[ CALL TO THE PUBLIC At this time any member of the public is allowed to address the Town Council on any issue within the jurisdiction of the Town Council, except for items scheduled for a Public Hearing at this meeting. The speaker may have up to three minutes to speak. Any persons wishing to address the Council must complete a speaker card and deliver it to the Town Clerk. Individuals addressing a meeting at the Call to the Public will not be provided with electronic technology capabilities beyond the existing voice amplification and recording capabilities in the facilities. Pursuant to the Arizona Open Meeting Law, at the conclusion of Call to the Public, individual members of the Council may respond to criticism made by those who have addressed the Council, and may ask staff to review the matter, or may ask that the matter be placed on a future agenda.]

JURISDICTION OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, EXCEPT FOR ITEMS SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS MEETING.

THE SPEAKER MAY HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

ANY PERSON WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL MUST COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD AND DELIVER IT TO THE TOWN CLERK.

WE WILL GO AHEAD AND DO THE NORMAL 30 MINUTES.

JILL, WOULD YOU CALL THE FIRST NAME, PLEASE? YES, MR. MAYOR. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS DONNA FINE, FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL ROTHENBERG.

OH, I LOVE IT, TOO. I THINK IT'S GREAT, I LOVE IT.

WHAT A NEAT DEAL.

MY APOLOGIES. HOW IS THAT? BETTER. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AT THE PREVIOUS TOWN COUNCIL MEETINGS, I'VE HEARD MULTIPLE MENTIONS TO THE EFFECT OF DON'T LISTEN TO THE FOLKS ON THE LEFT. WHEN I HEAR LABELS LIKE THAT, I HAVE TO ASK, WHAT IS THAT PERSON TRYING TO DISTRACT ME FROM? STAYING SAFE. KEEPING MY FAMILY AND CHILDREN SAFE.

NOT WANTING TO SUBJECT THEM TO BEING TEAR GASSED OR MURDERED.

THAT'S NOT A LEFT OR RIGHT ISSUE WHEN THOSE THINGS HAPPEN.

LABELS DON'T HELP. IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE THE STEPS BEFORE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN, BEFORE SOMEONE GETS HURT.

WHEN IT COMES TO STAYING SAFE AND KEEPING MY FAMILY SAFE, IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAT I CAN FOCUS ON THAT INSTEAD OF LABELS.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT WHAT HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED, TO GET AN IDEA AS TO HOW WE MIGHT BE IMPACTED.

WITH A DETENTION CENTER IN THE TOWN, THERE WILL BE MORE ICE ACTIVITY IN THE AREA THAT MAKES THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN HAPPENING WITH ICE AND FEDERAL AGENTS VERY RELEVANT. WHEN TEAR GAS IS RELEASED IN AN AREA WHERE TODDLERS MIGHT BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE IMPACTED LABELS DON'T CHANGE THAT IMPACT. THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE STATED, WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF-EVIDENT, THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, THAT AMONG THESE ARE LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. THAT STATEMENT DOES NOT CONTAIN AN EXCEPT CLAUSE.

WHAT ICE IS DOING CERTAINLY SEEMS TO GO AGAINST THAT.

I WANT EVERY PERSON'S INALIENABLE RIGHTS TO BE UPHELD.

A FEW WEEKS AGO, A FRIEND I'VE HAD FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS CALLED ME WITH GREAT CONCERN AND WORRY.

HER FATHER WAS A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR. HE WROTE A BOOK ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE.

ALL THE REST OF HER FAMILY ON HER FATHER'S SIDE DIED IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DURING THE HOLOCAUST.

SHE GREW UP HEARING ABOUT THOSE EXPERIENCES. HER WORDS WERE, IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER AGAIN.

SHE TALKED ABOUT THE PLACES BEING PURCHASED BY ICE TO CREATE MORE DETENTION CENTERS, THE HUGE ONES.

SHE SPOKE OF MANY OTHER PARALLELS THAT SHE SAW.

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YES, SHE WAS HORRIFIED. AND SHE, THE DAUGHTER OF A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR, SAID IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER AGAIN.

HER FATHER IS NO LONGER ALIVE, BUT I KNEW HIM PERSONALLY AND OUR FAMILY CELEBRATED MULTIPLE HOLIDAYS TOGETHER.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO WORK TOGETHER TOWARD SOLUTIONS.

BUT WHEN WE IGNORE TRUTHS, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS FOR EITHER.

SINCE SOMEONE HAS CONTINUED TO BRING UP THE COMPARISON, I HAVE TO WONDER IF THE OPINIONS OF SOMEONE LIKE MY FRIEND IS BEING CALLED NOT VALID, THAN WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE THAT COMPARISON.

WHEN SOMEONE'S SAFETY IS THREATENED, DOES THE MARANA TOWN COUNCIL REALLY WANT THE RESPONSE TO BE THAT THEIR HANDS ARE TIED THAT YOU ARE POWERLESS.

[APPLAUSE] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL ROTHENBERG, FOLLOWED BY HATTIE MATHERS. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL ROTHENBERG, AND I'M HERE AS A MARANA RESIDENT WHO CARES DEEPLY ABOUT THE VALUES OF THIS COMMUNITY.

I'M ASKING YOU TO RECONSIDER YOUR SILENCE ON THE PROPOSED ICE DETENTION FACILITY, NOT AS A POLITICAL ISSUE, BUT AS A HUMAN ONE. OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, SOMETHING DEEPLY TROUBLING HAS HAPPENED IN OUR COUNTRY.

IN 2025, 33 PEOPLE DIED IN ICE CUSTODY, THE HIGHEST NUMBER IN MORE THAN 20 YEARS THAT'S NEARLY TRIPLE THE NUMBER FROM THE YEAR BEFORE.

AND ALREADY IN 2026, 13 MORE PEOPLE HAVE DIED, PUTTING THIS YEAR ON TRACK TO EXCEED LAST YEAR'S RECORD NUMBER.

THESE ARE NOT JUST STATISTICS. THEY INCLUDE PEOPLE WHO DIED AFTER REPORTING CHEST PAINS, PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T RECEIVE TIMELY MEDICAL CARE, AND EVEN YOUNG DETAINEES WHO DIED BY SUICIDE.

INSPECTIONS HAVE REVEALED SERIOUS PROBLEMS, INCLUDING VIOLATIONS IN MEDICAL CARE, SAFETY AND THE USE OF FORCE INSIDE DETENTION FACILITIES.

AT THE SAME TIME AS THESE DEATHS ARE RISING, DETENTION IS EXPANDING RAPIDLY.

MORE PEOPLE ARE BEING HELD, OFTEN IN OVERCROWDED SITUATIONS, AND OVERSIGHT HAS NOT KEPT PACE.

WHEN DEATHS INCREASE AT THE SAME TIME A SYSTEM EXPANDS THAT IS NOT A COINCIDENCE THAT IS A WARNING SIGN.

WE HAVE TO ASK A SIMPLE QUESTION DO WE WANT MARANA TO BECOME PART OF A SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE ARE DYING AT RECORD LEVELS? BECAUSE ONCE THAT FACILITY GOES ONLINE, WE ARE NO LONGER OBSERVERS.

WE ARE OUR PARTICIPANTS. AND THIS CONCERN EXTENDS BEYOND THE DETENTION WALLS.

THERE HAVE BEEN MANY FATAL ENCOUNTERS INVOLVING ICE OPERATIONS.

THE MOST PROMINENT OF THOSE BEING RENEE GOOD AND ALEX PRETTI IN MINNESOTA.

BUT THERE'S BEEN MANY OTHERS. WHETHER ONE AGREES WITH IMMIGRATION POLICY OR NOT, THE UNNECESSARY LOSS OF LIFE, WHETHER IN CUSTODY OR IN PUBLIC, SHOULD CONCERN ALL OF US.

I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO SOLVE THE IMMIGRATION POLICY TONIGHT.

I'M ASKING YOU TO END YOUR SILENCE AND DRAW A LINE.

ARE YOU FOR THE DETENTION FACILITY OR AGAINST IT? I UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THE FACT THAT YOUR HANDS ARE TIED TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

BUT SURELY YOU MUST HAVE A POSITION ON THE ISSUE.

WHEN A SYSTEM IS EXPERIENCING RECORD DEATHS, DOCUMENTED VIOLATIONS, AND GROWING NATIONAL CONCERN, THE RESPONSIBLE ACTION IS NOT TO STAY SILENT WHILE IT EXPANDS INTO YOUR JURISDICTION.

IT'S TO TAKE A STAND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS HATTIE MATHERS, FOLLOWED BY MARY ROEMER.

HELLO, MY NAME IS HATTIE MATHERS, AND I'M AN EDUCATOR.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? I HAVE A LOUD VOICE BECAUSE I'VE SPENT MY ENTIRE LIFE WORKING WITH CHILDREN, AND THAT'S WHO I CARE ABOUT, TO BE HONEST. AND I HEARD ABOUT THIS.

I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT IT BEFORE. AND WHEN I HEARD ABOUT IT, I WAS AT CHURCH AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IT.

MY VERY FIRST THOUGHT WAS, FOR YEARS, MY LITTLE KIDS WERE ALL WALKING AROUND WITH THESE LITTLE BRACELETS AND THEY SAID, WWJD WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? SO I'M ASKING YOU, WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? I CAN'T BELIEVE FOR A MINUTE THAT JESUS WOULD PUT PEOPLE IN A PRISON.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT ANY OF YOU REALLY WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS.

AND I'M REALLY SAD. AS AN EDUCATOR, I'M HEARTBROKEN.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORK WITH MY KIDS. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT GROWN UPS ARE DOING NOW.

AND I'M NOT HATEFUL. I DON'T HATE YOU. I DON'T HATE ANYONE.

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I JUST WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARY ROEMER, FOLLOWED BY COLIN MELLORS. GOOD EVENING.

I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT MY FRIEND SHARON DALLAS PARKS.

SHE'S A RESEARCHER, AN ETHICIST, AND A THEOLOGIAN FORMERLY WITH HARVARD BUSINESS SCHOOL.

SHE WAS BROUGHT IN AFTER THE IVAN BOESKY SCANDAL TO TRY TO TEACH ETHICS.

SHE DID RESEARCH ON FINDING OUT WHAT'S A COMMON TRAIT FOR LEADERS WHO ARE COMMITTED TO THE COMMON GOOD? AND SHE FOUND ONE. EMPATHY. EMPATHY FOR THOSE OUTSIDE THE LEADER'S CIRCLE OF ACQUAINTANCE.

EACH OF YOU CHOSE TO RUN FOR OFFICE. WHY? IS IT YOUR INTENTION TO WORK ON BEHALF OF THE COMMON GOOD OF THE PEOPLE OF MARANA AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES? FOR WHOM DO YOU FEEL EMPATHY? FOR WHOM ARE YOU WILLING TO ACT TO LEAD? I SEE THAT MARANA SCHOOLS HAVE THOSE BEAUTIFUL MOSAICS.

BE KIND. WHY? WHY DO WE WANT OUR CHILDREN TO KNOW ABOUT THE STRENGTH OF KINDNESS? ANOTHER NAME FOR EMPATHY. SIMPLY BECAUSE WE DEPEND UPON EACH OTHER'S KINDNESS IN ORDER TO SURVIVE AS A HUMAN COMMUNITY. AMERIKAN INDIVIDUALISM IS A FALSE MYTH.

I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF STUDYING WITH A WORLD CLASS SCRIPTURE SCHOLAR, THE PARABLES OF JESUS OF NAZARETH.

AND IN HIS PARABLE, THE GOOD SAMARITAN. JESUS INTENDED FOR THE PEOPLE HEARING HIS PROCLAMATION TO SEE THEMSELVES AS THE INJURED PERSON IN THE DITCH NEEDING RESCUE.

HE FLIPPED IT. THEY HEARD THAT THEY WERE IN NEED OF SAVING, PERHAPS EVEN BY AN ENEMY.

CAN YOU IMAGINE YOURSELF IN SUCH A DITCH? WOUNDED? THE ICE ROUND UPS YOU KNOW WELL ARE CONSISTENTLY ABDUCTING PEOPLE RANDOMLY, DESPITE THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS DESPITE THEIR EFFORTS TO GO THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESSES. THIS IS CRUEL.

IT IS RACIST. IT IS BLATANTLY AGAINST OUR CONSTITUTION.

CRUEL AND VIOLENT DETENTIONS WILL FILL A PROPOSED FACILITY IN MARANA, AND I INVITE EACH OF YOU TO CHOOSE TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY ON THIS TOWN COUNCIL.

YOU EACH WEAR THE HAT OF RESPONSIBILITY. I FULLY REJECT THE PERCEPTION THAT THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE. IT IS YOUR DUTY TO PROTECT THE MOST VULNERABLE OF OUR COMMUNITY, TO STAND UP AND LEAD ON BEHALF OF THE COMMON GOOD.

PLEASE DO YOUR DUTY. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] NEXT SPEAKER IS COLIN MELLORS, FOLLOWED BY KIMBERLY MCALLISTER.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY DISAPPOINTMENT IN HOW THE DATA CENTER ADVOCACY WORK THAT I'VE BEEN DOING HAS BEEN PORTRAYED BY MEMBERS OF THIS BODY ON SOCIAL MEDIA. THIS IS NOT MANUFACTURED CONTROVERSY, OPINION OR CONJECTURE THAT HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY CALLED.

THIS IS THE REAL WORLD ENGINEERING CONSEQUENCES OF THE DECISIONS THAT THE GROUP HAS MADE.

WHAT I HAVE PROPOSED IS BASED ON FUNDAMENTAL SCIENCE, ESTABLISHED DESIGN PARADIGMS AND USE ON THESE FACILITIES, AND THE FAILURES OF OTHER REGULATORY FRAMEWORKS TO PROTECT RESIDENTS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.

JUST AS THE CURRENT FRAMEWORK HERE WILL FAIL TO PROTECT RESIDENTS CRITICAL LOCATIONS SUCH AS THE CEMETERY AND THE TOWN ITSELF.

TO BRING THIS INTO TIGHTER FOCUS, THE FACILITIES APPROVED FOR REZONING REQUIRE THE POWER EQUIVALENT TO THAT OF THE CITY OF BOSTON.

HOW THEY ARE POWERED, WHERE THE POWER COMES FROM, HOW IT IS DELIVERED AND WHERE THOSE DELIVERY LINES ARE LOCATED ARE ALL MATERIAL QUESTIONS CURRENTLY LEFT UNANSWERED. IT ISN'T CONJECTURE THAT A SINGLE 750 MEGAWATT LOAD IN THE UNITED STATES IS DELIVERED VIA ABOVE GROUND 765 KVA POWER DISTRIBUTION TOWERS, TYPICALLY 150 TO 180FT IN THE AIR.

WHERE WILL THEY GO AND WHOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WILL HAVE BEAUTIFUL VIEWS OF THEM IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.

THE SOUND PROFILE OF THESE FACILITIES, UNLIKE THE PATENTLY FALSE INFORMATION REPEATEDLY SHARED ONLINE,

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PRODUCES NOISE THAT IN NO WAY REFLECTS THAT OF I10 AND AUTOMOTIVE TRAFFIC.

I SUBMITTED SOUND PROFILES FOR THESE FACILITIES AND THE SCIENCE BEHIND THEM, INCLUDING THE ISSUES THEY POSED, ESPECIALLY IN OUR LOCAL CLIMATE. THE SOUND FREQUENCY SOUND IS LOW FREQUENCY, FELT AND HEARD, INCREDIBLY DISRUPTIVE, AND TRAVELS DISTANCES FAR GREATER THAN THOSE OF THE AUDIBLE NOISE PRODUCED BY TYPICAL INDUSTRIAL AND AUTOMOTIVE TRAFFIC.

THE FUNDAMENTAL MISUNDERSTANDING OF THIS TECHNOLOGY, HOW IT WORKS, THE IMPACTS OF THE CHOICES MADE IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE DIRECTLY PUTS RESIDENTS IN THE WAY OF THIS ISSUE. BEING IGNORANT OF THE SCIENCE DOESN'T PREVENT THE PROBLEM FROM OCCURRING, AND TELLING PEOPLE IT'S CONJECTURE IS DISINGENUOUS AT BEST.

BEYOND THIS, MY FUTURE WORK IS FOCUSING ON UNDERSTANDING LOCALIZED HEAT PROFILES, SPECIFICALLY IMPACTING THE VETERANS CEMETERY.

AT THEIR HEART, THESE FACILITIES ARE HIGHLY EFFICIENT, SUPER CONCENTRATED SPACE HEATERS WITH EVERY WATT OF DELIVERED POWER CONVERTING INTO HEAT.

THIS COMPRESSES THAT POWER DELIVERY TO BOSTON INTO AN AREA 2% THE SIZE OF THAT CITY.

AS SEEN IN WORK BY CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY, LOCALIZED TEMPERATURE INCREASES OF UP TO 16°F HAVE BEEN OBSERVED IN STUDIES OF THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES.

HOW THIS AFFECTS HUMAN STRESS FACTORS AT THE CEMETERY, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE LIKELIHOOD OF ELDERLY VISITORS.

THERE IS AN ESSENTIAL QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN LEFT COMPLETELY UNDISCUSSED THUS FAR.

THESE OUTCOMES AND CHANGE PROPOSALS ARE NOT THE CONSEQUENCE OF HAVING NOTHING BETTER TO DO OR TRYING TO MANUFACTURE CONTROVERSY.

WHILE I PERSONALLY BELIEVE A MORATORIUM TO SORT ALL THIS OUT IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION, THAT ISN'T THE PATH THAT WE'RE ON.

AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY AS AN ENGINEER TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO INFORM AND ULTIMATELY TRY TO PROTECT RESIDENTS OF THIS TOWN.

I'M HAPPY TO DEBATE THE ENGINEERING, DISCUSS OR EDUCATE ON ANY OF THE TOPICS, BUT I REALLY ASK THAT THE ATTACKS ON THE MOTIVATION AND ILL INFORMED RETORTS STOP. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KIMBERLY MCALLISTER, FOLLOWED BY MARIE VOORHEES. MAYOR POST, VICE MAYOR ZIEGLER, COUNCILMEMBERS AND STAFF, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT AND VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR AN ICE DETENTION FACILITY IN MARANA.

SO I WENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY'S WEBSITE TO LOOK AROUND, AND THEY HAVE A SECTION WHERE THEY LIST THE CRIMINAL ALIEN ARRESTS BY ICE.

ILLEGAL FROM MEXICO, THIRD DEGREE RAPE, SECOND DEGREE ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON.

ILLEGAL FROM HAITI, AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, STRANGULATION, TERRORISTIC THREATS.

ILLEGAL FROM EL SALVADOR, MANSLAUGHTER. AN ILLEGAL FROM MEXICO STATUTORY RAPE.

AN ILLEGAL FROM HONDURAS POSSESSION OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY.

AN ILLEGAL FROM MEXICO FIRST DEGREE CRIMINAL SEXUAL PENETRATION.

PENETRATION OF A CHILD UNDER 13. AN ILLEGAL FROM MEXICO SEXUAL ABUSE OF A CHILD ENTICING A MINOR.

AN ILLEGAL FROM HONDURAS MOLESTATION OF A MINOR, DRUG TRAFFICKING, SEX ASSAULT.

AN ILLEGAL FROM MEXICO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROBATION VIOLATION, VOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER.

AN ILLEGAL FROM POLAND, EXPLOITATION OF A MINOR CRUELTY TOWARD CHILD, SEX OFFENSE AGAINST CHILD FONDLING, SEX ASSAULT ENTICEMENT OF MINOR FOR INDECENT PURPOSES.

ILLEGAL FROM VIETNAM LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH A MINOR ENTICEMENT FOR MINOR FOR INDECENT PURPOSES, RAPE. AND ILLEGAL FROM HONDURAS. ILLEGAL REENTRY, THAT IS PAGE ONE OF 2,570 PAGES. THE WORK, THIS IS THE WORK THAT ICE IS DOING.

THEY ARE HEROES. THEY SHOULD BE SUPPORTED. THEY DESERVE OUR RESPECT.

THEY ARE DOING THEIR JOB AND FULFILLING PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PROMISE TO CARRY OUT MASS DEPORTATIONS, STARTING WITH THE WORST OF THE WORST. BUT ALSO THE AMERIKAN PEOPLE ELECTED TRUMP BECAUSE HE PROMISED TO DEPORT EVERY SINGLE ILLEGAL ALIEN.

JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS NOT ON A MOST WANTED LIST DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE NOT A CRIMINAL.

AND THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS IN OUR COUNTRY THANKS TO THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.

AND SO EVERY SINGLE ILLEGAL NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THEIR HOME COUNTRY AND START OVER DOING IT THE LEGAL WAY.

I LOVE THAT MARANA HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY A PART IN THAT.

LIKE I SAID TWO WEEKS AGO, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO BLOCK THE OPENING OF ANOTHER DETENTION CENTER BECAUSE IT JUST MEANS CRAMMING MORE ILLEGALS INTO LESS SPACE.

OPENING MORE DETENTION CENTERS IS THE HUMANE THING TO DO.

THANK YOU FOR MAINTAINING YOUR COMMON SENSE UPHOLDING THE LAW AND REFUSING TO GIVE IN TO PRESSURE.

YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. I'M SO THANKFUL FOR YOU.

I WILL BE KNOCKING ON DOORS FOR YOU MAYOR POST.

AND ANYONE ELSE RUNNING FOR TOWN COUNCIL. I SUPPORT YOU, AND I BELIEVE MARANA IS VERY BLESSED TO HAVE YOUR LEADERSHIP.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARIE VOORHEES, FOLLOWED BY PAT JOHNSON.

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I JUST WANT TO PRAY FOR THIS MEETING, AND I'M GOING TO READ FROM REVELATION FOUR AND FIVE BRIEFLY.

HOLY, HOLY, HOLY IS THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, WHO WAS AND IS AND IS TO COME.

YOU ARE WORTHY, OUR LORD AND GOD, TO RECEIVE GLORY AND HONOR AND POWER.

FOR YOU CREATED ALL THINGS, AND BY YOUR WILL THEY WERE CREATED AND HAVE THEIR BEING.

WORTHY IS THE LAMB WHO WAS SLAIN TO RECEIVE POWER AND WEALTH AND WISDOM AND STRENGTH AND HONOR AND GLORY AND PRAISE TO HIM WHO SITS ON THE THRONE AND TO THE LAMB BE PRAISE AND HONOR AND GLORY AND POWER FOREVER AND EVER.

LORD, JUST BE WITH US IN THIS MEETING. HOLY SPIRIT, FILL THIS ROOM.

PROTECT AND BLESS EACH AND EVERY PERSON. GIVE US WISDOM, LORD, TO KNOW HOW TO MOVE FORWARD AND HOW TO LIVE IN THIS WORLD.

AND WE JUST THANK YOU AND WE PRAISE YOU IN YOUR NAME, LORD.

AMEN. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PAT JOHNSON, AND OUR FINAL SPEAKER WILL BE CHRISTOPHER PUKA.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR ROXANNE ZIEGLER AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS PAT JOHNSON. I LIVE IN MARANA. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS, FIRST AS A SNOWBIRD AND THEN FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS AS A RESIDENT.

I HEARD SPEAKERS THE LAST TWO SESSIONS THAT I KNEW WERE GIVING MISINFORMATION ABOUT IMMIGRANTS.

FIRST OF ALL, YOU DON'T BROADLY BRUSH ALL IMMIGRANTS WITH MURDER, RAPE, STEALING AND ETC.

I KNOW IMMIGRANTS. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE UNDOCUMENTED OR NOT, BUT THEY ARE VERY POLITE.

THEY'RE HARD WORKING AND THEY WOULD NOT COMMIT A CRIME.

YES, WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY WHO DO, AND THEY SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF, PUT IN DETENTION CENTERS OR SENT BACK. BUT THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT COMMITTED ANY CRIMES AND HAVE BEEN HERE FOR DECADES ARE BEING PUT IN THESE DETENTION CENTERS ALSO. AND THAT IS NOT RIGHT. AND CHILDREN ARE BEING PUT IN THEM.

IF YOU'VE READ ABOUT THE DILLEY DETENTION CENTER IN TEXAS, THERE ARE CHILDREN THERE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR EIGHT MONTHS OR MORE.

AND WHAT DO YOU SUPPOSE IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THOSE CHILDREN? THE PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS ON THOSE KIDS WILL NOT BE PROBABLY NOT BE ABLE TO BE CURED.

THE LITTLE BOY WITH THE EARS ON HIS HAT WAS IN THERE FOR A WHILE.

FORTUNATELY, HE HAD A LAWYER WHO GOT HIM OUT.

HE WAS DEPRESSED. HE WAS NOT EATING, HE COULDN'T SLEEP.

AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE LIGHTS IN A DETENTION CENTER ARE ON ALL NIGHT.

THEY ARE TREATED POORLY. THERE'S NOT MEDICAL HELP.

SOME OF THE MEALS THAT THEY GET HAVE WORMS IN THEM.

POTABLE WATER IS NOT AVAILABLE ALL THE TIME. SO THESE PEOPLE ARE BEING TREATED NOT QUITE AS BAD AS THE HOLOCAUST, BUT IT'S GETTING THERE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TO THESE PEOPLE.

AND HOW LONG ARE THEY GOING TO BE THERE? WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT SOME OF THEM ARE BEING SENT TO AFRICA WHERE THEY HAVE NO TIES.

NONE. AND THEY'RE BEING SENT TO PLACES IN AFRICA JUST TO BE CRUEL.

THE WEBSITE FOR DHS, OF COURSE, MAKES IT ALL SOUND REALLY GREAT, BUT DO YOU RECALL THE ELOY CENTER? IT WAS EITHER ELOY OR FLORENCE. A MAN HAD A TOOTHACHE IN THE ICE DETENTION CENTER.

WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM? BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T TREAT IT.

HE DIED IN THE DETENTION CENTER. AND AS A PREVIOUS SPEAKER HAD SAID, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED THIS YEAR? AND THAT'S WHAT DETENTION CENTERS DO. ON A SEPARATE TOPIC, I HAVE A QUESTION.

THE DATA CENTER. I HAVE HEARD THAT THERE IS A PETITION SUBMITTED.

WELL, WE HAD A PETITION SUBMITTED WITH 3,000 SIGNATURES, BUT THERE'S A BILL IN THE ARIZONA SENATE STRIKER HB 2873.

ARE ANY OF YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT BILL? I DON'T KNOW WHO PUT IT THROUGH, BUT I WAS TOLD BY WARREN PETERSON'S AIDE THAT SOMEBODY FROM THE TOWN COUNCIL PUT IT THROUGH. OH, HEY. NO, NO. AND THIS IS TO WITHDRAW THE PETITION THAT WE HAD PUT IN.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY FALSE. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] OUR LAST SPEAKER, OUR LAST SPEAKER THIS EVENING IS CHRISTOPHER PUKA. HI, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COUNCIL, MAYOR POST. THERE IS NO LEGAL EXPLANATION FOR CRUELTY

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AND FOR TAKING AWAY THE DIGNITY OF HUMAN BEINGS.

I'M ASKING EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM NOT TO BELIEVE SOMETHING BECAUSE I SAID IT, BUT TO ACTUALLY GO INTO THE DIFFERENT NEWS OUTLETS AND FACT FINDING BODIES AND SEE WHAT THE REALITY IS OF WHAT IS BEING DONE BY ICE. IT'S A PARAMILITARY GROUP AND IT'S ACTING UNDER THE PRESIDENT BASICALLY TO ALMOST CREATE.

WELL, NO, I'M SORRY, I WON'T SAY THAT. IT'S DOING SOME INCREDIBLY CRUEL THINGS.

RECENTLY, TWO PEOPLE GOT MARRIED. ONE WAS STAFFS ARMY SERGEANT MATTHEW BLANK, 23.

HIS WIFE WAS ANNIE RAMOS, 22, WHO IS A COLLEGE STUDENT AND ABOUT TO GET A BIOCHEMISTRY DEGREE.

THEY WENT ON TO THE BASE WHERE THEY WOULD LIVE SO SHE COULD GET HER ID AND HER BENEFITS BECAUSE HE WAS ABOUT TO START TRAINING FOR DEPLOYMENT. WHEN THEY WERE FILLING OUT FORMS, PHONE CALLS WERE MADE AND ICE CAME IN AND TOOK HER AWAY FROM HER HUSBAND AND PUT HER IN A DETENTION CENTER.

SHE HAD COME TO THIS COUNTRY AS AN INFANT FROM HONDURAS.

AT AGE 22 MONTHS. A DEPORTATION ORDER WAS PUT ON HER WHEN FAMILY DID NOT MAKE AN APPEARANCE AT COURT. SHE WENT ON TO GET AN EDUCATION.

AND THIS BEAUTIFUL WOMAN, WHO WAS ABOUT TO BE OF GREAT SERVICE TO ALL OF US, WAS RIPPED AWAY FROM HER HUSBAND. NOW, THIS IS NOT AN EXCEPTION. ICE WILL GO TO COURTS AND GET PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE WHO ARE FOLLOWING THROUGH ON PROCEDURES, AND THEY'LL SNATCH THEM UP AND TAKE THEM OUT THROUGH THE BACK DOOR. NO WAY DOES THIS ACCORD WITH HUMAN DIGNITY AND RESPECT FOR HUMAN BEINGS.

IN NO WAY IS THIS A CHRISTIAN BELIEF. AS I CAN TELL YOU, THE MEMBERS OF MY CHURCH WILL TELL YOU.

SO PLEASE, PLEASE RECONSIDER YOUR POSITION ON THE DETENTION CENTER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [APPLAUSE] PR ONE.

ITEM PR 1 PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE WEEK OF THE YOUNG CHILD.

[ Proclamation Recognizing the Week of the Young Child (Jill McCleary) ]

READY. WHEREAS, ALL OF ARIZONA'S CHILDREN DESERVE ACCESS TO QUALITY EARLY CARE AND EDUCATION, ECE ENVIRONMENTS. AND WHEREAS, QUALITY CHILD CARE PROGRAMS BUILD CHILDREN'S LIFELONG LEARNING SKILLS DURING THE CRITICAL YEARS FROM BIRTH TO AGE FIVE.

AND WHEREAS, TEACHERS AND CHILDCARE PROVIDERS ARE THE ESSENTIAL WORKFORCE THAT HELPS ARIZONA PARENTS GET TO WORK OR SCHOOL.

AND WHEREAS FUNDING QUALITY CHILDCARE IS A SMART INVESTMENT THAT IMPROVES FAMILY WELL-BEING, STRENGTHENS COMMUNITIES, AND GROWS OUR STATE'S PROSPERITY.

AND WHEREAS, FIRST THINGS FIRST, ARIZONA ASSOCIATION FOR THE EDUCATION OF YOUNG CHILDREN, SOUTHERN ARIZONA ASSOCIATION FOR THE EDUCATION OF YOUNG CHILDREN AND OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE EDUCATION OF YOUNG CHILDREN, ARE CELEBRATING THE 55TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE WEEK OF THE YOUNG CHILD.

AND WHEREAS THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE WORKING TO IMPROVE EQUITABLE EARLY CHILDHOOD OPPORTUNITIES THAT PROVIDE A STRONG START FOR CHILDREN IN MARANA.

NOW THEREFORE, I JON POST, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF MARANA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 11TH THROUGH THE 17TH, 2026 AS THE WEEK OF THE YOUNG CHILD IN MARANA AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO SUPPORT EARLY CARE AND EDUCATION IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? SURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ROSA TAUB AND I AM THE POLICY, PARTNERSHIPS AND OUTREACH ADVISOR FOR FIRST THINGS FIRST.

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FIRST THINGS FIRST IS A STATE AGENCY DEDICATED TO SUPPORTING THE DEVELOPMENT, HEALTH AND EARLY LEARNING OF ARIZONA'S CHILDREN FROM BIRTH TO AGE FIVE.

THESE EARLY YEARS ARE CRITICAL, AS 90% OF A CHILD'S BRAIN GROWTH HAPPENS BY THE AGE OF FIVE, SETTING THE FOUNDATION FOR LIFELONG SUCCESS. IN 2025.

FIRST THINGS FIRST INVESTED MORE THAN $128 MILLION INTO THE ARIZONA EARLY CHILDHOOD SYSTEM, PROVIDING FUNDING TO NEARLY 80 ORGANIZATIONS AND IMPACTING THE LIVES OF AROUND 160,000 CHILDREN.

NEARLY HALF OF FIRST THINGS FIRST FUNDS ARE DEDICATED TO EXPANDING QUALITY CHILD CARE AND PROVIDING SCHOLARSHIPS TO FAMILIES IN NEED.

INVESTING IN EARLY CHILDHOOD PROGRAMS GIVES A SIGNIFICANT RETURN, SAVING US $4 TO $16 FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT BY HELPING KIDS DO BETTER IN SCHOOL, STAYING HEALTHY, AND NEEDING LESS SUPPORT LATER ON IN LIFE.

FAMILIES BENEFIT IMMEDIATELY, TOO, AS THESE PROGRAMS MAKE CHILDCARE MORE AFFORDABLE, PROVIDE HEALTH AND PARENTING RESOURCES, AND HELP ALL CHILDREN RECEIVE A FAIR START. WITH STRONG, IMMEDIATE AND LONG TERM RETURNS SUPPORTING EARLY CHILDHOOD IS ONE OF THE SMARTEST INVESTMENTS WE CAN MAKE FOR FAMILIES TODAY AND FOR OUR STATE'S FUTURE.

WE NEED THE COMMUNITY AND OUR ELECTED LEADERS TO ENDORSE POLICIES TO ARIZONA'S CHILDREN THAT GIVE THEM THE BEST START POSSIBLE AND HELP MOVE THE ARIZONA ECONOMY FORWARD.

THANK YOU TO THE TOWN OF MARANA FOR RECOGNIZING THE VITAL IMPORTANCE OF EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION AND FOR ISSUING THIS PROCLAMATION.

GOOD EVENING. I'M A RESIDENT HERE IN MARANA AND I SERVE ON THE COUNCIL FOR PIMA NORTH FIRST THINGS FIRST THAT HELPS DECIDE WHERE OUR FUNDING FROM THESE TOBACCO TAX DOLLARS GO TO SERVE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES 0 TO 5. SO I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE DIFFICULTIES THAT YOU FACE AND THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE THAT IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY.

AS I SERVE IN A ROLE SIMILAR WITH THESE DOLLARS.

I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY, BUT I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE KEEP CHILDREN AND OUR FUTURE GENERATION AND YOUR THINKING WITH EVERY DECISION YOU MAKE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK BOTH OF YOU VERY MUCH.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL REPORT. COUNCIL MEMBER CAVANAUGH.

[ MAYOR AND COUNCIL REPORTS: SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS]

YEAH, A COUPLE OF THINGS MAYOR. THERE WERE SEVERAL MARANA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE EVENTS, BUT AND THEN I ATTENDED AND THEY WERE ALL VERY INTERESTING, BUT PATTI COMERFORD AND I ATTENDED POWER OF REAL ESTATE UP AT THE WHERE WAS THAT? LA PALOMA? YEAH. THERE YOU GO. AND IF WE HEARD ONE THING, WE TALKED, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR MORE REAL ESTATE HOMES TO BE BUILT.

AND I THINK WE COULD COME HOME, BUT WE COULD COME FROM THAT MEETING KNOWING THAT WE'RE SEEING HOME BUILDING IN MARANA.

AND THAT'S WHERE HOMES ARE BEING BUILT. AND WE'RE PART OF THE SOLUTION AND REAL ESTATE NEEDS HERE IN, IN THE WHOLE VALLEY. SO THAT'S MY REPORT. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER COMERFORD. YEP. EVERY TIME I GO TO ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS, I LEARN SOMETHING NEW.

IT'S AMAZING WHAT YOU FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON BY ATTENDING THESE EVENTS.

ALSO ATTENDED AND I THINK I SAW COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER OR VICE MAYOR ZIEGLER THERE.

THE MEMORIAL THAT WAS ON SATURDAY, YES. AND IT WAS, THEY DO SUCH A GREAT JOB.

26 YEARS THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS AND THEY DO THE AIRPORT.

OUR, EMPLOYEES AT THE AIRPORT AS WELL AS OUR MILITARY SERVICES THEY JUST DO SUCH A GREAT JOB.

AND EVEN AFTER 26 YEARS, THEY'RE STILL FOLKS, FAMILY THAT SHOW UP FOR THAT MEMORIAL.

SO I'M SO PROUD OF, OF MARANA AND, AND THEM CONTINUING THAT, THAT HONORING THOSE 19 SOLDIERS. YOUNGEST ONE WAS 18.

YEAH. IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL CEREMONY. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER COMERFORD. COUNCILMEMBER OFFICER.

YEAH. JUST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WHAT A WARM DAY IT WAS FOR FOUNDER'S DAY.

BUT EVEN CUTTING IT AN HOUR SHORT, IT WAS STILL ENJOYED BY QUITE A FEW PEOPLE.

AND GREATEST LITTLE PARADE IN ARIZONA. COUNCIL MEMBER MURPHY.

I JUST HAVE A FEW THINGS. ONE, I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT. HOPEFULLY EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM GOT TO ATTEND THE STATE OF THE TOWN BECAUSE IT WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

JOHN, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD GET TO THAT MANY PLACES THAT QUICK BEFORE YOU ATTENDED THE EVENT. IT WAS PRETTY AWESOME. VICKY AND YOUR CREW, YOU GUYS DID AN AMAZING JOB. IT WAS ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC.

SO HOPEFULLY OUR CITIZENS GOT TO SEE IT BECAUSE IT WAS AMAZING TO SEE ALL THE PROCESS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING ON IN OUR TOWN,

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BECAUSE IT IS PRETTY MIRACULOUS. SO I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THEM.

I ALSO WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THE PIMA COUNTY FAIR IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER, AND I PUSH AND I PUSH AND I PUSH FOR THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE LOTS OF CHILDREN THAT LIVE IN THE TOWN OF MARANA THAT ARE TRYING TO KEEP OUR WESTERN HERITAGE ALIVE AND ALL OF OUR AGRICULTURE AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND WE HAVE OVER 100 KIDS THAT WILL BE SHOWING BEEF THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE ENTIRE, THIS WHOLE ENTIRE AREA.

BUT WE HAVE LOTS OF MARANA, STOCKMEN'S AND MARANA FFA.

SO WE NEED LOTS OF BUYERS, PEOPLE TO GET OUT THERE AND SUPPORT THOSE KIDS. BUT THERE'S LAMB, PIGS, SHEEP, HORSES, ALL KINDS OF AMAZING THINGS. SO PLEASE GET OUT THERE AND SUPPORT OUR KIDS.

ALSO DOMINIC ROMERO ROPING IS ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AT THE MARANA HERITAGE ARENA.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT KNOW HIM, HE WAS A KID THAT ATTENDED MARANA HIGH SCHOOL AND GOT KILLED.

SO IT'S A MEMORIAL THAT WE CELEBRATE. THEY NEVER DID FIND OUT WHO DID IT.

BUT WE GIVE TWO SCHOLARSHIPS AWAY AND THEY'RE PRETTY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

ONE IS FOR AN ATHLETE WHO GOES TO MARANA HIGH SCHOOLS, AND THE OTHER ONE IS FOR A RODEO ATHLETE.

SO ANYWAYS, THAT LIVES IN MARANA AS WELL. SO PLEASE SUPPORT ALL THESE EVENTS YOU GUYS AND THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR BEING A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

COUNCILMEMBER KAI. THANK YOU MAYOR. MAYOR, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT YOU DID A GREAT JOB AT THE STATE OF THE TOWN REPRESENTING OUR TOWN.

I DIDN'T KNOW YOU'RE QUITE A CELEBRITY. [LAUGHTER] BUT ANYWAY, YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER KAI. SO WE STARTED OFF WITH FOUNDER'S DAY, AND FOUNDER'S DAY WAS A GREAT EVENT.

I THOUGHT THE TOWN STAFF DID A FANTASTIC JOB.

YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY HAD A LOT OF ENTRIES INTO THE PARADE, BUT THIS YEAR, NORMALLY THE PARADE ROUTE IS PACKED WITH KIDS, PEOPLE, KIDS, FAMILIES, AND THERE WAS HARDLY ANYBODY HERE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW I THINK WHEN IT'S 100 DEGREES AT 11:00 IN THE MORNING THAT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST NOT GOING TO GET THE TURNOUT. NEVERTHELESS, I STILL THINK A GOOD TIME WAS HAD BY ALL THAT DID ATTEND.

YOU KNOW, THERE WERE A LOT OF FAMILIES STILL HERE AND HANGING OUT IN THE SHADE AND DOING THINGS.

AND SO I FELT LIKE IT WAS A REALLY GREAT FOUNDERS DAY.

I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WITH, ALONG WITH TERRY AND WAYNE TO THROW THE FIRST PITCH OUT FOR THE MARANA LITTLE LEAGUE.

ACTUALLY WE HAD TO DO THERE'S SO MANY KIDS. THEY HAD TWO, TWO DIFFERENT DISTINCT FIRST PITCHES AND FIRST THING I ASKED TERRY AND WAYNE IS I SAID, HEY, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME ONE OF YOU GUYS ARE THROWING A BASEBALL? [LAUGHTER] AND WE ALL AGREED IT HAD BEEN MANY YEARS SINCE WE THREW A BASEBALL.

BUT WE DID WELL. WE DID A GOOD SHOWING FOR OURSELVES.

ANYWAY, THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN. REALLY ENJOYED DOING THAT.

AND THEN LATER THAT NIGHT AT MY PLACE, I HAD TOTALLY UNRELATED TO MY POSITION HERE, BUT I HAD 900 KIDS FROM THE MARANA HIGH SCHOOL AT A PROM.

WHAT A SPECTACULAR EVENT. YOU KNOW, THEY WHAT THEY DO NOW IS THEY ONE YEAR THEY HAVE IT AT A FANCY PLACE, A RESORT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR THEY HAVE IT OUT AT THE FARM.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS THAT SHOW UP AT THE FARM.

SO A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S KIDS THAT ARE JUST ABSOLUTELY DRESSED.

I MEAN, JUST SO FANCY, BUT THEN THERE'S KIDS THAT, YOU KNOW, DON'T AFFORD THAT STUFF AND ARE JUST SHOWING UP AND IT'S PRETTY COOL.

IT'S VERY INCLUSIVE. AND, THEY HAVE VERY HIGH TURNOUT NUMBERS TO HAVING THE PROM OUT THERE.

AND, SO I GOT TO DRIVE THE TRAIN FOR THREE HOURS, WHICH IS A LOT OF FUN FOR ME BECAUSE I NEVER GET TO DO THAT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW JUST A VERY FUN EVENT. AND THEN WE DID HAVE THE STATE OF THE TOWN AND ALTHOUGH I AM NOT THE PERSON THAT LIKES TO PUT MYSELF OUT THERE, I HAVE FOUND OUT THAT OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM THAT'S LED BY VICKY, FIRST OF ALL, VERY TALENTED. SECONDLY, YOU DON'T REALLY TELL THEM NO.

SO IF THEY HAVE A REALLY, REALLY GOOD IDEA, YOU JUST KIND OF GO WITH IT.

I THINK I TOLD VICKY NO ONE TIME. I'M PRETTY SURE SHE JUST IGNORED ME.

IT WAS FINE THOUGH. SO ANYWAY, GREAT JOB. VERY, VERY TALENTED INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE WORKING FOR OUR TOWN.

KUDOS TO ALL THE STAFF, THE CHAMBER PEOPLE THAT PUT ON THAT EVENT.

I THINK THEY HAD NOT NOT I THINK THEY HAD A SOLD OUT ROOM AT THE RITZ CARLTON OVER 500, ALMOST 600 PEOPLE AT THAT EVENT.

MAJOR FUNDRAISER FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD THAT THE TOWN PARTICIPATES IN THAT.

WE DID HAVE AN RTA MEETING TWO WEEKS I'VE THERE'S SO MUCH HAPPENING.

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AND IN THIS RTA MEETING, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AND WHAT I'M GOING TO BE VERY HAPPY ABOUT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE FIRST RTA IS WE'RE GOING TO START HAVING QUARTERLY REPORTS OF THE PROJECTS AS THE PROJECTS AS YOU KNOW, THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND YOU KNOW, THE FIRST RTA, YOU REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THE PROJECTS WERE. YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO START. YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THEY WERE IN THEIR PARTICULAR QUEUE. BUT MIKE ORTEGA HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF WATCHING AND SEEING THE FAILURES OF THE FIRST RTA AND IS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT CHANGES ARE MADE IN THE SECOND RTA THAT REALLY BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AND GET THIS MONEY OUT THERE INTO THE COMMUNITY AND GET THESE BADLY NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE JOBS STARTED.

AND SO HOPEFULLY I'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE QUARTERLY REPORTS OF RTA BUSINESS THAT WILL REALLY LET OUR COMMUNITY KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH THE RTA AS IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MR. ROZEMA. VICE MAYOR, DID I FORGET THE VICE MAYOR.

I APOLOGIZE, VICE MAYOR THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU SIR.

WELL, I WON'T TOUCH ON THE STATE OF TOWNS. IF EVERYBODY ELSE DID, IT WAS A FUN I THINK ONE OF THE FUN ONES WE'VE EVER BEEN TO.

VERY ENTERTAINING AND SAW SOME GREAT PEOPLE THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN A WHILE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. PATTI MENTIONED THE MARINE MEMORIAL FOR THE 19 MARINES WHO DIED, 2000 HERE AT OUR AIRPORT. EVERY YEAR IT GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER.

AND THIS YEAR I WAS VERY PROUD. WE HAD FOR ALL THESE YEARS WE'VE BEEN GOING THERE FOR, WHAT, 26 YEARS AND WE'D NEVER LAID A WREATH. SO I HAD ASKED, COULD WE DO THAT? SO I PUT IT IN THE HANDS OF THE TOWN AND DANIELLE TOOK IT AND SHE HAD OUR SENIORS BUILD OR BUILD, PUT A REEF TOGETHER AND HAD THE TOWN OF MARANA ACROSS IT.

AND THEN TWO OF OUR VETERANS WHO WORK HERE IN THE TOWN OF MARANA, GUS AND MITCHELL CARRIED IT DOWN TO THE MEMORIAL.

AND STAYING WITH THE REEF ALSO THE CEMETERY FOUNDATION, WHICH I AM A MEMBER, WE ALSO HAVE NEVER LAID A WREATH FOR OUR FOUNDATION THERE. SO WE TO PUT. WELL, MY DAUGHTER IN LAW MADE IT.

DON'T GET ME AROUND THAT. AND WE ALSO LAID A WREATH.

SO IT'S GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER AND MORE PEOPLE ARE ATTENDING.

AND IT'S A VERY SOLEMN, SOLEMN CEREMONY. IT'S ONE THAT I HAVE TROUBLE GETTING THROUGH.

THIS MORNING YOU DIDN'T MENTION, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD.

MAYOR AND I AND OUR STAFF MET WITH CONGRESSMAN ANDY BIGGS.

HE FOR THOSE WHO KNOW, HE'S RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR FOR THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

SO WE HAD A NICE CONVERSATION WITH HIM. STARTED OUT KIND OF BLEAK SOME OF THE THINGS, BUT IT WAS NICE TO TOUCH BASE WITH HIM.

OH, STAYING WITH THE CEMETERY. I MENTIONED THIS ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO AND I'LL MENTION ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO, I HAD ANOTHER MEETING WITH THE GENTLEMAN WHO IS DONATING 15 MORE ACRES TO THE CEMETERY.

I THINK I HAD SAID BEFORE, WE'VE STILL GOT ABOUT 3 OR 4 MORE YEARS FOR INTERMENTS, BUT WE CAN'T WAIT TILL THEN.

SO WE HAD A BLESSING FROM SOMEONE WHO WORKS IN OUR TOWN, NOT IN OUR TOWN, BUT AS A PARTNER IN OUR TOWN.

AND HE'S GOING TO DONATE 15 ACRES TO THE FOUNDATION TO THE CEMETERY.

MET WITH SAM MILLS. HE IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE D.R.

HORTON. THIS IS FOR THOSE WHO LIVE IN SAGUARO BLOOM, PHASE TWO, WHICH IS THE PARK.

I GUESS I'M GOING TO LOOK AT RENT OUT THERE. STILL WAITING TO GET THAT IRRIGATION VALVE IN IT'S THE LONG POLE IN THE TENT AND IT'S GETTING LONGER AND LONGER. AND UNTIL WE GET THAT IN AND IN THE GROUND, WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PHASE TWO DESIGN OF OUR PHASE TWO.

SO I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE US AS BEST AS WE CAN TO GET THAT VALVE IN HERE AND GET IT DOWN ON THE GROUND SO SAGUARO BLOOM CAN START TO ENJOY THEIR PARK. AND AT LEAST IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, TWO YEARS.

THAT'S ON DEER HEART. YEAH, THAT YES, YES, THAT'S ON DEER HEART.

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AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEN PHASE TWO IS THE TOWN OF MARANA.

SO I THINK WE'LL SPEED IT UP QUICK MORE QUICKLY.

I THINK WHAT AM I MISSING? OKAY. WE SAID THAT I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.

YES. THANK YOU. OH, AND MAY I. OH, I WAS GOING TO ASK TERRY SOMETHING WHEN YOU GET OVER THERE.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. AND SORRY AGAIN.

I FORGOT ABOUT YOU. MR. ROZEMA. MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

[ MANAGER’S REPORT: SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS]

A NUMBER OF THINGS TO UPDATE YOU ON ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UPDATE FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH, 78 SFRS COMPARED TO MARCH OF 25, 135. THOSE NUMBERS ARE DOWN FROM LAST YEAR.

YOU TALKED ABOUT FOUNDER'S DAY. YOU TALKED ABOUT STATE OF THE TOWN, SO I'M NOT GOING TO COVER EITHER ONE OF THOSE.

I WILL SAY THAT WE DO HAVE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE HAD ONE OF THOSE. WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING UP.

AND IT IS ON APRIL THE 8TH. SO TOMORROW AT 12 P.M.

LOCATED AT THE MARANA COMMUNITY ROOM, 5100 WEST INA.

WE'RE GETTING THE MOST DOLLARS WE'VE EVER GOTTEN FROM THE CDBG OF $223,434.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR INPUT ON HOW WE SPEND THOSE DOLLARS IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE OTHER THING WE'RE SEEKING INPUT ON. I KNOW WE GOT TO SEE A LITTLE BIT THIS AT THE STATE OF THE TOWN, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

BUT THE BARNETT CHANNEL LINEAR PARK. WE'RE GETTING READY.

WE'RE IN THE DCR RIGHT NOW AND PROVIDING SOME FEEDBACK TO SOMAS WHO COMPLETED THAT FOR US.

AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE ASKING FOR THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT.

THEY CAN GO ONLINE TO OUR WEBSITE. THERE'S A SURVEY ON THERE IF THEY'D LIKE TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THINGS THEY'D LOVE TO SEE ON THE BARNETT LINEAR PARK, WHICH IS GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY FROM I-10 DOWN WHERE BARNETT CURRENTLY IS AS A ROAD.

IT WILL BE AN ENTIRE PARK GOING ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE RIVER.

SO SEVERAL MILES OF LINEAR PARK AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT.

WE ALSO HAD ANOTHER REAL TALK EPISODE REAL TALK WITH THE TOWN EPISODE THAT CAME OUT AND THAT ONE DEALS SPECIFICALLY WITH TANGERINE ROAD.

WE'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE INTERCHANGE, TIMING WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE DONE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO THAT EPISODE COVERS THAT.

THIS IS THIS NEXT THING IS HOT OFF THE PRESSES, LITERALLY JUST BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING.

ERIK AND I GOT A PHONE CALL FROM OUR VERY OWN FAUSTO BURRUEL, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, TO INFORM US THAT IN A MEETING THAT THEY WERE AT WITH ADOT AND RTA OFFICIALS, THAT THE MOORE ROAD INTERCHANGE WILL ACTUALLY BEGIN IN FISCAL YEAR 30.

THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN IN FISCAL YEAR 30, WHICH BEGINS JULY OF 29, AND THAT THEY ARE MOVING UP CUARTERO TO BE COMPLETED RIGHT AFTER THAT. SO THAT WILL BE DONE IN THE BEGINNING OF PHASE TWO.

AND THEN FOLLOWED BY TANGERINE ALMOST SIMULTANEOUSLY, IF NOT PARALLEL WITH, IS THAT FAIRLY ACCURATE? DID I GET THAT? DID I MESS IT UP FAUSTO.

IN THE SECOND PERIOD. IN THE SECOND PERIOD, MAYBE NOT THE BEGINNING OF THE SECOND PERIOD.

OKAY, SO I THINK THAT'S GOOD NEWS FOR THE TOWN, FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

ALTHOUGH CONSTRUCTION IS PAINFUL, AS WE ARE IDENTIFYING AND CONVEYING TO OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH THE TANGERINE SQUEEZE, WHICH BY THE WAY, IS GETTING A LOT OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK IN A POSITIVE WAY.

SO REALLY GRATEFUL TO, AGAIN, TO OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM.

VIC'S GETTING ALL KINDS OF FLOWERS TODAY. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, OUR VERY OWN VIC HATHAWAY IS NOW A PUBLISHED AUTHOR.

SO SHE WELL, HER BOOK IS GOING TO BE PUBLISHED.

SHE WROTE A BOOK AND IT'S GOING TO BE PUBLISHED. SO A KUDOS AND FLOWERS TO VIC ON THE.

TOLD YOU SHE WAS TALENTED. YOU DID YOU TELL ME THAT ALL THE TIME.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT GREAT NEWS ON THE INTERCHANGES.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE WONDERFUL. ALTHOUGH, LIKE I SAID, IT'LL BE PAINFUL DURING THE CONSTRUCTION.

BUT ONCE THOSE ARE COMPLETED, IT'S GOING TO BE AN INCREDIBLY IMPACTFUL THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. ROZEMA. VICE MAYOR DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES.

I SEE MISS JOHNSON IS STILL HERE AND SHE HAD ASKED ABOUT 2873, AND I THINK YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU THOUGHT MAYBE ONE OF THE AGENDA.

LATER WE CAN TALK ABOUT. I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION.

IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE AGENDA. OKAY. BUT I WANTED TO GIVE HIM.

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SO I WANTED TO ASK TERRY, I THINK YOU SAID YOU THOUGHT SOMEBODY ON THE COUNCIL HAD DONE THE STRIKER BILL.

I'M SORRY, MA'AM. ACCORDING TO THE OKAY. THE PERSON THAT SUBMITTED THAT IS FROM A REPUBLICAN FROM PHOENIX B O L I C K. YOU CAN USE. THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU MENTIONED A STRIKER.

THE ONLY SPONSOR. ARE THERE OTHERS? THEY WON'T LET ME TALK.

AND THEN THEY MR. MAYOR. HE'S THE ONLY ONE LISTED HERE.

THE ONLY SPONSOR. SO THE ONLY. YEAH, USUALLY ON THE STRIKER BILLS, IT'LL SAY WHO SENT IT IN.

SO JUST TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, IT WAS NOBODY ON THIS COUNCIL.

I THINK THAT WAS IT. THANK YOU SIR. CONSENT AGENDA.

[ CONSENT AGENDA The Consent Agenda contains items requiring action by the Council which are generally routine items not requiring Council discussion. A single motion and affirmative vote will approve all items on the Consent Agenda, including any resolutions or ordinances. Prior to a motion to approve the Consent Agenda, any Council member may remove any item from the Consent Agenda and that item will be discussed and voted upon separately.]

MR. UDALL, DID YOU HAVE A CLARIFICATION YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE BEFORE WE TAKE THAT ON? YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE WANTED TO NOTE THAT THERE WAS A MINOR ERROR IN THE RESOLUTION THAT ACCOMPANIED ITEM C 6 AS IT WAS POSTED ONLINE.

THE FINANCE MANAGER IS THE ONE THAT WILL BE SIGNING THAT RESOLUTION INSTEAD OF THE MAYOR.

SO THAT WAS SWAPPED OUT AND THE RESOLUTION THAT WILL BE SIGNED TONIGHT, AND A COPY OF THE CORRECTED RESOLUTION IS ON THE DAIS BEFORE YOU TO REVIEW.

I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM MR. UDALL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA C6.

HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE? MAYOR. MAYOR IF I COULD, IT SAYS FINANCE DIRECTOR.

IS THAT. IS THAT THE OFFICIAL. THAT IS THE CORRECT.

CORRECT ONE. OKAY. AND THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO MOVED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED. ITEM PASSES D ONE.

[ Relating to Development and Public Works; update, discussion, and possible direction regarding public and private projects and development applications on the Town’s Marana Current and Proposed Projects internet site (Brett Wittenberg)]

ITEM D ONE RELATING TO DEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS.

UPDATE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROJECTS AND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS ON THE TOWN OF MARANA CURRENT AND PROPOSED PROJECTS INTERNET SITE. GOOD NIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

FOR THOSE OF YOU I HAVEN'T HAD THE PLEASURE OF INTERACTING WITH VERY MUCH YET.

I AM BRETT WITTENBERG, THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

AND AS YOU WELL KNOW, THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH, WE GO OVER THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

SO STARTING WITH THE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS, WE'VE GOT TWO UPDATES.

THE SEVEN BREW, WHICH IS A DRIVE THROUGH COFFEE FACILITY LOCATED IN THE EMBASSY PLAZA.

THE SECOND ITEM WOULD BE THE ICCU CREDIT UNION AT HERITAGE PARK.

NO ICC. YES. AND NO NEW RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, LAND USE PROJECTS. WE HAVE TWO OF THOSE. WE HAVE A REZONING REQUEST, THE MARANA WENTZ 74 REZONING.

THIS IS REZONING PROPERTIES OR A PROPERTY THAT HAS A LEGACY ZONING TO R4.

THE OTHER ITEM IS THE CROSSROADS PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM THAT WON'T BE BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

COMMERCIAL PERMITS. THIS PAST MONTH WE'VE HAD TEN PERMITS.

BUSINESS LICENSES. WE'VE HAD 18 THIS MONTH. NO RESTAURANTS.

I HAVE TO SPEAK TO THAT. IS THAT WHAT YOU TOOK OVER FROM JASON? HE'S GOING TO CALL ME AND SAY, DID YOU SAY THAT? SO THANK YOU, SIR, FOR. I WILL SAY CHIPOTLE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.

RIGHT. AND FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PERMITS AS MANAGER ROZEMA MENTIONED 78 PERMITS ISSUED.

THAT'S A SLIGHT TICK DOWN OVER LAST YEAR. NO NEW MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT BUILDING PERMITS 271 PERMITS ISSUED THIS MONTH THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE OVER THE PRIOR MONTH.

AND INSPECTIONS, WE HAD 1500 BUILDING INSPECTIONS, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF ROUGHLY 200 FROM THE PRIOR MONTH.

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AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS BEST AS I CAN.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRETT? COME ON NOW, YOU GUYS GOT TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR HIM.

COME ON, YOU CAN COME UP WITH ONE. I TALKED TO HIM.

OH, OKAY. I'LL TRY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER CAVANAUGH.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THE RESIDENTIAL PERMITS. WHERE IN THE MARANA AREA ARE WE SEEING THOSE CURRENT 78 RESIDENTIAL PERMITS? SO YOU HAVE 56 IN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT. OKAY.

NORTHWEST QUADRANT. AND YOU'VE GOT 15 IN THE NORTHEAST AND SEVEN IN THE SOUTH.

NOW, IS THAT MANDARINA? SOME OF THEM COMING FROM THAT AREA THAT NEW AREA? YES. OKAY. AS WELL AS IN THE NORTHWEST SAGUARO BLOOM MONARCH.

YEAH. AND I SEE THEY'RE GRADING THE AREA AROUND TWIN PEAKS AND I-10, THE BURN PROJECT, WHAT IS IT CALLED? CASCADE. CASCADA. CASCADA, THEN WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME A LOT OF ACTION THINGS, A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON THERE.

YES. PRETTY SOON. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT. NICE JOB.

D2. ITEM D2 RELATING TO LEGISLATION AND GOVERNMENT ACTIONS.

[ Relating to Legislation and Government Actions; discussion and possible action or direction regarding all pending state, federal, and local legislation/government actions and on recent and upcoming meetings of other governmental bodies (Terry Rozema)]

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OR DIRECTION REGARDING ALL PENDING STATE, FEDERAL AND LOCAL LEGISLATION/GOVERNMENT ACTIONS.

AND ON RECENT AND UPCOMING MEETINGS OR OTHER GOVERNMENTAL BODIES.

MR. ROZEMA. MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THERE'S QUITE A BIT GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. AND THERE'S SOME BILLS THAT ARE VERY NEGATIVE FOR THE TOWN.

SOME OF THEM ARE NOT MOVING. ONE THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE, AND I KNOW IT'S ONE THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER WITH YOU AND ASKED YOU TO REACH OUT TO ONE OF OUR LEGISLATORS ABOUT IT. IT'S SB 1431. ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT MOVING, IT DOES HAVE A LOT OF POTENTIAL DOWNSIDES.

AND SPECIFICALLY, I THINK THAT THE MAJOR THING IS IT STRIPS REALLY THE, THE TOWN'S AUTHORITY RELATIVE TO ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. SO ESSENTIALLY BUILDERS WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD WHATEVER THEY WANT WITHOUT ANY KIND OF AN AESTHETIC STANDARD ATTACHED TO IT. PUT THAT THROUGH. THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH. SO THAT ONE IS, IS NOT MOVING RIGHT NOW.

IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS, BUT IT RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT SEEING ANYTHING MOVING ON IT.

THE ONE THAT IS MOVING, THAT IS LOOKING LIKE IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE GOVERNOR AND BE SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR.

I SENT YOU AN EMAIL ON IT LAST WEEK. AND THAT IS HOUSE BILL 2999.

THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCES WITH THIS BILL AND THE EFFECTS ARE WE BELIEVE ARE VERY NEGATIVE.

I THINK WHAT WE'VE STRUGGLED WITH IS THE LEAGUE OF CITIES AND TOWNS HAS ESSENTIALLY REMAINED NEUTRAL ON IT, AS HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE PHOENIX VALLEY COMMUNITIES.

OURSELVES, ALONG WITH ORO VALLEY AND SAHUARITA, HAVE ALL CHIMED IN IN OPPOSITION.

BUT THAT HASN'T HAD ANY EFFECT ON THE BILL MOVING FORWARD.

AND AT THIS POINT, THERE IS A, I THINK, AVAILABLE AT THE DAIS FOR YOU, JUST KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF OUR RATIONALE FOR OPPOSITION TO HOUSE BILL 2999. BUT AGAIN, IT DOES APPEAR THAT IT IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND BE SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR.

I THOUGHT THAT OUR STAFF, SPECIFICALLY ERIK, YIANNIS, PETE, THEY ALL THREE OF THEM CHIMED IN ON REASONS THAT WE BELIEVE IT'S NEGATIVE FOR NOT ONLY OUR RESIDENTS, BUT A BAD DEAL FOR YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS IN ANY COMMUNITY.

THEY OUTLINE THOSE THINGS VERY SPECIFICALLY AND IN GREAT DETAIL.

AND THE RESPONSE FROM THE LEAGUE WAS ESSENTIALLY, I WOULD SAY, DISMISSIVE IN NATURE.

SO WE CONTINUE TO CONVEY OUR CONCERNS ABOUT IT.

WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS IF IT GETS TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OR WHEN IT GETS TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, IF SHE DOES, IN FACT SIGN IT. AND THEN WE'LL BEGIN TO SEE THE EFFECTS OF THAT GOING FORWARD.

HOW WILL THAT AFFECT ONGOING CFDS, WILL THEY? YEAH. MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, IT WON'T AFFECT ANY THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN EFFECT.

SO IT WILL ONLY AFFECT THOSE GOING FORWARD. SO YEAH, THAT COULD BE FAIRLY DETRIMENTAL TO A HOME

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BUYER TO GET WALK IN THE DOOR AND GET STUCK WITH $1,000 A MONTH IN FEES YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD.

ABSOLUTELY. AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO WARN THEM OR TELL THEM OR ANYTHING.

YEAH, I THINK WHAT WE'LL END UP DOING IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE PHOENIX VALLEY COMMUNITIES ARE SAYING.

IT TAKES IT COMPLETELY OUT OF THE HANDS AND THEREFORE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMMUNITIES.

AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO DIRECT THEM TO THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES, DISTRICT BOARDS.

BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR HOMES BECAUSE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO FEEL GOOD TO RESIDENTS DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT IN IT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO FEEL GOOD TO RESIDENTS. AND THAT WILL INCLUDE SPECIAL DISTRICTS AS WELL.

SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS. YEAH. YES. AND SO THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN WAY OF COLLECTING THOSE IN PIMA COUNTY.

ERIK, CAN YOU COVER THAT? MR.. MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, THE LEGISLATION INCLUDES SIMILAR LEGISLATION OR WORDING THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN STATE STATUTE THAT WOULD ALLOW THE COUNTY TREASURER TO PUT IT ON THE TAX ROLL IF THERE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO.

AT ONE POINT IN TIME, PIMA COUNTY WASN'T PREPARED.

THEIR SOFTWARE SYSTEM WOULDN'T ALLOW IT. SO IF THEY WERE ABLE TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM TO ALLOW IT, THEN IT COULD BE INCLUDED ON THE TAX ROLL. IF NOT, THEN THE DISTRICT WOULD BE OBLIGATED OR REQUIRED TO DO THEIR OWN BILLING AND COLLECTION.

THEY COULD DO THAT ON THEIR OWN OR THEY COULD DO IT UTILIZING A THIRD PARTY SERVICE.

BUT IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS WITHIN THAT DISTRICT WOULD RECEIVE A BILL SEPARATE FROM THEIR PROPERTY TAX BILL THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, PLAN FOR AND PAY. THAT WOULD NOT LIKELY BE ABLE TO BE ESCROWED, LIKE WITH OTHER IMPOUND ACCOUNTS FOR OTHER TAXES AND IN INSURANCE IS THAT THEY WOULD PAY FOR THAT HOME, SO THEY WOULD NEED TO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THAT.

THAT'S PART OF WHY THIS COUNCIL WAS VERY CAUTIOUS AND ABOUT NOT ISSUING SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AND OR ALLOWING THEM UNLESS AND UNTIL THE COUNTY TREASURER AND PIMA COUNTY COULD DO THAT ON OUR BEHALF.

SO IT'S UNIFORM COLLECTION, UNIFORM ADMINISTRATION, BUT THAT'S HOW IT COULD WORK UNDER THESE NEW AFFORDABLE AFFORDABILITY DISTRICTS.

OH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND WHO'S THE SPONSOR ON THAT BILL? THE SAME SAME MR. MAYOR. VICE MAYOR, IT IS. I'M NOT SURE IF I'M SAYING THIS RIGHT, BUT IT'S BALIK.

OH. I'M SORRY. YEAH, THAT WAS THE OTHER ONE. WENINGER WENINGER W E N I N G E R.

MR. MAYOR. YES. ERIK, WHAT TIME FRAME ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS LEGISLATION? JULY 1ST, ONE WANTS TO SIGN INTO LAW. THEY HAVE THE NORMAL, NORMAL EFFECT.

THERE'S NO EMERGENCY CLAUSE. SO IT'D BE AFTER THEY CLOSE THE IT'D BE SOMETIME IN THE FALL, LIKE SEPTEMBER. DEPENDS ON WHEN THEY GET OUT OF SESSION.

THERE'S THEIR NORMAL EFFECTIVE DATE. AFTER THAT, AS FAR AS WHEN WE MIGHT SEE ONE IN OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S GOING TO BE SOLELY DEPENDENT UPON WHATEVER THE LANDOWNERS OR DEVELOPERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING FORWARD PROJECTS.

AND THE WHOLE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE RUN THROUGH THE STATE.

SO THE APPLICATION WILL BE MADE THROUGH THE STATE, A STATE AGENCY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM IT, BUT WE DON'T KNOW OF A SPECIFIC PROJECT.

IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT OUR CFD PROPOSAL OR PROPOSED CFD ON CASCADA? MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR ANY THEIR SPECIFIC WORDING IN THE LEGISLATION THAT FOR ANY CFD THAT'S IN EFFECT, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY IMPACT OR EFFECT. AND IN FACT, ANY NEW DISTRICT THAT IS CONSIDERED, THEY CANNOT OVERLAP.

THEY HAVE TO BE SEPARATE. THANK YOU. SO AS TO OUR VILLAGES SET UP THEIRS, YET THEY HAVE NOT IN EXISTENCE YET.

THEY'VE SUBMITTED A DRAFT APPLICATION OR PROBABLY WHAT I WOULD CALL A STALE APPLICATION, BUT IT HASN'T GONE TO FORMATION.

MR. MAYOR. COULD I ASK ONE? YES. TERI. WHAT IS THE HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU DEFINE THE ARIZONA FINANCE AUTHORITY? IS THAT A PRIVATE ENTITY OR A STATE ENTITY? I'M GOING TO LET ERIK ERIK MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR. IT'S IT'S BASICALLY IT'S A DIVISION OF THE IT'S AN OFFICE OR DIVISION OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

OKAY. OKAY. MAYOR. ANY. OH, YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

SO ARE THEY GOING TO COLLECT THE MONEY? MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ANY MONIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE COLLECTED

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THROUGH AN AD VALOREM TAX ON GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS WOULD BE COLLECTED BY THE COUNTY TREASURER IN PIMA COUNTY AND HELD BY THE COUNTY TREASURER, AND THEN DISPENSED AS REQUESTED OR AS, AS REQUIRED OR NEEDED BY THE INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT.

AND THE DISTRICTS GET TO DECIDE WHEN THEY GET THOSE FUNDS.

BASICALLY, THAT'S THE VOTING. MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, IT'S ALL SET FORTH WITHIN THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION OR THE PROPOSED PROPOSED RULES. BUT AS SOON AS THEY ISSUE DEBT THEY'RE GOING TO BE OBLIGATED.

THE DISTRICT WILL BE OBLIGATED TO ESTABLISH A LEVY AND THEN BEGIN COLLECTING ON THOSE TAXES.

OKAY. WHAT CAN WE DO IF ANY OF THAT HAPPENS IN OUR TOWN? WHAT CAN WE DO TO ASSIST OUR RESIDENTS? MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. COUNCILMEMBER FUTURE RESIDENTS.

IT'S GOING TO BE WE'RE ALL GOING TO LEARN TOGETHER.

TO BE HONEST, AS FAR AS WITHIN THE STATE OF ARIZONA, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO DO WHAT WE BELIEVE IS REASONABLE AND NECESSARY TO TRY TO INFORM AND EDUCATE WHAT, WHAT IT IS AND PROVIDE THEM AS MUCH RESOURCES WE CAN.

IT ADMITTEDLY, IT'S NOT GOING TO FEEL GOOD, RIGHT? WHEN WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DIRECTLY SERVE BECAUSE THIS IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE BOARD.

RIGHT, RIGHT. SO YOU KNOW, MY FEAR IS SEEING AFTER THE AFTER EFFECT THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TOLD THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO ALL OF A SUDDEN GET A BILL IN THE MAIL. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW WHAT IT IS AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME SCREAMING HERE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO SAY, I'M SORRY, YOU GOT TO GO TO THE STATE.

THE STATE DECIDED THIS ONE AND THEY'VE TAKEN IT OUT OF OUR HANDS.

OH, WELL. YEAH. MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER COMERFORD, I THINK THOSE ARE THE EXACT CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED BY THIS STAFF FOR THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS.

RIGHT. AND THIS WAS ALL BROUGHT TO THE STATE, I'M GUESSING, BY THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.

AGAIN, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE CENTRAL HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, RIGHT? LET'S DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO, TO MESS WITH THE RESIDENTS, BUILD THEIR STUFF AND LEAVE AND THEN LEAVE EVERYTHING TO.

GOVERNMENT TO TRY TO WHATEVER. I GET IT, I GET IT, BUT I CAN'T BELIEVE WE HAVE LEGISLATURES THAT THINK THIS IS OKAY. THAT'S SAD. THAT'S REALLY SAD.

OH, WELL, MY HOUSE IS PAID FOR. MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

CONTINUING ON WITH JUST A FEW MORE HERE. SENATE BILL 1787 IS A EXEMPTIONS.

THIS BILL CREATES REALLY LIKE TWO COMPETING APPEAL PATHS WHICH AGAIN, IS A SITUATION WHERE IT'S GOING TO CREATE CONFUSION FOR OUR PROPERTY OWNERS. AND MUNICIPALITY GUARANTEES ATTORNEY'S FEES IN THESE SITUATIONS FOR THE DEVELOPERS IF THEY PREVAIL.

BUT THE CITIES, HOWEVER, CANNOT RECOVER DEFENSE COSTS.

SO UNDER THIS BILL, A MINOR MISCALCULATION COULD WAIVE THE ENTIRE EXTRACTION, LEAVING TAXPAYERS TO PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT DEVELOPERS SHOULD FUND. SO THIS ESSENTIALLY GOES BACK TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE SAME ISSUE OF INFRASTRUCTURE BEING CREATED AND BEING PAID FOR ON THE BACKS OF, OF RESIDENTS.

IN SHORT. HOUSE BILL. I'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DON'T JUST PUT IT IN THE COST OF THE HOUSE.

OH, I KNOW THAT WOULD BE ETHICAL. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU SHOULD DO.

SO SOMEBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PAYING FOR.

SOUNDS LIKE I GOT A JOB AFTER I'M DONE HERE. THAT ONE WAS SPONSORED BY PETERSON.

OUT OF QUEEN CREEK. THE NEXT ONE. HOUSE BILL 2917 INVOLVES GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE SAFEGUARDS, PRIVACY ACT. THIS ONE IS FROM MARSHALL AND SNOWFLAKE, AND THIS ONE DEALS WITH LP'S LICENSE PLATE READERS AND ESSENTIALLY MAKES THEM ILLEGAL IN, IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT PRIVACY AND ABOUT HOW THAT INFORMATION IS BEING USED.

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I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE THE TOWN SPECIFICALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OBVIOUSLY UTILIZES THE LP HOURS TO GREAT SUCCESS.

THAT INFORMATION IS NOT SEARCHED OR QUERIED FOR THE PURPOSE OF FINDING THINGS OUT ABOUT ANY GIVEN RESIDENT, BUT ARE SPECIFICALLY USED WHEN CRIMES ARE COMMITTED.

THE LICENSE PLATE READERS WILL SEND AUTOMATIC INFORMATION TO POLICE OFFICERS INDICATING THAT A HIT HAS BEEN PROVIDED ON A SPECIFIC VEHICLE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN A CRIME.

SO IT HELPS US TO APPREHEND OFFENDERS. IT HAS BEEN USED MULTIPLE TIMES, AND CHIEF COULD GIVE YOU LOTS OF GREAT EXAMPLES OF HOW IT'S BEEN USED TO APPREHEND PEOPLE WHO WERE PREYING ON THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO WE HAVE REGISTERED IN OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL.

I WILL SAY THE PREVIOUS BILL ALSO IS BEEN TRANSMITTED TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

THE LEAGUE IS STANDING IN OPPOSITION TO THE PREVIOUS BILL ON EXEMPTIONS ASKING THE THE GOVERNOR TO VETO THAT BILL.

AT THIS POINT, I DON'T, I BELIEVE THAT THE LPR BILL IS NOT MOVING AT THIS TIME.

IT IS MOVING. IT IS MOVING AT THIS TIME. PASS THE HOUSE AND ON TO THE SENATE.

AND THE LAST ONE HERE IS HCR TR26 2016 FEES TAXES WHICH BASICALLY THIS ONE FREEZES ALL OF OUR FEES UNTIL 2030 TILL JUNE 30TH OF 2030. SO WE CAN'T HAVE ANY INCREASES IN UTILITY FEES AND IMPACT FEES.

SO THE, THE EFFECT ON THE TOWN OBVIOUSLY IS WE, WE HAVE TO DO RATE INCREASES, AS YOU ALL KNOW, BECAUSE THE COST TO DELIVER SERVICES INCREASE AND WE INCREASE THE FEES BASED ON WHAT IT COSTS US TO DELIVER THOSE SERVICES. THE SAME IS TRUE WITH IMPACT FEES. IMPACT FEES ARE BASED ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO CONSTRUCT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NECESSARY FOR GROWTH, THAT NEEDS TO BE PAID FOR BY THE GROWTH THAT IS OCCURRING.

IT'S GROWTH PAYING FOR GROWTH, AS THIS COUNCIL HAS CONTINUALLY PREACHED IN THIS COMMUNITY OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND THIS WOULD ESSENTIALLY FREEZE THAT FROM JULY 1ST OF 26 UNTIL JUNE 30TH OF 2030. UNLESS UNLESS IT GOES TO THE VOTERS AND THE VOTERS APPROVE IT WITH A 60% PERCENTAGE OF THE VOTES IN FAVOR, WHICH AS WE ALL KNOW, PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO COST THEM MORE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THOSE COSTS ARE NEEDED IN ORDER TO PAY FOR THE VERY THINGS THAT THEY NEED.

SO HOW WOULD YOU PAY FOR THINGS? JUST RUN BIG DEFICITS, MORATORIUM AND STOP EVERYTHING.

I THINK WE'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME VERY SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT WHAT PROJECTS GO FORWARD AND WHAT'S NECESSARY FOR THOSE PROJECTS TO BE CONSTRUCTED. UNTIL 2030, 2030. AND I MEAN, I'VE CALLED AND WILL CONTINUE TO CALL, BUT OUR OUR OTHERS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS, I ASSUME THE LEAGUE IS YES, WE STAND IN OPPOSITION AND THE LEAGUE IS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ONE AS WELL.

YES, WE PUT THIS ONE FORWARD. THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY FROM OUR VERY OWN KETCHELL IN MARANA.

REALLY? YES, BUT IT IS A STRIKER, BILL. YES. SO IT WAS HER BILL ORIGINALLY.

IT'S A COMPLETE STRIKER. WHAT WAS IT BEFORE? STRIKER? I DON'T REMEMBER WHO WAS THE ONE CONCERNING WHAT WAS SUBMITTED.

THE STRIKER. BUT SHE DIDN'T INTRODUCE YOU. LET SOMEBODY HAVE IT.

IT'S HERS. SHE LET SOMEBODY HAVE IT. THAT'S VERY CONCERNING.

THAT'S WHY. THAT'S WHY ELECTIONS MATTER. SO THOSE ARE THE THE BILLS.

I'M SORRY. THAT'S A LOT OF BAD NEWS. YOU KNOW, WE WENT, YOU KNOW, FROM SOME REALLY GREAT NEWS ABOUT STATE OF THE TOWN AND THE FOUNDER'S DAY PARADE AND ALL THESE OTHER WONDERFUL EVENTS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE BILLS ARE CERTAINLY DAUNTING AND CONCERNING.

WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR THEM, OPPOSE THE ONES THAT WE THINK ARE GOING TO HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THE TOWN AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

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I THINK YOU PROBABLY HEARD ON SB 2999. IT'S A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE PEOPLE LIKE ERIK AND YANNI AND PETE WHO REALLY UNDERSTAND THIS A LOT.

I SAY EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE AN ERIK MONTAGUE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THOSE THINGS IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, I THINK IS A REAL GIFT AND IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG ISSUE.

AND THE, THE THE NATURE OF THE IMPACTS ARE COMPLEX, UNLESS THEY'RE BROKEN DOWN IN WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN CLEARLY UNDERSTAND. BUT I THINK THE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS VERY CLEARLY IT'S A NEGATIVE IMPACT FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

AND THAT'S THE THING THAT HAS THE TEAM AND I KNOW ALL OF YOU CONCERNED ALSO HAS, CAN HAVE MAJOR EFFECTS ON NEW GROWTH.

EXACT SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE PUTTING THIS STUFF FORWARD ARE GOING TO CUT OFF THEMSELVES BECAUSE THERE'S NO MONEY TO DO IT. THERE'S NO MONEY TO DO IT. WELL, HOPEFULLY THE AGENCY THAT HANDLES THIS WILL ADMINISTER IT, YOU KNOW, AND ONLY ALLOW THEM TO PAY THEMSELVES BACK FOR TRUE COST, YOU KNOW, AND NOT OPERATE IT IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS THEM TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WE WHAT WHAT'S THE WORDING? THEY USE EXTRAORDINARY ORDINARY INFRASTRUCTURE, EXTRAORDINARY INFRASTRUCTURE.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN OPTIMISTIC, BUT WHO KNOWS. SO THANK YOU.

MR. ROZEMA. SORRY. D3 ITEM D3 RELATING TO BUDGET

[ Relating to Budget; discussion, direction and possible action regarding development of the fiscal year 2026/2027 budget, including proposed budget initiatives and expenditures (Terry Rozema)]

DISCUSSION, DIRECTION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING DEVELOPMENT OF THE FISCAL YEAR 26-27 BUDGET, INCLUDING PROPOSED BUDGET INITIATIVES AND EXPENDITURES.

MR. ROZEMA. MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THIS IS A STANDING ITEM THAT WE HAVE LEADING UP TO THE FINAL APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY DISCUSSIONS OR ANY DIRECTION GIVEN BY THE COUNCIL TO STAFF WITH REGARD TO OUR FISCAL YEAR BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 27.

MR. MAYOR. YES. OKAY. I'M CONFUSED. I THOUGHT.

THIS IS AN ITEM FOR YOU. OKAY. WHERE'S YIANNIS AS COUNCILMEMBER COMERFORD ASKED.

AND SO USUALLY WE DO A TENTATIVE BUDGET MANAGERS TENTATIVE BUDGET.

THEN WE GO TO THE SECOND STAGE OF THAT WHERE WE CAN'T GO ANY HIGHER.

AND THEN WE HAVE A VOTE, I THINK JUNE OR JULY.

OKAY. WE MISSED IT IF I'M HEARING THIS RIGHT, WE'VE MISSED A WHOLE PROCESS HERE.

SO, SO THIS IS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT WE'VE PUT ON EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST 3 OR 4 YEARS THAT ALLOWS YOU, IT ALLOWS YOU, US AS COUNCILMEMBERS TO ADD THINGS TO THE BUDGET THAT ARE POTENTIALLY IMPORTANT TO US.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I HEARD BECAUSE I WE DO THAT EVERY YEAR.

I PUT THE SAME THING ON THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR.