER PLAN?
>> SURE. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER KAVANAGH.
>> IT'S A CEMETERY, AND IT IS GOING TO BE PRESERVED.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING FENCING AROUND IT.
ORNAMENTAL FENCING TO PRESERVE IT IN ITS CURRENT STATE.
>> THANK YOU. WILL THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? MAYOR SILVAN.
>> MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU.
CARRIE SILVAN WITH LAZARUS AND SILVAN.
I WANT TO INTRODUCE A FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE.
I'M GOING TO START OUT BY SAYING, I'M GOING TO TRY AND BE BRIEF, BUT IT'S ALL RELATIVE.
SO IT'S ME BEING BRIEF. TAKE THAT FOR WHAT'S.
>> I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT'S WORTH.
>> I'M NOT SURE EITHER HOW IT GOES.
>> YES, WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.
>> SO I WANT TO INTRODUCE SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE.
MANY OF THEM YOUD KNOW FROM BORN COMPANIES DON BORN, BRIGG STEVENS, MATT DICKEY, AND ALEX JAMES.
THEN ROBIN LARGE IS ALSO HERE FROM MY OFFICE.
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I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE MET THEM.>> YOU'RE WELL COVERED. IS THAT WHAT YOU?
>> I'M WELL COVERED, AND I WILL GET A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GRIEF IF I DON'T ACTUALLY KEEP THIS FREE.
THEY WILL ALL GIVE IT TO ME, I'M SURE.
STAFF DID A REALLY GREAT JOB, SO I'M GOING TO TRY AND HIGHLIGHT JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THINK ARE HELPFUL TO HIGHLIGHT.
THEN I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS NOW, OR AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
BRIAN ALREADY POINTED OUT CASCADA NORTH AND KEKATA SPECIFIC PLAN, THE ORIGINAL SPECIFIC PLAN, THEY'RE HERE IN ORANGE AND BLUE.
THE BLUE IS WHAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2006, THE ORANGE IN 2011, A TOTAL OF ABOUT 1,500 ACRES.
THE REASON I WANTED TO SHOW THIS IS BECAUSE A LOT OF WORK WAS DONE IN 2006, IN 2011 TO BOTH ESTABLISH THE DEVELOPABLE AREA OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN TO GO AHEAD AND DEDICATE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF, PROPERTY TO PIMA COUNTY FOR THE WILDLIFE MOVEMENT, AS WELL AS TO THE TOWN OF MARANA FOR THE PARKS, WHICH ARE ALSO STILL INCORPORATED INTO THE PROJECT.
THIS ACTUAL SPECIFIC PLAN, AND BRIAN ALLUDED TO THIS, ONLY COVERS THE DEVELOPABLE AREA.
THE IDEA HERE IS BORN COMPANIES ARE REALLY BP CASCADA PARTNERS, ARE REALLY EXCITED TO BE BRINGING FORWARD THIS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, REALLY THE NEW WAY EVERYBODY IS DOING MIXED USE, WHICH IS COMBINING USES.
UNLIKE WHEN WE START FROM SCRATCH WITH A SPECIFIC PLAN, WHERE WE'RE DEALING WITH DEVELOPABLE AREA AS WELL AS OPEN SPACE AND WILDLIFE MOVEMENT.
ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.
WHAT WE DID WAS WE WENT INTO THIS 752 ACRES, WORKED WITH STAFF AND FIGURED OUT HOW TO DEVELOP THE DEVELOPABLE.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS REMAINS THE SAME, OBVIOUSLY.
THE PROPERTY, 352 ACRES, DEDICATED TO PIMA COUNTY, AS WELL AS THE PARKS.
THEN THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE LEFT OUT OF THE 752 ACRES ARE EITHER AREAS THAT WERE ALREADY DEVELOPED OR ARE OWNED BY OTHER FOLKS.
I HATE WHEN I CAN.YOU DON'T GIVE A LAWYER A COMPUTER.
SORRY. STAFF ALREADY DID A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING THE LAND USE.
WE HAVE FOUR CATEGORIES, THE RESIDENTIAL, THE VILLAGE CENTER, THE OPEN SPACE, AND THE FUTURE DISTRICT PARK.
WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE TOWN ON THE DISTRICT PARK.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL AND BRINGING FORWARD SOME DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL, OPPORTUNITIES IN THE TOWN OF MORANA.
I KNOW WE'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WE'RE READY TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE 50 SHADES OF BROWN.
PART OF OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES ARE TO GET US AWAY FROM THAT AND LOOK AT TOWN HOMES AND SOME OTHER LIVING KIND OF EXPERIENCES.
SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS SLIDE.
IT'S BOTH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME TOWN HOME, AND OTHER TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BRING FORWARD.
A LOT OF THOSE ARE PICTURES OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT BORN HAS DONE IN OTHER PLACES IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
STAFF DID A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING THE VILLAGE CENTER USES.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS LOCK ON THIS ONE.
THAT DEVELOPMENT AREA FOUR THAT YOU CAN SEE, HOW IT SHADES FROM THE RUST COLOR RESIDENTIAL TO THE BLUE VILLAGE CENTER.
THAT WAS IN LARGE PART TO CREATE A BUFFER TO THE NEIGHBORS TO OUR WEST SO THAT IT'S DEFINITELY RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT TO THEM, AND THAT WAS A POSITIVE COMMENT THAT THEY MADE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT I'LL EXPLAIN IN JUST A MINUTE.
THIS REALLY, AGAIN, I THINK, STAFF ANSWERED ALL OF THE QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL MEMBER KAI, THE ORANGE IS PART OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE TOWN.
WE WILL BE MAINTAINING THE STUFF ADJACENT TO THE DRAINAGE WAYS.OUR GOAL HERE IS TO REALLY ENCOURAGE THAT WILDLIFE MOVEMENT UP ON THE NORTH, AND THE DRAINAGE WAYS ARE GOING TO BE HANDLING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WATER AS THEY COME DOWN.
THEN MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER KAI, JUST TO ANSWER THE ONE QUESTION ABOUT I THINK WHAT YOU WERE ASKING WAS THIS DRAINAGE WAY THAT LOOKS LIKE IT DEAD ENDS AND MIGHT JUST SPILL EVERYTHING OUT ONTO STATE LAND.
>> MY CONCERN IS THAT THE CONNECTIVITY NORTHWEST FLOW OF THE WATER ALONGSIDE THE RAILROAD TRACKS THAT IT SHOWS THE TOWN OF MORANA HAS THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE, ON THE NORTH SIDE.
IN THE MIDOW, IT'S JUST LIKE NO MAN'S LAND THAT NO ONE'S GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT.
I WOULD BE A BIG JUNGLE, BASICALLY.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF PROVISION IN THERE TO KEEP
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THAT NORTHWESTERLY FLOW OF WATER ALONGSIDE THE RAILROAD TRACKS THAT DO NOT GO UNDERNEATH FREEWAY.>> I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE STATE LAND.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
>> DIFFICULT I CAN UNDERSTAND.
YEAH. WE DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH IT.
>> BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS AS TO THE FLOWS FROM THIS PROPERTY, THAT IT WILL BE GOING TO EITHER OF THOSE TWO BASINS, WHICH ARE ALSO THE PARKS AND WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF AS IT FLOWS FROM OUR PROPERTY.
>> YOUR QUESTION ABOUT STATE LAND IS A LEGITIMATE QUESTION THAT I CAN SER.
>> STATED WOULD BE A BASIN, TOO IT'S ALL FLOWS THAT WAY.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE THERE'S A WATER FLOW THROUGH THERE.
>> STAFF DID A GREAT JOB OF TALKING ABOUT THE PARKS, THE 19 ACRES OF PARKS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN HERE.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT STILL HAVE.
THE LAST SLIDE FOR ME, I WANT TO TOUCH ON THE PUBLIC OUTREACH.
WE HAD OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON JULY 29.
WE HAD ABOUT TEN FOLKS COME, AND THEY WERE ALL FROM THAT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST.
THE QUESTIONS WERE THINGS LIKE, ARE YOU GOING TO DRAW DOWN OUR WELLS? THEY WERE HAPPY TO HEAR, WE'LL BE ON TOWN OF MORANA WATER? HOW WE'RE HANDLING THE DRAINAGE AND FLOODING.
A LOT OF THEM WERE HERE, DURING THAT FLOOD WHEN THE TRAIN WAS DERAILED, AND SO THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE ALL THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF.
THEY, AS I SAID, COMPLIMENTED THE ADJACENCY OF RESIDENTIAL TO THEM RATHER THAN THE VILLAGE CENTER, DIRECTLY ADJACENT, THE TIMING OF CONSTRUCTION.
THEN, OF COURSE, THE QUESTION EVERYBODY HAS, WHAT DO YOU BRING IN? INTO THE VILLAGE CENTER, WHO'S INTERESTED.
WE WERE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT WE STILL HAVE SOME TIME BEFORE WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING VERTICAL.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GROUNDWORK TO DO.
I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE KATE FROM THE COALITION CALLED LAST WEEK.
WE ENJOY A GOOD RELATIONSHIPND SHE HAS, AND I KNOW SHE'S GOT THE LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED AS WELL, AND WE ARE HAPPY TO CONTINUE HAVING ONGOING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COALITION.
AS WE DISCUSSED WITH HER, THAT NORTHERN BOUNDARY REALLY WAS AT THE TIME, NEITHER OF US WERE PART OF THOSE ORIGINAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE EXISTING LAND OWNER, HAVING TO DO WITH WHERE THAT BOUNDARY WAS SET.
BUT THAT WAS CLEARLY DELINEATED AS THE BOUNDARY FOR THE WILDLIFE CORRIDOR, AND THEN FOR DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR.
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE NECESSARILY APPROPRIATE FOR CONDITIONS FOR THE SPECIFIC PLAN, BUT WE'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT, AND WE WE WILL CONTINUE.
THE SECOND BULLET IS REALLY FOR US.
I THINK THE FIRST BULLET WAS FOR THE TOWN OF MARANA, AND WE WILL CONTINUE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
WITH THAT, THAT WAS PRETTY BRIEF.
YOU DID GOOD. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS SILVA?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. THANKS FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THE COALITION FOR SONORAN DESERT PROTECTION LETTER.
I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED WHEN I GOT THIS LETTER BECAUSE WHEN I SAT IN THE MEETINGS WITH THE DEVELOPERS, YOU WERE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT KEEPING THAT OPEN SPACE AVAILABLE.
THE DEVELOPERS WERE NOT DEVELOPING IN THAT AREA.
BUT KATE SAYS WHAT IS KATE FIELD? YOU'RE GETTING A LITTLE TOO CLOSE.
>> MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER, KAVANAGH, I AM FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT THE CARD THAT YOUR CLERK HAS IS KATE.
I KNOW SHE CAN SPEAK FOR HERSELF.
THERE WAS A WILDLIFE CORRIDOR DESIGNATED AND SHE DID ATTACH A MAP AND IT IS AND IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
IT SHOWS THIS WHOLE GENERAL AREA.
IT IS CORRECT THAT THERE'S A PORTION OF THE DEVELOPABLE AREA THAT'S IN THAT BUBBLE OF THE WILDLIFE CORRIDOR.
BUT AGAIN, THOSE DISCUSSIONS OCCURRED IN 2006, MAINLY IN 2011 WHEN CASCADA NORTH CAME IN.
THAT'S WHERE A NEGOTIATION WAS HAD AS TO WHAT PROPERTY SHOULD BE DEDICATED TO PIMA COUNTY, WHERE THAT WILDLIFE GOES AND WHERE THE EDGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE.
I THINK AGAIN, I'LL LET KATE SPEAK FOR HERSELF BECAUSE.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MAYOR, KARI.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. KARI, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THE LAMBERT LANE ALIGNMENT EASTBOUND? IT SHOWS IT STOPS AT THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY.
FUTURE PLANS ARE TO GET IT WORKED TO TWIN PEAKS ROAD, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS THERE?
>> MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER, KARI, I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS MORE OF A TOWN QUESTION, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY AND ANSWER IT, WHICH IS I DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S INTENDED TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE EAST TO CONNECT TO TWIN PEAKS.
I THINK THAT'S IN OUR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
BASTA IS GOING TO COME, CORRECT ME.
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>> MAYOR POST. COUNCIL MEMBER KAI, YES, KARI WAS CORRECT.
IN THE FUTURE, LAMBERT LANE WILL EXTEND TO THE EAST AND EVENTUALLY WE CONNECT TO TWIN PEAKS.
>> AS IT STANDS NOW, THAT WILL BE A CUL-DE-SAC. AS THEY'RE DEVELOPING?
>> ACTUALLY, IS THERE MAYOR POST, COUNCIL MEMBER KAVANAGH.
AS THEY'RE DEVELOPING, AS YOU RECALL, BRIAN HAD MENTIONED THERE'S THREE PHASES, WELL, THERE'S FOUR PHASES, BUT IN REGARDS TO THE TIA THAT WAS PROVIDED, THAT WAS BROKEN INTO THREE PHASES.
THE FIRST TWO PHASES ARE REALLY TO THE SOUTH OF LAMBERT LANE AND DON'T NECESSITATE THE USE FOR THAT ROADWAY AT THIS POINT.
THE THIRD AND FOURTH PHASES ARE WHEN THAT WOULD ACTUALLY COME INTO PLAY.
THAT'S WHY AT THAT POINT, THERE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ANOTHER ASSESSMENT IN REGARDS TO THE TRAFFIC TO SEE WHAT THE NEEDS ARE AT THAT TIME.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I'M KATE HUTTON, WITH THE COALITION FOR SONORAN DESERT PROTECTION.
I AM THEIR CO EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
KARI IS RIGHT TO NOTE THAT SIGNIFICANT OPEN SPACE HAS BEEN SET ASIDE AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
WE WORKED ON THE ORIGINAL CASCADA AND CASCADA NORTH PLANS SOME TIME AGO, WE ARE FEELING GRATEFUL TO COMMENT ON THIS AT THIS LATE STAGE.
WE'RE VERY SORRY IT'S AT THIS LATE STAGE, BUT WE ARE HERE TO ASK FOR WHAT WE HOPE ARE TWO SIMPLE CONDITIONS, WHICH IS THAT WE CAN WORK WITH YOU AS THE TOWN DEVELOPS THE TOWN OF MARANA PROPERTY, WHICH IS THAT AREA YOU SEE ON THE MAP THERE.
THAT BORDERS I TEN TO ENSURE THAT IT DOESN'T UNNECESSARILY IMPEDE THAT WILDLIFE QUARTER THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN WORKING SO HARD TO PROTECT.
THEN THE SECOND ASK IS THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AS MORE SPECIFIC DETAIL DEVELOPMENT PLANS FORM, PARTS OF PHASE 3 AND 4, WE UNDERSTAND FOR THOSE PROPERTIES, 8, 9 AND 10 ON THAT MAP THAT WE SEE HERE.
I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS WILDLIFE CORRIDOR.
IT'S ONE OF SIX HERE IN THE REGION THAT ARE CONSIDERED CRITICAL.
YOU OBVIOUSLY VERY MUCH VALUE THE TORTOLITA PRESERVE, WHICH IS TO THE NORTHEAST OF THIS WILDLIFE CORRIDOR, DIRECTLY ACROSS.
FROM MY 10 WE HAVE A EL RIO PRESERVE, WHICH IS OF A GREAT BENEFIT TO THIS WILDLIFE CORRIDOR DIRECTLY ACROSS I 10 FROM THAT NORTHERN PORTION OF THE 2B PARK AREA IS A NEW WILDLIFE RAMP THAT HELPS ANIMALS MOVE IN AND OUT OF THE SANTA CRUZ RIVER, AND ALSO TWO CROSSINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT BY PIMA COUNTY TO ALLOW ANIMALS MOVE OVER THE CMID IRRIGATION CHANNEL.
THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF LAND THAT'S BEEN ACQUIRED VERY STRATEGICALLY, INCLUDING THIS LAND THAT PIMA COUNTY IS VERY HAPPY TO HAVE NOW.
THAT IS OUR ASK, TWO SPECIFIC THINGS WE'D LOVE TO SEE.
WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO DISCUSS THOSE FURTHER AND WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL TO LAZARUS AND SILVAN FOR DISCUSSING THEM WITH US AS WELL. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, THIS PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT? SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE.
I DECLARE THIS PUBLIC MEETING OR PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER, KAY.
>> THANK YOU MYRA. I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025.022, APPROVING THE PROPOSED REZONING AND ESTABLISHING THE CASCADA 2 SPECIFIC PLAN, SUBJECT TO THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-098, DECLARING AS A PUBLIC RECORD FILED WITH THE TOWN CLERK, THE CASCADA 2 SPECIFIC PLAN ADOPTED BY ORDERS NUMBER 2025.022.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO I HEAR A SECOND?
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
[ Relating to Traffic and Highways; presentation regarding the status of the Pavement Preservation Program (Fausto Burruel)]
>> WITH RELATING TO TRAFFIC AND HIGHWAYS, PRESENTATION REGARDING THE STATUS OF THE PAVEMENT PRESERVATION PROGRAM.
>> MAYOR POST, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ONE MOMENT, I'M GOING TO BRING UP THE PRESENTATION.
>> SO MAYOR POST, TOWN COUNCIL.
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I AM VERY EXCITED TO COME BEFORE THIS BODY TO DISCUSS OUR PAVEMENT PRESERVATION PROGRAM.AS YOU RECALL, I BELIEVE IN FEBRUARY TIME FRAME, WE HAD A COUNCIL RETREAT AND AT THAT TIME, I DISCUSSED MANY INFRASTRUCTURE ITEMS, BUT I GAVE YOU JUST A BRIEF SNAPSHOT OF OUR NETWORK AND A BAR CHART, I BELIEVE THAT I SHOWED YOU JUST TO REALLY EXEMPLIFY THE GREAT SHAPE AND CONDITION OUR ROADWAYS IN.
BY NO MEANS, DO I TAKE CREDIT FOR THAT IT'S MY TEAM THAT DOES ALL THE HARD WORK.
WITH ME AND I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO COME UP, BUT THEY DECIDED TO STAY BACK.
IS OUR STREET SUPERINTENDENT DANIEL SILVA AND ONE OF OUR PROJECT MANAGERS, MAC MURRAY, AND THEY BOTH DO A LOT OF THE LION'S SHARE OF THE WORK WHEN IT COMES TO PAVEMENT PRESERVATION AND JUST MAINTAINING OUR ROADWAYS IN GENERAL.
I'D LIKE TO START OFF BY JUST GIVING THEM THANKS.
ALSO, JUST HIGHLIGHT THE PREDECESSORS AND THE WORK THAT THE TOWN DID FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, REALLY IDENTIFYING THE NEED TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT PAVEMENT PRESERVATION.
WE KNOW THAT IN THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS, WE HAVE A RELATIVELY YOUNG NETWORK, AND WE'RE VERY COGNIZANT OF THAT.
BUT LIKE ANYTHING, OUR NETWORK DOES CONTINUE TO AGE AND WE NEED TO STAY IN FRONT OF THAT.
AS PART OF THAT, WE'VE BEEN ACTIVE ABOUT HAVING ASSESSMENTS.
WE DID AN ASSESSMENT BACK IN THE 2019 TIME FRAME TO GET A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE OUR ROADWAY NETWORK STOOD AT THAT TIME AND TO ESTABLISH A LOT OF THE METRICS THAT WE UTILIZE WITH OUR SYSTEM.
I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO DETAIL AT THIS MOMENT BECAUSE THE GENTLEMAN BEHIND ME IS GOING TO REALLY TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
FAST FORWARD, FIVE YEARS LATER, WE DECIDED TO DO ANOTHER ASSESSMENT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WE ESTABLISHED IN 19 WAS FAIRLY ACCURATE AND TO FINE TUNE IT.
WE WERE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT WE'D DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB ABOUT STAYING ON TOP OF OUR NETWORK.
TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A TWO PRONGED ATTACK, TWO PRONG DISCUSSION.
ZAC THOMASON WITH ROADWAY ASSET SERVICES, THERE ARE CONSULTANT THAT DID THE ASSESSMENT THIS TIME AROUND AND HE HAS OVER 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE DOING THIS SIMILAR ANALYSIS THAT THEY DID FOR US THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
WE'RE TALKING LARGE CITIES, OTHER SMALLER AGENCIES.
HE'S ACTUALLY RECENTLY DID A LOT OF WORK FOR PAG.
THEY DO THIS TYPE OF WORK ALL OVER AND HE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR 20 YEARS.
AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO HAND THE REINS OVER TO ZAC, LET HIM PRESENT TO YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS AND THE SCIENCE BEHIND WHAT WE DID.
THEN I'M GOING TO COME BACK UP AND TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS FOR US.
WITH THAT, I'LL LET ZAC TAKE OVER.
>> ZAC, ARE YOU AS EXCITED ABOUT PAVEMENT PRESERVATION AS FAUSTO IS?
>> I LOVE PAVEMENT PRESERVATION.
>> YOU HAVE TO. YOU GOT TO LOVE TO DO.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, FAUSTO AND TEAM.
THE ENTIRE TOWN WAS WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH.
MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE STATE OF THE ROADWAY NETWORK HERE IN THE TOWN OF MARANA.
LET'S FIRST START WITH SOME BASIC TERMINOLOGY SO THAT WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT MILES OF ROAD, CENTERLINE MILES OF ROAD.
IMAGINE YOURSELF WALKING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF A ROAD, ANY ROAD.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S THE ROAD YOU LIVE ON OR A MAJOR ARTERIAL ROAD, YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF A ROAD AND YOU WALK FOR 1 MILE.
THAT IS ONE CENTERLINE MILE OF ROAD.
DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WITH THEIR AREA.
YOU FOLKS OWN AND MAINTAIN APPROXIMATELY 324 CENTER LINE MILES OF ROAD. A LOT OF PAVEMENT.
NOW, IF WE ADD WIDTH AND WE ADD AREA TO THAT, YOU FOLKS MAINTAIN A LITTLE OVER 5 MILLION SQUARE YARDS OF PAVEMENT. THAT'S A LOT.
THAT'S ENOUGH PAVEMENT TO BUILD A SMALL TWO LANE ROAD ALL THE WAY FROM HERE TO LAS VEGAS, NEVADA, IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO DO SO.
THIS IS A BIG ASSET ON THE BOOKS THAT YOU FOLKS MAINTAIN ON A DAILY BASIS.
IF WE THINK ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF A BALANCE SHEET, THE REPLACEMENT VALUE OF THIS ASSET OF PAVEMENT IS ON THE ORDER OF ABOUT $430 MILLION.
ALMOST HALF $1 BILLION TO REPLACE THE SURFACE AND THE SUB BASE OF YOUR ROADWAY NETWORK.
THAT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR SIGNAGE AND SIDEWALKS AND DRAINAGE AND BRIDGES AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF THAT COMES WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.
BUT FOR THE PAVEMENTS ALONE, IT'S A BIG ASSET ON THE BOOKS.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING CALLED OCI.
THE OVERALL CONDITION INDEX, YOU FOLKS ARE FAMILIAR WITH IT.
YOU FOLKS USE THAT TERMINOLOGY.
YOU PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM USES IT.
QUITE SIMPLY, IT'S A 0-100 SCORE THAT RANKS THE HEALTH OF A ROADWAY.
ZERO IS ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE ON ITS WAY BACK TO GRAVEL, 100 IS A PERFECTLY BRAND NEW ROAD THAT'S PAVED YESTERDAY.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PRESERVATION ACTIVITIES.
PRESERVATION ACTIVITIES ARE LIGHTWEIGHT, COST EFFECTIVE ACTIVITIES, WHOSE WHOLE PURPOSE IN LIFE IS TO EXTEND
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PAVEMENT DESIGN LIFE AT THE ABSOLUTE LOWEST COST.YOU FOLKS DO A LOT OF PRESERVATION WORK.
YOU ARE GOOD STEWARDS OF PAVEMENT PRESERVATION.
LASTLY, I'M GOING TO MENTION ASTM D6433 FOR THE FIRST AND LAST TIME.
IT IS SIMPLY THE RULES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED BY THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS THAT WE ADOPTED TO PERFORM THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT AND CALCULATE THESE OCI SCORES THAT ARE PART OF YOUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT? IT'S REALLY TWOFOLD AND IT'S VERY SIMPLE.
THE FIRST PURPOSE IS TO SELECT THE RIGHT ROAD WITH THE RIGHT TREATMENT AT THE RIGHT TIME, VERY CRITICAL.
THE SECOND PURPOSE IS TO EXTEND PAVEMENT DESIGN LIFE AT THE ABSOLUTE LOWEST COST SO THAT YOU FOLKS AND YOUR TAXPAYERS GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK IN TERMS OF PAVEMENT DESIGN LIFE.
IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FIRST CURVE THAT YOU SEE THERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, IT BEHOOVES US TO CAPTURE ROADS WHILE THEY'RE IN GOOD CONDITION, PERFORM PRESERVATION, GET THAT BIG BANG FOR THE BUCK AND EXTEND PAVEMENT DESIGN LIFE AT THE ABSOLUTE LOWEST COST.
THE ALTERNATIVE IS DEFERRING AND DOING NOTHING, LETTING THE ROADS DEGRADE, AND THEN PAYING THAT BIG BILL LATER.
IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN MAINTAINING THE CARS THAT YOU DRIVE ON A DAILY BASIS.
YOU CHANGE THE OIL, YOU FLUSH THE COOLANT IN EFFORT TO MAXIMIZE THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLE.
YOU'VE MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION THAT YOU'D RATHER CHANGE THE OIL EVERY 3,000 MILES INSTEAD OF DEFERRING MAINTENANCE AND SWAPPING THE ENGINE EVERY 30,000 MILES.
IT'S JUST MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO MAINTAIN OUR ASSETS.
WHAT WE DID AS A PART OF THE SURVEY, WE DROVE SOME EQUIPMENT THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU HERE ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
WE DROVE EVERY ROAD THAT YOU FOLKS OWN AND MAINTAIN HERE IN THE TOWN.
YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE ON THIS MAP, DIFFERENT TYPES OF ROAD, RESIDENTIAL ROADS, COLLECTOR ROADS, ARTERIAL ROADS, ALL OF THOSE WERE DRIVEN.
ALL OF THE DATA THAT WE CAPTURED IS TIED BACK TO YOUR TOWN GIA CENTER LINE AND IS TIED BACK TO YOUR OPENGOV PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT YOU FOLKS UTILIZE.
IF YOU MISSED IT, THIS IS THE VAN THAT DROVE ALL THE STREET.
MY KIDS LIKE TO CALL THIS THE GHOSTBUSTERS VAN.
I'M SORRY TO SAY THERE ARE NO PROTON PACKS ON BOARD.
HOWEVER, THAT BIG THIN ON THE BACK END OF THAT VAN, THAT IS A HIGH RESOLUTION CAMERA WITH WITH LASER LINE ILLUMINATION.
IT'S JOB, VERY SIMPLY IS TO MEASURE ALL THE PAVEMENT DISTRESSES THAT FALL BENEATH IT.
IT'S LITERALLY MEASURING THE WIDTH AND DEPTH OF ALL THE CRACKS AND THE POTHOLES AND THE DIFFERENT DISTRESS FEATURES.
ON THE VERY TOP OF THAT VAN, YOU'LL SEE A BOOM.
THAT'S A FIVE LENS PANORAMIC CAMERA THAT CAPTURED RIGHT OF WAY IMAGERY AS A PART OF THE PROJECT.
THE TOWN OWNS THIS IMAGERY AS A PART OF WHAT WE DID.
THAT IMAGERY CAN BE LEVERAGED TO LITERALLY DEVELOP AN INVENTORY OF ANY ROADSIDE FEATURE OR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU FOLKS OWN AND MAINTAIN.
SIGN INVENTORIES OR SIDEWALK INVENTORIES OR GUARD RAIL OR DRAINAGE ELEMENTS.
ANY OF THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED USING THAT IMAGERY. HERE'S A QUICK SAMPLE.
THE TOP IMAGES THAT YOU SEE THERE, THOSE ARE IMAGES RIGHT HERE FROM THE TOWN.
THE BOTTOM IMAGE IS NOT FROM THE TOWN, BUT IT'S REALLY ILLUSTRATIVE OF WHAT WE DO.
THAT BIG FIN, I SHOWED YOU ON THE BACK END OF THAT VAN, THAT'S WHAT IT'S DOING.
IT'S MEASURING ALL OF THOSE DISTRESS FEATURES THAT FALL BENEATH IT SO THAT WE CAN CALCULATE AN OCI SCORE THAT ADHERES TO INDUSTRY STANDARDS.
THIS DATA YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN, THIS IS THE PAVEMENT CONDITION DATA THAT FAUSTO AND TEAM PRESENTED TO YOU EARLIER IN THE YEAR.
THE MAP THAT YOU SEE IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER IS ORGANIZED LIKE A STOP LIGHT, GREEN IS GOOD, RED IS BAD, YELLOW AND ORANGE ARE THOSE SUBTLE LEVELS, IN BETWEEN, THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU SEE A LOT OF GREEN.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS HERE ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES.
>> THIS IS THAT OCI DISTRIBUTION GRAPH THAT YOU FOLKS SAW EARLIER IN THE YEAR.
BEFORE WE RUN ANY MODELS AND WE DO ANY ANALYSIS, LOOKING AT THIS, IT CAN TELL US A LOT ABOUT AN AGENCY IN TERMS OF HOW THEY'RE MANAGING THEIR ROADWAY NETWORK, AND MAYBE EVEN HOW OLD THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE IS AS A PART OF THEIR SYSTEM.
ONE OF THE FIRST METRICS THAT I ALWAYS LOOK AT IS THE NETWORK AVERAGE OCI SCORE. WHAT IS IT? YOUR CURRENT NETWORK AVERAGE OCI IS 74, AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD SCORE.
THE NETWORK AVERAGE THAT WE SEE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, RIGHT NOW, IS BETWEEN 65 AND 75.
YOU'RE AT THE UPPER END OF THE AVERAGES IN TERMS OF THE SCORE ITSELF.
IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO BE. TO PUT THAT INTO CONTEXT, LESS THAN ONE AND 10 SCORE ABOVE A 75 AND LESS THAN ONE AND 20 SCORE ABOVE AN 80, SO YOU'RE IN A REALLY GOOD, MANAGEABLE PLACE TO MANAGE THIS ASSET MOVING FORWARD.
THE OTHER THING WE LOOK AT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF GOOD ROADS.
ROUGHLY JUST SHY OF 20% OF YOUR NETWORK FALLS INTO THE GOOD CATEGORY.
IT'S A LITTLE LOWER THAN WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO SEE ON AVERAGE.
YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ABOUT 25%, AS THAT TELLS US IF ENOUGH FUNDING HAS BEEN REINVESTED IN THE ROADWAY NETWORK, AND I'LL TOUCH ON THAT HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT IT'S PRETTY CLOSE.
IF IT WERE DOWN IN THE SEVEN OR 8% RANGE, LIKE WE SEE WITH SOME AGENCIES, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
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WE HAVE A FUNDING ISSUE, WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE ISSUE AT PLAY, NOT THE CASE HERE.LAST METRIC WE LOOK AT IS BACKLOG.
BACKLOG IS ALL YOUR BIG-TICKET WORK.
IT'S YOUR FULL RECONSTRUCTION AND YOUR PARTIAL RECONSTRUCTION WORK.
LESS THAN 1% OF YOUR ROADWAY NETWORK FALLS INTO WHAT I WOULD CALL BACKLOG.
ON THAT GRAPH, BACKLOG IS ALL YOUR FAILED, SERIOUS, AND VERY POOR ROADS ON THAT PARTICULAR GRAPH.
YOU DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF THEM.
TO PUT THAT INTO CONTEXT, TYPICALLY, ANYTHING LESS THAN 8% OF THE NETWORK FALLING INTO BACKLOG IS CONSIDERED FINANCIALLY IDEAL FROM A PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE, 12% IS WHAT I WOULD CALL AVERAGE AND MANAGEABLE FOR YOUR AVERAGE AGENCY, 15% IS WHERE WE GET CONCERNED AS CONSULTANTS, AND THAT'S TYPICALLY A MAXIMUM RECOMMENDED MARK, BECAUSE AS BACKLOG EXCEEDS 15% AND APPROACHES 20% FOR SOME AGENCIES, THAT BIG TICKET WORK CAN EFFECTIVELY SNOWBALL ON YOU FASTER THAN YOU CAN PUMP CAPITAL UNDER THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
NOT AN ISSUE WHATSOEVER HERE IN MARANA, BUT IT IS AN ISSUE FOR A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WE WORK WITH ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND EVEN IN ARIZONA.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ANALYSIS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WITH TOWN STAFF IS WE WORKED WITH YOUR OPENGOV PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT YOU FOLKS HAVE, FORMERLY CALLED CARTEGRAPH, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT TERM.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE IN THE UPPER LEFT-HAND CORNER THOSE ARE THE PAVEMENT DEGRADATION CURVES THAT WE LOADED IN THAT ALLOW US TO FORECAST AND PREDICT CONDITIONS IN THE FUTURE.
WE WORKED WITH TOWN STAFF TO PROGRAM IN ALL THE DIFFERENT TREATMENT TYPES THAT THEY DO, FROM MINOR TREATMENTS SUCH AS FOG SEALS, AND MODERATE TREATMENTS, SUCH AS CHIP AND SLURRY, AND THEN PROGRAM IN THE COSTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THOSE ACTIVITIES.
WHEN WE SET UP THE MODELS IN THE SYSTEM AND WE DEVELOP A FIVE-YEAR PLAN, ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS FOLKS ALWAYS ASK IS, WELL, HOW DOES IT PICK? WHY DID YOU PICK MAIN STREET OVER FIFTH AVENUE? SOMETIMES, IT'S A COMPLICATED ANSWER.
I'M GOING TO BREAK IT DOWN VERY SIMPLY HERE.
THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT YOUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM DOES.
IT PRIORITIZES ROADS, IT CREATES A RANKING, A LIST OF ROADS FROM HIGHEST TO LOWEST, AND IT'S VERY SIMPLEST FORM.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT METRICS THOSE ARE HERE ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
BUT THE SECOND THING IT DOES IS IT DOES FINANCIAL OPTIMIZATION, SUCH THAT YOU GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR YOUR TAXPAYER'S BUCK IN TERMS OF SELECTING THE APPROPRIATE ROADS AT THE RIGHT TIME WITH THE RIGHT TREATMENT.
WHAT YOUR SYSTEM DOES IS IT GOES THROUGH ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS THAT YOU SEE HERE.
THAT'S HOW IT DOES THE FINANCIAL OPTIMIZATION IN THE SYSTEM, AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THAT COST OF DEFERRAL OPTIMIZATION LOOKS LIKE ON THE NEXT SLIDE HERE.
THEN IT USES PAVEMENT TYPE AS A PART OF THE EQUATION.
IT USES TRAFFIC VOLUME AND CLASSIFICATIONS AS A PART OF THAT PRIORITIZATION EQUATION.
IT USES THE DISTRESS DATA TO DETERMINE STRENGTH OF ROADS, A VERY SOUND ENGINEERING, FINANCIALLY DEFENSIBLE DATA THAT'S USED TO SELECT STREETS AS CANDIDATES USING YOUR FUNDING LEVEL OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
LET ME GIVE YOU A QUICK SNEAK PEEK OF HOW YOUR PAYMENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WORKS.
THIS IS WHAT THE COST OF DEFERRAL LOOKS LIKE IN YOUR SYSTEM DOES.
ON THE X-AXIS THERE, YOU SEE THOSE DIFFERENT TREATMENTS THAT ARE PROGRAMMED INTO THE SYSTEM.
THE WHITE DOLLAR FIGURES THE COST PER SQUARE YARD TO DO THOSE TREATMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN CONFIGURED WITHIN IT.
THE FIRST THING THE SYSTEM DOES IS IT CALCULATES WHAT I LIKE TO CALL THE COST OF KICK IN THE CAN, THE COST OF DEFERRAL OF DOING NOTHING, AND ALLOWING SOMETHING TO FALL FROM ONE CATEGORY TO THE NEXT.
A MODERATE TREATMENT THAT FALLS INTO A MAJOR TREATMENT.
THE COST OF DEFERRAL IS $12 A SQUARE YARD.
IT'S THE OPPORTUNITY COST LOST BECAUSE OF DEFERMENT.
THE SYSTEM TAKES IT A STEP FURTHER AND SAYS, LET'S FIND ALL THE CRITICAL ROADS.
CRITICAL ROADS ARE ROADS THAT, IF NOT SELECTED THIS YEAR, WILL DEFER AND BECOME EXPONENTIALLY MORE EXPENSIVE NEXT YEAR.
THIS IS HOW IT STARTS OPTIMIZING ITS SELECTIONS FOR TREATMENT.
THEN LASTLY, IT SEQUENCES THEM BASED ON THE COST OF DEFERRAL.
GRABS ALL THE MODERATE TREATMENT ROADS FIRST, THEN ALL YOUR CRITICAL MILL OVERLAYS, THEN JUMPS TO THE CRITICAL FOG SEALS ON THAT SIDE.
VERY SOUND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT IN TERMS OF ITS SELECTION CRITERIA, THAT IT RUNS WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
I ALSO LIKE TO NOTE, PAVEMENT MANAGER SYSTEM SOMETIMES LIVES IN A BUBBLE.
IT'S UP TO THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM AND FAUSTO AND HIS TEAM TO ALSO INFUSE SOME LOCAL REALITIES.
IF THERE ARE UTILITY CONSTRAINTS OR PROJECT-LEVEL CONSTRAINTS THAT MAY IMPACT PARTICULAR PROJECTS FROM BEING DONE.
THOSE MAY NEED TO BE DEFERRED BECAUSE OF LOCAL CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE AT PLAY THAT THE SYSTEM MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT UNLIMITED FUNDING.
IF SOMEONE WROTE YOU FOLKS A BLANK CHECK TO GO OUT AND FIX ALL ROADS AND LIKE NEW CONDITION, WHAT WOULD THAT NUMBER BE? THAT'S ON THE ORDER OF ABOUT $21.4 MILLION.
SOUNDS LIKE A BIG NUMBER, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY RELATIVELY VERY LOW.
THE REASON IT'S LOW IS BECAUSE YOUR ROADWAY NETWORK IS IN SUCH GOOD CONDITION.
MAJORITY OF YOUR ROADS ARE PRESERVATION CANDIDATES.
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IF IT WAS THE OPPOSITE AND THE MAJORITY OF YOUR ROADS WERE MILL AND OVERLAY CANDIDATES, THAT NUMBER WOULD BE HUGE.YOUR NEED WOULD BE LARGER BECAUSE OF THE DISTRIBUTION OF YOUR CONDITIONS. IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO BE IN.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MODEL RESULTS, TWO SLIDES LEFT, AND THEN I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO FAUSTO.
THIS IS THE RESULTS OF SEVERAL OF THE BUDGET MODELS THAT WE RAN IN THE SYSTEM.
THIS IS A VERY TYPICAL BUDGET SCENARIO GRAPH.
ON THE X-AXIS THERE YOU HAVE TIME OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WHERE WE FORECAST CONDITIONS AT DIFFERENT FUNDING LEVELS.
VERY SIMPLY, THERE'S A FIX-ALL SCENARIO ON THE TOP TO CREATE A CEILING.
I DO NOTHING ON THE BOTTOM TO CREATE A FLOOR.
THE ONE I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT HERE, THAT GREEN LINE THAT YOU SEE THERE IS YOUR CURRENT FUNDING LEVEL AT TWO MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY.
AT TWO MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY, YOU'RE PROJECTED OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, OCI WILL DROP BY A POINT.
YOU'LL DROP FROM 74 TO 73, IS THE PROJECTED FORECAST.
I SHOULD NOTE, TOO, WE DID ACCOUNT FOR INFLATION, SO THERE IS A 5% ANNUALIZED INFLATION THAT'S INCLUDED IN THESE MODEL RUNS.
INFLATION HAS BEEN QUITE CHAOTIC SINCE 2020.
WE ALL KNOW THAT, BUT 5% IS, TYPICALLY, A FAIRLY SAFE INFLATION NUMBER THAT'S BEEN USED BY MANY AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE.
THIS NEXT BUDGET GRAPH, AND LAST ONE HERE, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
NOW YOU HAVE THE ANNUAL BUDGET, THE AVERAGE ANNUAL BUDGET OVER FIVE YEARS ON THE X-AXIS, AND THAT BLUE DIAGONAL LINE YOU SEE THERE, THAT'S JUST A RESULT OF ALL THE MODELS THAT WE RAN IN THE SYSTEM SO THAT WE COULD TRULY UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN FUNDING AND THE OUTCOME OF OCI.
THE TWO I'D LIKE YOU TO PAY ATTENTION TO, THE PINK LINE IS YOUR CURRENT BUDGET AT TWO MILLION.
THE YELLOW LINE, THAT'S THE DOLLARS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN YOUR EXISTING NETWORK AVERAGE OCI AT 74.
TO DO THAT, THAT'S PROJECTED TO BE $2.7 MILLION ANNUALLY, THAT'S REQUIRED.
NOTES ON THAT, YOU'RE A GROWING TOWN.
THESE NUMBERS DO NOT ACCOUNT FOR GROWTH.
THESE NUMBERS SOLELY ACCOUNT FOR THE PAVED AREA THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU OWN AND MAINTAIN TODAY.
NOW KNOWING THAT, WE CAN USE THE MODELS TO TELL US HOW MUCH FUNDING DO WE THINK WE SHOULD SET ASIDE FOR EVERY MILE OF ROAD THAT WE INCORPORATE OR BRING ON, OR WE START MAINTAINING AS A PART OF THE TOWN.
BASED ON THE MODELS, RIGHT NOW, THAT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT $8.5 THOUSAND, SO $8,500 PER CENTER LINE MILE OF ROAD ON AVERAGE.
THAT SHOULD BE SET ASIDE FOR EVERY MILE OF ROAD THAT IS ADOPTED BY THE TOWN.
THEN LAST THING, THESE MODELS SHOULD BE UPDATED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
COSTS CHANGE DRAMATICALLY, ECONOMICS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.
THE BENEFIT OF THE TOWN IS YOU HAVE AN ACTIVE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT TOWN STAFF UTILIZES, AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO RUN NEW MODELS AND UPDATE MODELS, AND KEEP THIS DATA LIVE AND FRESH AT ALL TIMES.
WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO BE ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS.
>> PRESERVATION IS CLEARLY THE BEST PLACE TO PUT THE MONEY.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THAT IS SO CLEAR? IN A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT ROAD IS GOING TO BE LOOKING GREAT FOR HOW MANY YEARS, AND THEN WHEN YOU START TRYING TO PRESERVE IT?
>> WHEN YOU START TRYING TO PRESERVE, IT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR EACH AGENCY, AND OFTEN FUNDING IS A BIG CONSTRAINT IN THAT.
IN A PERFECT WORLD, WE START PRESERVING IT A YEAR AFTER IT'S PAVED, BUT OFTEN THAT'S UNAFFORDABLE BY MOST AGENCIES.
TYPICALLY, ON AVERAGE, MOST FOLKS START PRESERVATION BETWEEN ABOUT FIVE AND SEVEN YEARS AFTER THAT ROAD IS PAVED.
SOMETIMES IT MIGHT STRETCH TO 10, WHICH IS A LITTLE LATE, BUT YOU CAN STILL GET IN AND DO THAT PRESERVATION WORK, SO IT'S DEPENDENT.
THE EARLIER, THE BETTER, NO DOUBT, BECAUSE YOU CAN STOP OXIDATION OF ROAD, YOU CAN REDUCE MOTHER NATURE'S IMPACT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO THE ROADWAY.
>> I HAD A FOLLOW-UP, IF YOU COULD.
WHY DON'T WE SEE MANY POTHOLES? I'VE NEVER SEEN A POTHOLE IN MARANA.
>> WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE YOU HAVE A FANTASTIC PUBLIC WORKS CREW, THEN, BECAUSE POTHOLES DO HAPPEN.
>> HOW DO THEY HAPPEN? WHAT HAPPENS?
>> TYPICALLY, WHAT HAPPENS, POTHOLES ARE WHAT WE CALL A LOAD-RELATED DISTRESSES CAUSED BY TRAFFIC VOLUMES.
TYPICALLY, WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU START GETTING SOME LONGITUDINAL CRACKS.
THEN YOU GET ANOTHER ONE BESIDE IT.
THEY START INTERWEAVING, YOU GET WHAT WE CALL ALLIGATOR CRACKS, AND IT'S VERY FATTENED.
THOSE CHUNKS IN PIECES START POPPING AND FALLING OUT, WHICH THEN CREATES A POTHOLE.
THAT'S A VERY TYPICAL WAY POTHOLES ARE FORMED.
THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO, IT COULD BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WITH SOIL CONDITIONS, BUT THAT'S THE AVERAGE WAY THEY START.
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>> YOU MAY OPPOSE. COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THINK YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE HOW ENTHUSIASTIC ZACH IS WHEN IT COMES TO PAVEMENT PRESERVATION.
I AM AS WELL, BUT OBVIOUSLY, IN PUBLIC WORKS, WE HAVE A FEW MORE THINGS, SO I CAN'T PUT ALL MY ENTHUSIASM ON JUST ONE AREA.
WITH THAT, NOW THAT ZACH HAS GIVEN YOU THE METHODOLOGY, A LITTLE BIT OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE SCIENCE BEHIND IT.
NOW, I'M GOING TO HOPEFULLY GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE OF THE REAL-WORLD, WHAT PUBLIC WORKS IS GOING TO DO WITH THIS DATA, AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO UTILIZE THIS WEALTH OF INFORMATION AND MOVE FORWARD.
AGAIN, JUST A QUICK REITERATION, PAVEMENT PRESERVATION PHILOSOPHY.
YOU REALLY WANT TO PRESERVE EXCELLENT PAVEMENTS FIRST, TYPICALLY WITH A MINOR TREATMENT, AS YOU RECALL THE GRAPH.
IF YOU CAN HIT IT UP FRONT, TRY TO KEEP IT.
YOU CAN ALMOST PERPETUALLY KEEP THAT GOING.
REPAIR FAIR AND POOR PAVEMENTS NEXT WITH A MODERATE TREATMENT, AND RECONSTRUCT AS A LAST RESORT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO KEEP AWAY FROM DOING THAT.
AGAIN, OUR BACKLOG IS ALMOST ZERO, WHICH IS REALLY UNHEARD OF, SO REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THE TEAM DOES.
AS YOU SEE THESE NUMBERS, AND AGAIN, OVERALL CONDITION AND OCI.
SOMETIMES, YOU'LL HEAR PCI, IF YOU TALK WITH OTHERS FROM OTHER AGENCIES, THAT'S PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX.
THEY USE THEM INTERCHANGEABLY, SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
WE DECIDED TO GO AROUND AND TAKE SOME PICTURES JUST SO YOU CAN GET AN IDEA OF WHAT ROADWAYS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OR WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS A ZERO TO 40? AGAIN, POTHOLES, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU HAD, THE ALLIGATOR CRACKING, ZACH MENTIONED, YOU SEE THAT HERE.
TO BE HONEST, WITH THIS GROUP, WE HAD TO GO OUTSIDE OF OUR JURISDICTION TO GET SOME PICTURES FOR YOU TO SHOW THIS.
I'M NOT GOING TO MENTION ANYTHING BEYOND THAT, BUT WE ARE AGAIN VERY PROUD OF THE ROADWAYS THAT WE HAVE.
>> THAT'S THE ONE GETTING ON THE FREEWAY OVER HERE.
>> IT MAY BE IN OUR JURISDICTION, NOT WITHIN WHAT WE ACTUALLY OVERSEE.
THEN YOU GET TO THE NEXT STAGE, WHICH IS WHERE SOME OF OUR ROADWAYS DO FALL IN THE 41 TO 70 RANGE.
YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT ON THE LEFT.
THESE ARE STAGGERED TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE LOWER END LOOKS LIKE, AND AS YOU GET UP IN THE SCALE.
THEN ON THE RIGHT, YOU HAVE A ROADWAY THAT'S IN ONE OF OUR SUBDIVISIONS.
THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT BELOW A 70.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS SOME CRACKS THROUGH THE ROADWAY, SOME LITTLE BIT LARGER CRACKS, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE ROADWAY IS IN OVERALL PRETTY GOOD CONDITION.
AGAIN, THE IDEA OF THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME IMAGES, SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT OCI, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
THIS IMAGE, I KNOW ON THE LEFT, YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE A LOT OF CRACK SEAL AND THINK, WOW, AND THAT ROADWAY MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT WORSE SHAPE, BUT IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT THAT IMAGE A LITTLE CLOSELY, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THEY'RE VERY HAIRLINE CRACKS, IF YOU WILL.
OVERALL, THE ROADWAY IS IN VERY GOOD SHAPE.
LOOKING AT THAT CRACK SEAL, I JUST WANT YOU TO KEEP THAT IMAGE IN MIND BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO COME UP A LITTLE LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.
THE OTHER ROADWAYS YOU SEE ARE AGAIN GETTING INTO A HIGHER 80-PLUS ROADWAY ON THE TOP, AND NEAR THE BOTTOM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST BRAND NEW PRESERVED ROADS.
>> FAUSTO, IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS, A NUMBER OF YEARS SINCE WE CHANGED.
>> STANDARDS. HOW IS THAT PLAYING OUT FOR US? IS THAT WORKING OUT?
>> MAYOR POST, FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN, IT APPEARS TO BE WORKING OUT VERY WELL.
FROM OUR SUBDIVISIONS, WE SEE THAT THEY'RE HOLDING UP VERY WELL OVERALL ACROSS THE BOARD.
PART OF THAT IS PRESERVATION THAT WE DO.
ONE THING THAT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, AND COUNCIL MEMBER KAVANAGH MENTIONED IT, ABOUT THE PRESERVATION, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO.
WE REQUIRE NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN TO DO THE FIRST PRESERVATION TREATMENT ON THAT ROADWAY.
WHERE ZACH TALKS ABOUT, WE DO GET NEW ROADS, AND WE DO ACKNOWLEDGE AND OR COGNIZANT OF THAT.
WE HONESTLY DO KICK THE CAN USING HIS PHRASE DOWN THE ROAD EVEN FURTHER BECAUSE THE FIRST FIVE YEARS WE REALLY HAVE THAT PRESERVATION BUILT IN.
THE DEVELOPER THEMSELVES ACTUALLY DO THAT PRESERVATION OR THEY DO IT IN LIEU FEE, WHICH A LOT OF THEM CHOOSE TO DO THAT.
THEY PAY US, AND THEN WE ADD IT INTO OUR PROGRAM SO WHEN WE DO WITH ECONOMIES OF SCALE, WE CAN DO QUITE A BIT MORE, BUT WE ADD THAT INTO OUR SYSTEM.
WE MAKE SURE TO IDENTIFY THOSE ROADS AND WE DO CAPTURE THEM.
THE OTHER THING IS, WE ALSO HAVE A SIMILAR TYPE OF ACTIVITY THAT WE DO WITH OUR CIP PROJECTS.
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WE ENSURE THAT THE FIRST PRESERVATION ARE PART OF THE PROCESS BEFORE WE HAND IT OVER TO THE PUBLIC WORK STREETS TEAM TO THEN TAKE ON THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT ROADWAY.>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. FASTOR, QUICK QUESTION.
SOME OF OUR ROADS IN TOWN OF MARANA LIKE INA ROAD THAT'S WELL USED BY WASTE MANAGEMENT TRUCKS, TANGERINE ROAD WITH THE CEMENT TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT, CTI, DO YOU FORESEE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE HEAVY USE IN THOSE AREAS, AND HOW WILL WE DEAL WITH?
>> GOOD QUESTION. MAYOR POST, COUNCIL MEMBER KAI.
THE ROADS YOU IDENTIFIED ARE LARGER ROADWAYS.
AS YOU MOVE FROM A LOCAL ROAD, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A LOWER STRUCTURAL ROADWAY.
AS YOU GET TO THE LARGER ROADWAYS, AS PART OF THE DESIGN OF THOSE ROADS, THAT IS ACTUALLY BUILT INTO THAT FACTOR TO WITHSTAND THE LOADING OF THOSE TYPE OF VEHICLES THAT WILL BE DRIVING ON THE ROAD.
THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES, AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE MAY BE SOME HEAVY USES, WHETHER IT BE A PIT OR A TRUCKING OUTFIT OR CERTAIN THINGS THAT MAY INCREASE THOSE CERTAIN TYPE OF VEHICLES THAT ROADWAY IS SEEING, BUT WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THE DESIGN THAT WE UTILIZE FOR THOSE DO COMPENSATE AND TAKE INTO ACCOUNT FOR THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO GO TOO MUCH INTO THIS SLIDE.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF ZACH.
WHAT HE MENTIONED IS WE DO UTILIZE WHAT'S CALLED SCENARIO BUILDER.
A LOT OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY HEARD CARDO GRAPH BEFORE, AND I WAS RECENTLY PURCHASED BY OPENGOV.
IT'S THE SAME SOFTWARE SUITE THAT WE UTILIZED.
THIS IS OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT WE USE THROUGHOUT PUBLIC WORKS AND ACTUALLY A COUPLE OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE TOWN.
BUT WHAT IT ALLOWS US TO DO IS IT DOES EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS, IT ALLOWS US TO RUN A SCENARIO.
I SHOULD TAKE A STEP BACK AND SAY, AT THIS POINT, THIS IS REALLY AN EDUCATION EFFORT FOR THIS COUNCIL.
BUT AT THIS POINT, WE HAVEN'T UTILIZED THE SYSTEM TO ITS FULL EXTENT TO REALLY ESTABLISH WHERE WE ARE GOING FORWARD.
WE FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT ABOUT YEAR 1, AND I WILL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BUT THIS PROGRAM ALLOWS US TO RUN A FEW DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
ONE, WE CAN ESTABLISH A FIXED BUDGET THAT WE THINK, OKAY, YOU'RE HERE, AND I'VE HEARD IT SEVERAL TIMES, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE DEPUTY MANAGER ERIC MONTAGUE MENTIONING, WE WANT THE PROGRAM TO DRIVE THE DOLLARS.
WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT OUR ROADWAYS NEED, SO WE UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH THE BUDGET IS.
WE DO, FOR THE MOST PART, THIS ACTIVITY HAS DONE THAT.
BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN, WHERE WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A FINITE RESOURCE WHEN IT COMES TO FUNDING SO WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH MAYBE A FUNDING LEVEL, IF YOU WILL, THAT WE KNOW THAT WILL ESTABLISH WHAT WE NEED, WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN KEEP OUR ROADWAYS, HOW WE'D LIKE TO KEEP OUR ROADWAYS, BUT ALSO WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED THOSE FUNDS FOR OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAMS DO.
THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THIS WILL ALLOW US TO DO.
THE OTHER THING IS, WE CAN ESTABLISH IF WE WANT TO KEEP A CERTAIN OCI LEVEL, IF WE WANT TO INCREASE AN OCI LEVEL, WE CAN RUN THOSE CERTAIN SCENARIOS, TOO.
OBVIOUSLY, WITH EVERYTHING COMES AN ASSOCIATED COST.
I MENTIONED YEAR 1, AND THIS IS CURRENTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT OF.
THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO FOR THIS YEAR'S PAYMENT PRESERVATION.
IT'S JUST THAT WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THIS, WE WEREN'T QUITE AT THE POINT WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH THIS PROGRAM, BUT WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT THIS ALIGNS VERY WELL WITH WHAT RAZ DID WITH THEIR ANALYSIS AND WHERE WE'RE LANDING WITH OUR PAYMENT PRESERVATION.
JUST A FEW THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, AND ZACH MENTIONED THINGS THAT WE DO.
THIS IS A MODEL, AND WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT, AND IT'S GOING TO IDENTIFY A FEW THINGS.
IN THIS AREA, THE REASON WHY WE HIGHLIGHTED THIS, IF YOU'LL NOTICE, THERE'S A FEW LITTLE RED DOTS, AND AS YOU RECALL, BACK TO THE STOP LIGHT ANALOGY, RED MEANS BAD.
RED MEANS THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A HIGHER LEVEL THAT WE NEED TO DO ON THOSE PARTICULAR SEGMENTS, OR RECONSTRUCTION.
BUT WHAT WE ALSO DO IS WE HAVE THE HUMAN FACTOR AND WE HAVE OUR TEAM THAT ACTUALLY GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, BECAUSE WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN THE DATA AND THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVE, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO DO SOME SPOT CHECKS AND MAKE SURE.
IN SOME OF THESE AREAS, I CAN TELL YOU, WE TOOK A LOOK, AND WHILE THERE ARE DISTRESSES, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE CANDIDATES THAT ACTUALLY BE RECONSTRUCTED.
WE NOTICE THAT THERE ARE SOME LARGE CRACKING IN THERE, AND WE DO HAVE WAYS TO MITIGATE THAT.
BUT OVERALL, THE ROADWAYS LOOK LIKE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PERFORM A LESSER TREATMENT ON AND WRAP THEM INTO EVERYTHING.
WHAT WE WERE REALLY PROPOSING TO DO, WHICH ZACH ALLUDED TO, IS SIMILAR TO THE FIVE-YEAR CIP PROGRAM.
WE'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH A FIVE-YEAR MODEL FOR PAYMENT PRESERVATION, BUT EVERY YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO RE-ESTABLISH YEAR 1.
WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, HAVE A GOOD YEAR 1 AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE ACTIVITIES WE DID THAT YEAR, ENTER THEM INTO THE PROGRAM, SO IT UNDERSTANDS WHERE OUR OCI IS AT,
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AND ALSO LOOK AT THE NEXT YEAR.NOW, THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS WE ARE A GROWING COMMUNITY.
WE ARE ADDING ROADWAYS TO THE NETWORK.
VERY SHORTLY HERE, WE'RE GOING TO ADD THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE DOING TO TANGERINE, AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO ADD TWIN PEAKS.
THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY TWO LANES, SO WE'RE ADDING TWO ADDITIONAL LANES.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE FOUR-LANE DIVIDED NOW. THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
WE ALSO HAVE ROADWAYS THAT WE'RE SOON GOING TO GET FROM THE MONARCH DEVELOPMENT AND A FEW OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING ON BOARD.
THOSE TYPE OF THINGS WILL CONTINUOUSLY BE ADDED INTO OUR NETWORK.
>> FASTOR, WHY WOULDN'T YOU JUST AUTOMATICALLY ADD NEW ROADWAYS INTO YOUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN?
>> THE $8.5 THOUSAND PER CENTER LINE. DO YOU ADD THAT?
>> IN REGARDS WE ADD THE ROADWAY IN, BUT AS YOU RECALL, THE DEVELOPER PAYS FOR THE FIRST PRESERVATION TREATMENT.
>> I DON'T SEE MUCH OF A INCREASE IN YOUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN.
>> WE'RE RUNNING A FIXED MODEL, BUT AS YOU RECALL, ZACH, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE MODEL CAN RUN.
IT DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO FORECAST AND ADD ROADWAYS TO THE NETWORK.
YOU CAN MANIPULATE A FEW OF THE OTHER METRICS THAT YOU WANT TO ADD, BUT WE CAN'T PUT INTO IT A FORECASTER IF WE'RE ADDING 10 OR 15 MILES OF ROADWAY EACH YEAR.
THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE MODEL ALLOWS YOU TO DO.
IT'S LOOKING AT YOUR NETWORK THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE RIGHT NOW, AND THAT IS WHAT IT'S BASING YOUR SCENARIO AND YOUR MODELING OFF OF.
>> I GUESS THIS QUESTION MIGHT BE, EITHER ONE OF YOU GUYS, DOES EVERY FIVE YEARS, COULD THIS HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF CHANGING GREATLY, LIKE MOVING FROM A, WHICH WOULD CHANGE THE BUDGET FROM 2.5 MILLION TO FOUR OR FIVE MILLION, UNDER WHAT SCENARIO WOULD THIS CHANGE DRASTICALLY?
>> MAYOR POST COST OF TREATMENT.
IF COSTS WERE TO ESCALATE SUBSTANTIALLY, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SAW ON LIKE A COVID TIME FRAME, THOSE THINGS, THAT COULD REALLY DRASTICALLY IMPACT OUR BUDGET.
IF WE MAKE THE DECISION OF, HEY, WE NEED TO CAP IT AT A CERTAIN POINT, THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT'LL HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR ROADWAY NETWORK.
CURRENTLY, OUR ROADWAY IS IN A VERY GOOD CONDITION, AS YOU'VE SEEN.
EVEN IF WE DECIDED TO SIT BACK AND NOT DO ANYTHING, IT WOULD DEGRADE DOWN TO, I BELIEVE IT SHOWED LIKE A 67, AND THAT'S IF WE DECIDED NOT DO ANYTHING, WHICH MANY AGENCIES 67, THAT WOULD BE A HIGHLIGHT OF THEIR CAREER TO ACHIEVE THAT.
I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, BUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT COULD REALLY DRIVE THAT? IF THIS BODY DECIDES THAT WE WANT TO HAVE ADOCI.
I HAVE NOT RAN THAT PARTICULAR SCENARIO, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAN THE 2.7 MILLION THAT WAS IDENTIFIED.
>> THERE WOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY A PARTICULAR TIME FRAME WHEN YOU HAD MORE ROADS APPEAR DEGRADED THAN NORMAL AS LONG AS YOU KEPT UP WITH IT, IS IT?
>> CORRECT. MAYOR POST, IT'S ALMOST PERPETUAL.
THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU CAN AS LONG AS YOUR FOUNDATION IS SOUND AND THE ROADWAY ON TOP, YOU CAN ALMOST EXTEND ITS LIFE.
I WON'T SAY UNLIMITED, BUT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
ACTUALLY, MARK AND I WERE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT PAVEMENT PRESERVATION.
PAVEMENT PRESERVATION ADDS A VERY THIN LAYER, IF YOU WILL.
IF YOU DO, LIKE, A CHIP SEAL TYPE, A HALF-INCH CHIP, BUT AT SOME POINT, YOU CAN'T ADD AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF THAT BECAUSE THEN YOU MIGHT IMPACT THE DRAINAGE, YOU HAVE MANHOLES, YOU HAVE VALVES.
YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO IN AND MILL, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT OUR PRESERVATION LAYERS.
OVER TIME, THOSE LAYERS DO STACK UP AND ADD UP.
THERE ARE OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT WILL COME INTO PLAY BEYOND WHAT WE CURRENTLY SHOW.
>> IF WE CONTINUE TO ADD THESE TYPES OF DOLLARS WITH THE ADDITION OF NEW ROADS, OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN MAINTAIN AND NOT GET HIT WITH A $45 MILLION ROAD PRESERVATION.
HOWEVER, AS WE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN, AND I'VE TOLD THIS BODY, WE'RE VERY BLESSED.
WE HAVE A YOUNG NETWORK IN THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS, OUR NETWORK IS VERY YOUNG.
>> THAT'S WHY I KEEP TRYING TO ASK MY QUESTION.
YOU KEEP SAYING WE HAVE A YOUNG NETWORK, AND I'M SAYING, WELL, OKAY, WELL, AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT BECOME FAR MORE THAN $2.5 MILLION? DOES IT OR DOES IT NOT?
>> IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE.
ACTUALLY, THAT $22.5 MILLION, I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE THAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY ADD A LITTLE MORE OF THAT.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE DILIGENT ABOUT THIS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT.
THE OTHER THING IS, I'VE TALKED WITH TOWN MANAGER'S OFFICE ON THIS.
WE HAVE HRF IS FINITE, THE GAS TAX.
IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE 1991.
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IT'S CURRENTLY A SET RATE BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF FUEL THAT IS SOLD.AS WE KNOW, VEHICLES HAVE BECOME MORE ECONOMIC.
THE NUMBERS HAVE GOTTEN HIGHER, BUT THAT JUST MEANS BECAUSE THERE'S MORE PEOPLE IN THE STATE, MORE VEHICLES ON THE ROAD, ELECTRIC VEHICLES COME INTO PLAY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
WHILE HRF WISE, WE'RE STILL GETTING THE MONEY, MORE VEHICLES EQUATES THE MORE TRAFFIC, MORE VOLUMES, AND MORE LOADING ON THE ROADS.
THAT ALSO ADDS INTO THE DEGRADATION OR JUST THE IMPACTS ON THE ROADWAY.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH IS WE HAVE INCREASED THE ENGINEERING, AS YOU MENTIONED.
NOW WE HAVE MORE SOUND STRUCTURAL CROSS-SECTION IN OUR LOCAL ROADWAYS.
WE ACTUALLY WENT TO A 3/4, WHICH ALLOWS US THE OPPORTUNITY IF THE ROADWAY DOES GET TO A POINT, AND MAYOR POST THAT WE CAN NO LONGER DO PAVEMENT PRESERVATION OR IT'S GETTING TO A POINT THAT WE NEED TO DO SOME TYPE OF MILLING OVERLAY.
WE CAN DO THAT ON THE ROAD BECAUSE WE WENT TO A LARGE ENOUGH SECTION THAT WE CAN MILL OUT A PORTION OF THAT AND OVERLAY IT.
WE'VE DONE SOME GOOD THINGS AS FAR AS ENGINEERING-WISE, AND OF COURSE, WE DO A GOOD JOB OF ENGINEERING ANALYSIS AND ESTABLISHING THE PROPER ROADWAY CROSS-SECTION WHEN WE BUILD OUR LARGER ROADWAYS.
>> FASTOR. ONE QUESTION I HAVE HERE FROM WHAT YOU SAW HERE ON THIS GRAPH HERE, WHY ARE ALMOST EVERY ONE OF OUR BAD RESPOTS IN A CUL-DE-SAC? WHAT HAVE YOU GUYS COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO THAT OR WHY IS IT HAPPENING?
>> GOOD QUESTION, MAYOR POST, COUNCIL MEMBER OFFICER.
TYPICALLY IN CUL-DE-SAC, YOU'LL SEE WHERE A LOT OF THE TURNING MOVEMENTS HAPPEN.
TRASH TRUCKS COME THROUGH, THEY GO THROUGH, THEY TURN AROUND IN THE CUL-DE-SAC, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS IS THE TURNAROUND AREA.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE NOTICED.
WHEN WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND PHYSICALLY ASSESSED THESE AREAS, WE DIDN'T NOTICE THE DISTRESSES TO THE LEVEL THAT WE WOULD BELIEVE THAT IT ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE [INAUDIBLE] REMOVE REPLACED OR MILL AND OVERLAY.
WHAT THIS DID DO FOR US, THOUGH, THAT IT MADE THAT VERY FOCAL AND VISIBLE.
WE DID DO THAT AND GO ON AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE ACTIVITY IN THESE AREAS, AND NOW WE'RE AWARE OF THAT, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO SO.
WHEN A DEVELOPER BUILDS A NEW ROAD IN THE SUBDIVISION, DOES OUR DESIGN STANDARDS SAY, HEY, YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE THE BEST SUBBASE YOU CAN ON THAT ROAD? BECAUSE IF WE GET THAT GOOD SUB BASE, THAT ROAD IS GOING TO LAST A WHOLE LOT LONGER.
IS THERE CERTAIN STANDARDS THAT THEY HAVE TO ADHERE TO FOR COMPACTION, MATERIAL, OR WHATEVER TO KEEP THAT SUBBASE IN PLACE?
>> MAYOR POST, COUNCIL MEMBER KAI.
YES, WE HAVE ESTABLISHED MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS HOW THICK, IF YOU WILL, THAT ROADWAY NEEDS TO BE, INCLUSIVE OF THE BASE AND THE AC, THE ASPHALT LAYER.
HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS AS PART OF ALL THE PROJECTS, THEY DO SOME GEOTECH ANALYSIS, AND THEIR ENGINEER MAY COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE SOME BAD SOILS IN THIS AREA.
WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, WHETHER IT BE A CEMENT TREATMENT, WHETHER IT BE JUST THE THICKER AB BASE SECTION.
YES, WE DO HAVE THOSE IN PLACE.
>> THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO GET A GOOD SUB-BASE IN THERE FOR THE LONGEVITY OF THE ROAD.
>> CORRECT. I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING GOOD PRACTICES IN THAT REGARD.
>> THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES, AND I APOLOGIZE.
IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT, SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO RUN THROUGH THEM FAIRLY QUICK.
WE'VE RAN SOME ANALYSIS BASED ON SOME OF THE INFORMATION YOU'VE SEEN.
SO THIS IS OUR CARTEGRAPH OPENGOV REPORT THAT
>> THERE'S QUITE A BIT MORE INFORMATION.
WE JUST DID A SNIPPET OF SOME OF THE INFORMATION WE FELT WAS IDEAL FOR THIS CONVERSATION.
ONE THING I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT IS, AT THIS POINT, DON'T REALLY GET TOO TIED UP WITH THE NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AS FAR AS THE OCIS, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS ONE IS IDENTIFYING A $13.5 MILLION OVER THE FIVE YEARS, WHICH IS WHAT ZACH HAD MENTIONED, AS FAR AS THE STEADY STATE, AS WE CALL IT.
BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE NUMBERS AREN'T STRAIGHT, AND GETTING BACK TO MAYOR POST'S QUESTION ABOUT, YOU SEE A 2.2 AT THE BEGINNING, THEN A 2.5, AND THEN A 2.8, AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM, YOU SEE A 3.7.
THAT IS THE MODEL TAKING A LOOK AT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT VARIABLES THAT ZACH MENTIONED AND TRYING TO ACHIEVE THAT OCI OF MAINTAINING THAT 74.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE METRICS YOU'LL SEE IF WE RUN IT BASED OFF THE OCI BEING THE MITIGATING FACTOR. FIXED BUDGET.
THIS IS ONE THAT WE DIDN'T TALK TO ZACH ABOUT, JUST SOMETHING WE THREW OUT.
I'LL HIGHLIGHT A LITTLE BIT MORE ONCE WE GET THROUGH THESE SLIDES.
THIS ONE IS JUST SHOWING $2.25 MILLION FIGURE, AND AGAIN, ENDING OCI OF A 73.5 COMING DOWN FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY ABOUT A 74.6.
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AGAIN, ABOUT A ONE POINT DROP THAT WE SEE WITH THIS.THEN AGAIN, A VERY SIMILAR UTILIZING THE $2 MILLION A YEAR SCENARIO THAT IS THE ONE THAT WE ORIGINALLY WERE HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH RAZ AND WITH ZACH ABOUT, AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT HE UTILIZED FOR HIS PRESENTATION.
I DIDN'T HAVE THE HEART TO ASK HIM TO ADD ANYTHING MORE TO IT.
WE HAD ALREADY GONE BACK AND FORTH A BIT.
BUT AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT NUMBERS, A LOT ABOUT DOLLARS, SO IS THE BUDGET SET? DO YOU THINK WE'RE READY AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS WE TOLD YOU? I'M HERE TO TELL YOU NOT YET.
THERE'S ANOTHER ACTIVITY THAT WE DO THAT IS TIED TO PAVEMENT PRESERVATION, BUT IT'S THE YANG SANG HERO, IF YOU WILL. IT'S CRACK SEAL.
GETTING BACK TO THAT IMAGE THAT I TOLD YOU TO KEEP IN YOUR MIND WHEN YOU SAW THAT, CRACK SEAL WILL NOT ADD OR TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR OCI.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BUMP IT UP, IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE IT DOWN, BUT IF YOU DON'T DO CRACK SEAL, WHAT HAPPENS IS THEN YOU ALLOW WATER TO INTRUDE INTO THE ROADWAY, AND THEN YOU GET SOME OF THOSE LONGITUDINAL OR THOSE CRACKS THAT HAPPEN MAYBE FROM LOADING FROM VEHICLES.
BUT WHEN THOSE CRACKS OCCUR, THEN YOU GET THE WATER INFILTRATION, AND THEN YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH YOUR SUBGRADE.
AND THEN YOU SEE THE OTHER TYPE OF ITEMS OR ISSUES THAT OCCUR ON THE ROADWAY THAT ARE REALLY CONCERNING, AND THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY START TO HAVE PROBLEMS. THE ANALOGY I USE IS CRACK SEAL, AND I KNOW A LOT OF YOU KNOW SPORTS ANALOGY.
IT DOESN'T SHOW UP ON THE STAT SHEET, BUT IT'S THE DIVING FOR THE LOOSE BALL.
IT'S THE RUNNING BACK DOWN COURT ON DEFENSE.
IT'S THOSE THINGS THAT DON'T SHOW UP BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO, AND WE DO THAT WELL AS WELL, AND IT'S PART OF THE OVERALL PICTURE, BUT IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOWS UP WITH WHAT WE HAD ZACH LOOK AT.
WITH THAT, THIS NEXT SLIDE, IS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH WE'RE LOOKING AT IN CRACK SEAL AND HOW THAT ASSOCIATES WITH SOME OF THE DOLLAR FIGURES YOU'VE HEARD SPOKEN TONIGHT.
FOR A $2.7 MILLION BUDGET, AND THE CRACK SEAL NUMBERS WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT IN AS WE UTILIZE VERY RECENT DOLLARS THAT WE PAID IN THIS LAST YEAR, AS WE DID QUITE A BIT OF CRACK SEAL, AND WE DID OUTSOURCE THE CONTRACTORS.
THAT IS AN ACTIVITY THAT THEY CURRENTLY CAN DO A LOT BETTER THAN WE CAN, TO BE HONEST, JUST THE SHEER AMOUNT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN DO FAIRLY EASILY.
SO AGAIN, THE STEADY SATE OPTION AS YOU RECALL, WAS ABOUT A $2.7 MILLION FIGURE.
BUT THE ASSOCIATED AREA AND WHAT WE ESTIMATE WOULD BE NEEDED TO CRACK SEAL THAT AREA IS A TREATMENT, LET ME TAKE ANOTHER STEP BACK.
A TREATMENT YOU LIKE TO DO WITH CRACK SEAL IS, YOU WANT TO GET IN THERE TYPICALLY NINE MONTHS TO A YEAR IN FRONT OF WHEN YOU DO A PRESERVATION TREATMENT.
SOMETIMES YOU CAN GET UNLESS YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE DOING CRACK SEAL AND THEN GOING RIGHT ON TOP OF IT WITH A TREATMENT.
IDEALLY, YOU WANT TO LET THAT SET UP, IF YOU WILL FOR A TIME FRAME.
WE TRY TO CRACK SEAL IN THE FALL, WHAT WE'RE THEN GOING TO PRESERVE IN THE SPRING.
WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT IDEALLY LIKING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE CRACK SEALING A YEAR BEFORE AND THEN PRESERVING THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
THAT BEING SAID, WE KNOW WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE BOOKS AND LOOKING AT THE $2.7 MILLION FIGURE, THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT AN $800,000 CRACK SEAL, WHICH TOTALS ABOUT $3.5 MILLION.
THE BUDGET OPTIONS THAT I WENT THROUGH PREVIOUSLY, OR THE 2.5 ASSOCIATES TO ABOUT A $700,000 CRACK SEAL AND THAT GETS US INTO THE $3 MILLION RANGE.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAD RUN THE FIXED BUDGET WITH THE $2 MILLION FIGURE PREVIOUSLY.
WE TRULY BELIEVE THAT WHERE WE NEED TO BE LIES SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE FIXED BUDGET AND THE STEADY STATE TO MAINTAIN OUR OCI, WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE HOMEWORK TO DIAL THAT IN, BUT THAT IS THE PRICE POINT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT.
THAT WRAPS UP MY PRESENTATION.
[ Relating to Utilities; update, discussion, and possible direction regarding proposed changes to water and water reclamation rates and fees (Heidi Lasham)]
>> ITEM D 2, RELATING TO UTILITIES, UPDATE, DISCUSSION, AND POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING PROPOSED CHANGES TO WATER AND WATER RECLAMATION RATES AND FEE.
>> MISS LASH HEIDI, HOW ARE YOU?
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR POST AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
WE'RE HERE TODAY TO BRING TO YOU AN UPDATE AND ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE GATHERED WITH RAFTELIS FOR OUR RATE STUDY.
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I'M GOING TO START IT OFF, AND THEN I WILL PASS THE BATON OVER TO COLIN, AND HE'LL GIVE YOU ALL THE NITTY-GRITTY DETAILS THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT.AS FAR AS MORANA WATER, I DON'T KNOW WHY THE PICTURE'S NOT SHOWING UP AND THERE IT GOES. MY APOLOGIES.
SOME OF THE INFORMATION HERE IS ALL THE INFORMATION THAT ALL OF OUR FOLKS AND STAFF MAINTAIN, AND CONSULTANTS AS WELL.
WE HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED WATER MAIN MILES.
YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DETAILS THERE BETWEEN HYDRANTS AND MANHOLES, AND THEN WE HAVE ABOUT 13,000 WATER CUSTOMERS AND JUST SHY OF 8,000 WATER RECLAMATION CUSTOMERS.
THIS IS ALL OF OUR STAFF DEAL WITH THIS 24/7/365.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, STAFF ARE CALLED IN AND READY TO FIX WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.
ALL THAT'S DONE FOR LESS THAN TWO PENNIES PER GALLON.
A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. OUR LAST RATE STUDY THAT WE DID WAS BACK IN 2019.
IF EVERYBODY RECALLS THAT WAS WELL BEFORE THE PANDEMIC AND WELL BEFORE PRICES SKYROCKETED THROUGH THE ROOF.
THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE MADE WERE BETWEEN 2020 AND 2024.
THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR, WHILE WE WERE DOING THE RATE STUDY, THERE WAS NO RATE INCREASE AT THAT TIME.
THE RATE STUDY IS BASED ON PROJECTIONS OF OPERATING AS WELL AS CAPITAL EXPENSES.
AS YOU CAN TELL IT, WHAT I JUST SAID WITH EVERYTHING SKYROCKETING, WHERE WE ARE TODAY, WE CAN'T KEEP STATUS QUO AS IT'S NOT GOING TO COVER OUR EXPENSES FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
A BRIEF LOOK AHEAD, THE RECOMMENDATION WILL BE TO INCREASE WATER AND WATER RECLAMATION RATES FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.
INCREASING THOSE RATES, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS ALSO ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO BE VERY FAIR AND REASONABLE, JUST INCREASING RATES AND WE SCOURED THROUGH ALL OF OUR PROJECT COSTS AND MAINTENANCE COSTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SURE THAT THE RATES THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRODUCE AND GIVE TO YOU GUYS IS VERY FAIR AND REASONABLE TO DELIVER SAFE AND RELIABLE WATER TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS AND SUPPORT FOR NOT ONLY TODAY, BUT ALSO FOR THE FUTURE.
NOW I WILL HAND IT OVER TO COLIN RATZ WITH RAFTELIS TO GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS.
>> THANK YOU, HEIDI. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WATER AND WATER RECLAMATION RATES WITH YOU THIS EVENING.
JUST A BRIEF AGENDA, ROADMAP FOR MY PREPARED PRESENTATION.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE FINANCIAL PLAN FOR THE WATER AND WATER RECLAMATION UTILITIES, WHICH IS REALLY THE FOUNDATION FOR THE RATE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT OF NEXT STEPS.
IN TERMS OF A FINANCIAL PLAN, IT'S REALLY A MULTI YEAR FINANCIAL FORECAST OF BOTH EXPENSES AND REVENUE.
WHAT WE DO IS WE PROJECT OUT REVENUE.
IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, IF WE DON'T TAKE ANY ACTION ON RATES, STATUS QUO REVENUE, BASELINE REVENUE, AND WE'D EXPECT THAT TO INCREASE A LITTLE BIT YEAR OVER YEAR AS THE TOWN GROWS.
YOU'LL ADD ADDITIONAL CUSTOMERS, ADD ADDITIONAL USAGE.
WE PROJECT OUT THAT REVENUE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS AND THEN WE PROJECT EXPENSES, BOTH OPERATING EXPENSES AND CAPITAL EXPENSES.
THEN IN STEPS 3 AND 4, THERE WE'RE REALLY COMPARING THE TWO.
AS WE LOOK OUT AT OUR PROJECTION OF EXPENSES, COMPARE IT TO OUR PROJECTION OF REVENUES, OUR STATUS QUO REVENUES, ARE THEY SUFFICIENT TO COVER OUR COSTS, OR IS THERE A GAP THAT WE WOULD NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR WITH RATE ADJUSTMENTS? WE LOOK AT THE SUFFICIENCY OF EXISTING REVENUES TO COVER PROJECTED COSTS.
JUST SOME FACTORS TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT REVENUE SUFFICIENCY DISCUSSION.
DECLINING PER CAPITA DEMAND IS AN ISSUE, AND ALL THAT MEANS IS FOLKS ARE GETTING MORE EFFICIENT OVER TIME.
IF YOU BUY A NEW CLOTHES WASHER, YOU BUY A NEW DISHWASHER, IT'S GOING TO USE LESS WATER THAN THE LAST ONE.
IF YOU'VE GOT NEW CONSTRUCTION, IT'S GOT NEW FIXTURES.
THOSE ARE GOING TO USE LESS WATER.
OVER TIME, EVEN AS YOU GROW, ON A PER CUSTOMER BASIS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT PER CUSTOMER USAGE GO DOWN, SO THAT EATS INTO THE IMPACT OF GROWING AN ADDITIONAL USAGE REVENUE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, WE HAVE INFLATIONARY PRESSURES.
I'VE GOT A GRAPHIC TO DEMONSTRATE THIS IN A SECOND.
BUT WE'VE LIVED IN THIS TWO PERCENT WORLD PRE COVID FOR A LONG TIME WHERE INFLATION WAS RELATIVELY LOW AND THAT WE SAW A FAIRLY LARGE SPIKE IN INFLATION IN THE PAST FEW YEARS.
THEN THE LAST ONE IS REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS, SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS, AND IT'S MORE OF AN ISSUE ON THE WATER SIDE.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
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BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT IMPACT US AS WE DELIVER THE SERVICE.JUST IN TERMS OF THAT FIRST STEP, THE BASELINE REVENUE, AGAIN, THAT'S JUST PROJECTIONS UNDER EXISTING RATES.
IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE A FUNCTION OF ADDING CUSTOMERS, AND BY ADDING CUSTOMERS YOU'RE ADDING USAGE.
WE MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS ON THAT.
WE'VE GOTTEN SOME DETAILED PROJECTIONS OF ADDITIONAL CUSTOMERS.
IN TERMS OF ACCOUNT GROWTH, YOU CAN SEE THAT FOR WATER AND FOR WATER RECLAMATION.
WE'LL SEE SOME GROWTH IN ACCOUNTS OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
WE'VE GOT SOME ASSUMPTIONS LAID OUT UP THERE, AS WELL AS GROWTH AND USAGE.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DO EXPECT TO SEE SOME CONSERVATION SO THAT EVEN AS WE ADD ACCOUNTS, WE WON'T EXPECT USAGE TO GROW QUITE AS QUICKLY.
WE DO ASSUME A SLOWER GROWTH RATE IN USAGE RELATIVE TO ACCOUNTS.
AGAIN, THAT'S JUST CONSERVATION THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE TO OCCUR OVER TIME.
THIS GRAPHIC WILL BE BUILDING UP OVER THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, AND RIGHT NOW, THAT LINE JUST REPRESENTS THAT BASELINE REVENUE THAT I MENTIONED.
IF WE DON'T ADJUST RATES, WE WOULD EXPECT REVENUE TO INCREASE OVER TIME, JUST BASED ON ADDING ACCOUNTS AND ADDING ADDITIONAL USAGE.
AS WE GET INTO THE EXPENSE PROJECTIONS, JUST A RECENT HISTORY OF INFLATION, AS I MENTIONED THERE, LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET THE MOUSE TO COME IN HERE.
THIS IS CORE INFLATION, SO IT'S JUST THE CPIU THAT EVERYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH, EXCLUDING FOOD AND ENERGY, WHICH ARE THE MORE VOLATILE ELEMENTS OF INFLATION.
WE LIVED IN THIS 2-3 PERCENT WORLD PRE COVID.
THEN WE HAD THE COVID AND THE POST PANDEMIC RESPONSE, A LOT OF MONEY FLOWING INTO THE ECONOMY AND ALMOST EXPECTED IMPACT ON PRICES, SO THAT INCREASED PRICES SIGNIFICANTLY.
THE THING TO KEEP IN MIND AS YOU THINK ABOUT INFLATION IS IT IMPACTS THE INPUTS TO PROVIDING UTILITY SERVICE, JUST LIKE IT IMPACTS THE PRICE AT THE GROCERY STORE AND THAT SORT OF THING.
THE COST OF PROVIDING THE SERVICE IS IMPACTED BY INFLATION JUST LIKE CONSUMERS ARE IMPACTED BY INFLATION.
THEN JUST TO NOTE, WHEN WE DID THE PRIOR STUDY, WE WERE LIVING IN 2019 WORLD.
THIS IS WHEN THE SAME PRESENTATION WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE, YEAR OVER YEAR INFLATION WAS 2.1 PERCENT.
THEN YOU SEE AFTER THAT, THAT BIG SPIKE THAT I MENTIONED.
IN TERMS OF EXPENSE PROJECTIONS, WE START WITH YOUR BUDGET.
THAT'S THE COLLECTIVE WISDOM OF THE GROUP IN TERMS OF WHAT WE EXPECT TO SPEND THIS YEAR.
WE'RE REALLY PROJECTING FOR THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR AND THE YEARS BEYOND THAT.
WE DO MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS FOR SOME MAJOR CATEGORIES OF COST, PAYROLL, HEALTH INSURANCE, AS WELL AS VARIABLE COSTS.
AS WE ADD MORE CUSTOMERS, THERE ARE COSTS THAT WILL GROW IN A VARIABLE FASHION-BASED ON ADDITIONAL USAGE, AND THEN WE MAKE A GENERAL ASSUMPTION FOR THE SMALLER CATEGORIES OF COSTS.
IN ADDITION TO THOSE HIGH LEVEL INFLATION ASSUMPTIONS, WE WORK WITH STAFF TO DEVELOP MORE DETAILED FORECASTS IN TERMS OF INCREMENTAL COSTS.
AS THE SYSTEM GROWS, AS WE ADD CUSTOMERS, WE'LL NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL STAFF TO TAKE CARE OF THE LARGER SYSTEM, THE STAFF WILL NEED VEHICLES, AND THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL, CONTRACTED SERVICES RELATED TO BASICALLY SERVING MORE CUSTOMERS AS OPPOSED TO JUST THE COST OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM GOING UP.
JUST SOME DETAILS ON THAT, PROJECTIONS OF ADDITIONAL STAFF THERE.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE 13 NEW POSITIONS FROM 26-2030.
YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT BREAKS DOWN.
THOSE FOLKS WILL NEED VEHICLES TO GET AROUND IN.
THAT'S INCLUDED IN THERE AS WELL.
THE OTHER THING THAT YOU'LL NEED IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT THAT YOU NEED TO DO THE WORK OF MAINTAINING THE WATER AND WATER RECLAMATION SYSTEM.
YOU CAN SEE A LIST OF CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT THERE AS WELL AS VACUUM TRUCK, CAMERA VAN, FOR INSPECTING A SEWER SYSTEM.
WE'LL ALSO NEED ADDITIONAL TESTING FOR WATER QUALITY, AGAIN, AS WE EXPAND THE SYSTEM ADD ADDITIONAL WELLS, ADDITIONAL TREATMENT, WE'LL NEED TO DO ADDITIONAL TESTING AS WELL AS CONTRACTED SERVICES.
ALL THESE GO BEYOND JUST THE COST OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE OVER TIME.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE SYSTEM'S GROWING.
IT'S REALLY BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
IT'S GROWING SYSTEM AS WELL AS INFLATION
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I'M JUST GOING TO HIGHLIGHT SOME PROJECTS HERE, METER REPLACEMENTS AND UV MAINTENANCE.SO, METER REPLACEMENTS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CERTAINLY NEED TO KEEP UP WITH IN ORDER TO CORRECTLY MEASURE THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT OUR CUSTOMERS USE AND BUILD THEM ACCURATELY.
IT CAN ALSO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE SYSTEM IS FUNCTIONING.
AND IT CAN PROVIDE CUSTOMERS WITH INFORMATION AS WELL.
YOU CAN SEE A GRAPHIC THERE OF SOME INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN GET IN TERMS OF USAGE.
UV MAINTENANCE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE, SO THAT'S JUST PART OF THE TREATMENT PROCESS.
AND THAT SYSTEM HAS TO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ASPECTS OF THAT SYSTEM HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED OVER TIME.
THESE ARE JUST THINGS WE NEED TO BUDGET FOR ANNUALLY THAT'LL COME AROUND.
NEXT STEP ON THE GRAPHIC THERE, WE'VE ADDED IN EXPENSES.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE BARS ARE THE OPERATING EXPENSES RELATIVE TO THE REVENUE, AND YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE START TO EMERGE IN TERMS OF THAT REVENUE SUFFICIENCY QUESTION I MENTIONED EARLIER.
ON THE WATER SIDE, WE DO GET TO A POINT 27 AND BEYOND, WHERE THERE IS A BIT OF A GAP.
FOR RECLAMATION, THERE'S A LITTLE MORE ROOM UNDER CURRENT REVENUES IN TERMS OF COVERING COSTS.
BUT YOU DO SEE THAT THAT'S IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE, AND ON THE WATER SIDE, THAT'S WHERE THAT GAP STARTS TO EMERGE THERE.
IN TERMS OF CAPITAL EXPENSES, THOSE ARE JUST THAT'S AN INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE A LONG TIME, THAT'S NECESSARY TO DELIVER THE SERVICE.
THOSE ARE OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS FROM OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
RATES ARE THE SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR EXISTING CUSTOMERS.
WE DO HAVE THIS DELINEATION BETWEEN PROJECTS THAT ARE FOR EXISTING CUSTOMERS OR PORTIONS OF PROJECTS THAT ARE FOR EXISTING CUSTOMERS, OR PROJECTS THAT ARE GROWTH-RELATED OR PORTIONS OF PROJECTS THAT ARE GROWTH-RELATED.
AND THE GROWTH-RELATED PROJECTS HAVE A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE IN OUR IMPACT FEES.
IN TERMS OF THE WAY THAT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS IMPACT THE RATES, THERE'S REALLY TWO WAYS TO FINANCE THEM.
IT'S SORT OF LIKE, IF YOU MAKE A MAJOR PURCHASE AT HOME, YOU CAN PAY CASH OR YOU CAN INCUR DEBT TO FINANCE IT.
WE HAVE ANNUAL CASH OUTLAYS THAT NEED TO BE FUNDED BY THE RATES, AS WELL AS PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON ANY DEBT-FINANCED PROJECTS.
AND REALLY, IN TERMS OF DETERMINING THAT IMPACT, WE DEVELOP WHAT WE CALL A CIP FINANCING PLAN.
WE JUST LOOK AT THE PROJECTS, IDENTIFY WHAT'S THE PRIMARY FUNDING SOURCE? IS IT GOING TO BE RATES, IMPACT FEES? WE HAVE SOME GRANT-FUNDED PROJECTS.
AND THEN FOR THOSE THAT GO INTO THE RATES, IS IT GOING TO BE CASH-FUNDED OR DEBT-FUNDED IN ORDER TO DETERMINE THAT IMPACT? THERE'S ANOTHER HIGHLIGHT HERE, WELL, REHABILITATION AND RESERVOIR REHABILITATION.
ALL OF THESE ITEMS GET INSPECTED ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND THEN WE'VE GOT MONEY BASICALLY IN THE BUDGET TO REHABILITATE THEM AS NEEDED.
AND THEN THERE'S A PICTURE OF SOME SERVICE LINES HERE.
THESE ARE THE LINES FROM THE MAIN TO THE HOUSE.
THESE ARE CUSTOMER SERVICE LINES, AND THESE, AGAIN, THERE'S MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO KIND OF REPLACE THEM AS NEEDED, AND THAT'S REALLY IDENTIFYING WHERE WE MAY BE HAVING ISSUES IN TERMS OF SERVICE LINES AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S BUDGET TO ADDRESS THEM BECAUSE THEY DO LAST A LONG TIME, BUT THEY DON'T LAST FOREVER, SO THEY WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED, AND THAT'S FACTORED IN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
IN TERMS OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS, IT REALLY RELATES TO THE WELLS AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE IMPROVEMENTS IN PLACE TO ADDRESS PFAS.
THIS IS A RELATIVELY NEW ISSUE, NOT THAT NEW, BUT NEW RELATIVE TO THE LAST STUDY.
IF YOU PUT YOURSELF AGAIN BACK IN 2019, IT SORT OF HAVE MORE ADVISORY INFORMATION.
IT'S NOT YET A REGULATED CONTAMINANT.
AND THAT COMES WITH SIGNIFICANT COST IMPLICATIONS, CERTAINLY FOR OUR WELLS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THOSE STANDARDS.
YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN THERE FOR THE WELLS, AS WELL AS THE COST.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING I'D HIGHLIGHT, TOO, IS JUST THE BREAKDOWN OF IMPACT FEE FUNDING VERSUS RATE FUNDING.
SO WE DO LOOK ON A PROJECT-BY-PROJECT BASIS AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT'S THE TOTAL CAPACITY OF THE PROJECT? HOW MUCH IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR FUTURE GROWTH THAT CAN BE SET ASIDE FOR IMPACT FEES? ALL THOSE PROJECTS ARE SPLIT, AND IN FACT, THAT FIRST ONE IT'S A NEW PROJECT FOR NEW GROWTH, SO IT'S ALL IMPACT FEE TO BE FUNDED, BUT YOU CAN SEE THEM ON THE LIST THERE.
WE DO BREAK THAT FUNDING SOURCE OUT.
AND THEN JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS ON THE RECLAMATION SIDE,
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MANHOLE REHABILITATION, INSPECTING CLEANING OF SEWER LINES, AND LIFT STATION REHABILITATION.SO IT'S REALLY JUST MAKING SURE THAT THOSE COMPONENTS OF THE RECLAMATION SYSTEM ARE WORKING, THAT MANHOLES ARE MAINTAINED IN A CONDITION THAT ALLOWS STAFF TO ACCESS THEM SAFELY, AS WELL AS JUST DOING THE MAINTENANCE THAT'S NEEDED IN TERMS OF THE SEWER LINES.
NOW WE'VE GOT CAPITAL COSTS LAYERED IN THERE.
YOU CAN SEE IN THE DARK BLUE, WE HAVE THE OPERATING THAT I ALLUDED TO BEFORE, AND THEN THE LIGHT BLUE AND THE GREEN, WE'VE LAYERED IN PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS ON ADDITIONAL DEBT FUNDING FOR SOME OF THOSE LARGER PROJECTS, AS WELL AS SOME PAY-GO IN THERE.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE, KIND OF ON THE WATER SIDE, ON THE LEFT-HAND GRAPH, THAT GAP HAS REALLY EXPANDED AS YOU LAYER IN CAPITAL PROJECTS.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE, WHERE WE WERE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE COVERING OUR OPERATING COSTS.
YOU DO SEE KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF A GAP ON THE RECLAMATION SIDE AS WE LAYER IN CAPITAL COSTS.
JUST IN TERMS OF THE DRIVERS, THIS IS JUST A REPRESENTATION OF THE INCREASE OVER THE YEARS.
ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF EACH GRAPH, THAT'S TODAY'S EXPENSES, AND ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, WHERE IT SAYS 2030 EXPENSES, THOSE ARE THE PROJECTED EXPENSES IN 2030.
SO IF WE GO FROM YEAR ONE TO YEAR FIVE, WHAT'S DRIVING THE INCREASE? YOU CAN SEE ON THE WATER SIDE, IT IS A GOOD MIX OF CAPITAL OF OPERATING COSTS, AS I MENTIONED, BUT ALSO SIGNIFICANT ON THE CAPITAL SIDE FOR SOME OF THOSE LARGER PROJECTS.
WHEREAS ON THE RECLAMATION SIDE, THE NEEDS REALLY AREN'T AS GREAT.
AND I DIDN'T MENTION THIS EARLIER.
THE BIG PROJECT ON THE RECLAMATION SIDE IS THE RECLAMATION FACILITY, BUT SINCE THAT'S AN EXPANSION, THAT'S AN IMPACT FEE-FUNDED PROJECT.
IF YOU TAKE THAT OUT OF THE EQUATION, THERE'S REALLY NOT A LARGE CAPITAL DRIVER ON THE RECLAMATION SIDE.
JUST IN TERMS OF OBSERVATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THE CURRENT REVENUES ARE NOT SUFFICIENT TO COVER THE PROJECTED EXPENSES OVER THE FIVE YEARS.
WE DO HAVE A GOOD CASH POSITION, WHICH IS THE FUNDING AVAILABLE IN THE FUNDS ALREADY.
THE IDEA WOULD BE, LET'S SMOOTH INTO THOSE ADJUSTMENTS OVER TIME, EVEN IF IN THE INTERIM, THERE MAY BE DEFICITS, AND ESSENTIALLY USE SOME OF THAT CASH TO HELP SMOOTH INTO THOSE ADJUSTMENTS.
JUST IN TERMS OF AN OVERALL RECOMMENDATION, WATER IS REALLY WHERE THE NEED IS.
THAT'S WHERE WE'D SEE A LARGER RECOMMENDED ADJUSTMENT OF ABOUT 10.5% PER YEAR.
RECLAMATION, I'D SAY THAT'S MORE INFLATIONARY, 2.5% PER YEAR.
AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT A CUSTOMER THAT HAS BOTH SERVICES, ON A COMBINED BILL.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT MORE LIKE SIX TO 7% A YEAR, AND THAT'S MOST CUSTOMERS.
SO THIS IS JUST THAT SAME GRAPHIC WITH THE REVENUE INCREASES IN THERE.
SO REALLY, WE'RE JUST WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE BY THE END, FUNDING THE EXPENSES.
THIS IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE IMPACT I ALLUDED TO EARLIER.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT WATER USAGE, MAYBE ABOUT 50 GALLONS PER PERSON PER DAY, THAT'S ABOUT TYPICAL INDOOR USAGE.
FOR A HOUSEHOLD OF FOUR, THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 6,000 GALLONS OF INDOOR AGE.
IF YOU INCLUDE SOME LIMITED OUTDOOR USAGE, THAT GETS YOU TO ABOUT 7,000 GALLONS.
SO THAT'S SORT OF A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL USER.
THE IMPACT OF OF THAT FIRST YEAR, YOU KNOW, JANUARY 1 OF THIS UPCOMING YEAR IS ABOUT 6.5% OR A LITTLE UNDER $7.
EVEN THOUGH ON THE WATER SIDE, IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER ON THE RECLAMATION SIDE, IT'S MUCH LOWER.
YOU HAVE AN AVERAGE IMPACT OF ABOUT 6% TO 7% A YEAR, WHICH, LOOKING NATIONWIDE, IS FAIRLY TYPICAL.
I MEAN, MOST UTILITIES ARE DEALING WITH ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE HIGHER THAN HISTORICAL INFLATION, MAYBE MORE IN LINE WITH RECENT INFLATION THAT WE'VE SEEN.
AND THEN HEIDI ALLUDED TO THE COST PER GALLON.
THAT'S THE LESS THAN TWO PENNIES PER GALLON FOR THE SERVICE.
GETS UP TO JUST ABOUT OVER TWO PENNIES PER GALLON BY THE END.
COMPARISON WITH SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES THERE.
YOU CAN SEE US ON NEAR THE BOTTOM OF THE CHART EXISTING AND PROPOSED FOR THAT FIRST YEAR.
I THINK MOST OF THESE HAVE DONE THEIR ADJUSTMENTS FOR THIS YEAR.
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BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVEN'T DONE ANY IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, TOO.I WOULD ANTICIPATE THERE'LL BE SOME CATCH-UP WITH A FEW OF THESE.
I THINK THE THING TO KEEP IN MIND WITH THESE COMPARISONS IS THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT DRIVE THEM.
ONE OF THEM IS SCALE, SO YOU'D EXPECT A LARGER COMMUNITY ON AVERAGE TO HAVE A LOWER COST FOR CUSTOMER BECAUSE THERE ARE ECONOMIES OF SCALE WITH HAVING A MUCH LARGER SYSTEM.
SO IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME TO SEE TUCSON OR CHANDLER UP NEAR THE TOP OF THAT LIST.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS JUST EVERYONE FUNDS THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
HERE, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT ENTERPRISE FUND, LIKE MAKING SURE THAT THESE FUNDS ARE SELF-SUFFICIENT, THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING SUBSIDIZED, THE GENERAL FUND HAS ITS PIECE.
DEPENDING ON THAT RELATIONSHIP IN SOME OF THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SORT OF IN RANGE, EVEN AS YOU LOOK KIND OF IN THOSE OTHER COMMUNITIES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOME OF THE REALLY ONES AT THE LOWER END OR SOME OF THE MUCH LARGER ONES.
JUST IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT TO CUSTOMERS AND WAYS THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ELEMENTS TO THAT.
I THINK ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT TYPICALLY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HELP THE CUSTOMERS THAT NEED HELP, WHICH MEANS GENERALLY SPEAKING, GET THE RATES TO THE LEVEL THEY NEED TO BE.
AND THEN IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC ASSISTANCE THAT'S NEEDED FOR CUSTOMERS THAT MAY NEED ASSISTANCE, HELP THEM DIRECTLY, AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO KEEP THE RATES LOW TO HELP THOSE CUSTOMERS AND ALL THE CUSTOMERS.
TYPICALLY, WHAT WE'D RECOMMEND IS MORE TARGETED ASSISTANCE, WHETHER IT'S HELP FROM A BLOCK GRANT OR PAYMENT PLANS FOR CERTAIN CUSTOMERS.
AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER CONCEPTS THAT WE DON'T YET DO HERE, BUT THAT ARE EMPLOYED IN OTHER PLACES, LIKE ROUND-UP PROGRAMS THAT CAN BE USED TO FUND CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, OR EVEN BUDGET BILLING, WHICH JUST KEEPS THE BILL LEVEL FOR CUSTOMERS, AND THAT CAN MAKE IT MORE PREDICTABLE.
MAYBE YOU'D HAVE 11 MONTHS AT ONE LEVEL AND THEN YOU TR UP IN THE 12TH MONTH FOR ANY DIFFERENCE.
JUST IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH AS WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE HERE TODAY, CERTAINLY TO GET ANY FEEDBACK, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PROPOSAL.
AND THEN YOU SEE THE REST OF THE STEPS THERE, NOTICE OF INTENT TO INCREASE, AS WELL AS SOME OUTREACH MEETING.
WE WILL BE HAVING OUTREACH WITH THE COMMUNITY TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS AS WELL.
THOSE ARE ON THE SCHEDULE IN PLACES IN THOSE TWO ELEMENTS THERE, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING FALLS OUT JUST IN TERMS OF THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AND THE ADOPTION AS WELL.
AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D NOTE ON THIS SLIDE IS THE RATES WOULD BE EFFECTIVE ON FEBRUARY 6 IF WE ARE IN LINE WITH THIS SCHEDULE.
WE DO IT IN THE WINTER BECAUSE THAT'S THE LEAST IMPACTFUL TIME TO DO IT.
A LOT OF FOLKS WILL DO JULY 1 IMPLEMENTATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S THE START OF THEIR FISCAL YEAR, AND FRANKLY, IT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO DO IT THAT WAY.
BUT WE DO LIKE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE IMPACT AND DO IT WHEN USAGE IS LOWEST.
SO TYPICALLY, WE'LL DO IT IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY IMPLEMENTATION.
SO THAT, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE HAS.
>> WELL, THANK YOU, COLIN. THAT WAS A GOOD PRESENTATION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER KAVANAGH?
>> WELL, YOU REALLY MAKE A BIG YOU KNOW, YOU TELL US WHY WE NEED TO INCREASE THE RATES AND THE RATE INCREASE FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR IS LESS THAN $7 A MONTH, RIGHT?
>> NOT BAD. YOU CAN PROBABLY, PEOPLE LIKE TO PLAY A LITTLE GAME, I'M NOT GOING TO PAY THAT SEVEN.
I'M GOING TO CONSERVE MORE TO BEAT THE SEVEN.
THERE'S MANY WAYS WE CAN DO IT.
BUT I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.
AND SO, WE PROVIDE GOOD WATER.
WE HAVE RELIABLE WATER, CLEAN WATER IN MORANA.
AND WE INVEST A LOT IN PFOS REMEDIATION, ET CETERA.
I THINK I THINK WHAT YOU DID WAS PRESENT A VERY STRONG PRESENTATION ON THE NEED.
AND REALLY, THE PRICE IS REASONABLE. THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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>> WE DO NOT NEED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION?
>>ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'M ADJOURNED.
>> THANK YOU.
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