Jul 29, 2026 Planning Commission

[ MARANA PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOTICE AND AGENDA 11555 W. Civic Center Drive, Marana, Arizona 85653 Council Chambers, July 29, 2026, at or after 6:00 PM Thomas Schnee, Chairman  Ronald Hill, Vice Chair David Bowen, Commissioner John Flint, Commissioner John McIntyre, Commissioner Joseph Parsons, Commissioner   Sharon Tyson, Commissioner   Pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the Marana Planning Commission and to the general public that the Planning Commission will hold a meeting open to the public on July 29, 2026, at or after 6:00 PM located in the Council Chambers of the Marana Municipal Complex, 11555 W. Civic Center Drive, Marana, Arizona. ACTION MAY BE TAKEN BY THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEM LISTED ON THIS AGENDA. Revisions to the agenda can occur up to 24 hours prior to the meeting. Revisions to the agenda appear in italics. Marana Planning Commission Welcome to this public meeting of the Marana Planning Commission. The Commission consists of seven citizens who are appointed by the Town Council and serve without pay. For the most part, the Commission acts in an advisory capacity to the Town Council on matters related to land use planning and zoning. Citizens are encouraged to address the Commission with their concerns on agenda items during the public testimony portions of the meeting, or other issues at the Call to the Public.   Meeting Times Regular Commission meetings are usually held on the last Wednesday of each month at 6:00 PM at the Marana Municipal Complex, although the date or time may change and additional meetings may be called at other times and/or places. Speaking at Meetings If you are interested in speaking to the Commission during the Call to the Public or Public Hearings, you must fill out a speaker card (located inside the Council Chambers) and deliver it to the Planning Commission Secretary prior to the convening of the meeting. All persons attending the Commission meeting, whether speaking to the Commission or not, are expected to observe the Commission rules, as well as the rules of politeness, propriety, decorum and good conduct. Any person interfering with the meeting in any way, or acting rudely or loudly will be removed from the meeting and will not be allowed to return. Accessibility To better serve the citizens of Marana and others attending our meetings, the Council Chambers are wheelchair and handicapped accessible. Persons with a disability may request a reasonable accommodation, such as a sign language interpreter, by contacting the Town Clerk at (520) 382-1999. Requests should be made as early as possible to arrange the accommodation. Agendas Copies of the Agenda are available the day of the meeting inside the Council Chambers or online at www.maranaaz.gov. This Notice and Agenda posted no later than 24 hours prior to the meeting, at the Marana Municipal Complex, 11555 W. Civic Center Drive, the Marana Operations Center, 5100 W. Ina Road, and at www.maranaaz.gov. Public Comments Please submit public comments to ldzieman@maranaaz.gov. Any submitted comments from the public will be provided to the Commission and included within the Commission packet file and a summary of the comments submitted will be reflected in the official Commission meeting minutes of that meeting. All emailed comments must be received by the Town no later than 12:00 p.m. (noon) on the day of the meeting to be included.  ]

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PAUL'S PRESENTATION FOR YOU AS WELL. DO YOU WANT TO COME UP, PAUL? GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS PAUL OLAND WITH PARADIGM LAND DESIGN.

I'M REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER WHICH IS ORO VALLEY CHURCH OF THE NAZARENE.

AUSTIN DID A GREAT JOB SO I'M GOING TO GET INTO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.

AND THEN AFTER I SPEAK, PASTOR CHRIS COLLINS IS GOING TO GET UP AND JUST SPEAK FOR 30 TO 60S ABOUT THE CHURCH TO GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT OF IDEA ABOUT WHAT THE CHURCH IS ALL ABOUT.

SO ON THIS SLIDE HERE WE SEE THE SITE PLAN IS ON THE LEFT AND I'LL GO THROUGH THAT.

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IT'S A MULTI USE BUILDING. IT'S GOT A GYMNASIUM AREA.

IT'S GOT WORSHIP SPACE. IT'S GOT A LITTLE BIT OF OFFICE SPACE.

IT'S GOT OTHER MEETING SPACE. BUT PRIMARY FUNCTION HERE IS WORSHIP WITH A SPORTS ELEMENT.

AND AUSTIN MENTIONED THE THE 40FT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR WHICH IS WHICH IS AGAIN THE ONLY DEVIATION FROM TOWN CODE.

THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I'M STANDING HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING HEIGHT.

AND THAT IS FOR, AS HE SAID, THE VOLLEYBALL HEIGHT, CEILING HEIGHT THAT'S NEEDED IN A GYMNASIUM.

BUT ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THAT AN EXTRA TEN FEET ISN'T NOTHING, WE WENT AHEAD AND DESIGNED THE BUILDING TO STAIR STEP UP FROM LOWEST TO HIGHEST FROM FROM WEST TO EAST, SO THAT ON THE WEST SIDE IT WILL BE 28 TO 30FT, WHICH MIRRORS THE EXISTING ZONING.

AND THEN THE MIDDLE PART WILL STEP UP A FEW FEET.

AND THEN THE EASTERN PART ALONG TWIN PEAKS WILL ACTUALLY BE THE TALLER PART.

THAT'S GOING TO BE 40FT AT MOST. AND SO THE IDEA THERE IS THAT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE STAIR STEPPING, YOU SHOULDN'T SEE EVEN THE TALLER PARTS OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE THE THE 30 FOOT PART ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF IT, WHICH IS WHAT ZONING CURRENTLY ALLOWS, WOULD EFFECTIVELY BLOCK THOSE TALLER PARTS.

SO WE'VE DESIGNED IT SPECIFICALLY TO HAVE, HAVE NO IMPACT.

FOR THE ONE THING THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR PERMISSION FOR.

WE'VE ALSO GOT PARKING, WHICH HAS SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE GOT A CONCENTRATION OF IT IN THE FRONT THERE.

OUR PRIMARY ACCESS IS OFF TWIN PEAKS ROAD WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT COMING IN.

CAN YOU SEE? CAN'T SEE THE MOUSE. AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE'VE GOT THE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED MORE FOR HELPING OVCN CONTINUE TO GROW THEIR THRIVING SPORTS MINISTRY. SO YOU CAN SEE THE FIELDS WE'VE GOT THERE.

WE'VE GOT FOOTBALL, WE'VE GOT A SHORT SIGHTED SOCCER.

WE'VE GOT AN ACTIVITY FIELD, WE'VE GOT SOME, PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

THE IDEA REALLY, AS I SAID, IS TO ALLOW OVCN TO HAVE A HOME FOR ITS, GROWING SPORTS MINISTRY. CHRIS WILL TALK ABOUT IT, BUT THEY SERVE A TON OF KIDS PRIMARILY UP IN THE ORO VALLEY AND SURROUNDING AREAS, BUT THE FACILITIES THAT THEY USE ARE PRIMARILY RENTED BECAUSE THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF FACILITIES.

SO THEY'RE, RENTED FROM, SCHOOLS AND OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE THIS KIND OF SPACE.

SO IT'S SCHEDULING IS SOMETIMES THERE'S CONFLICTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THE CHURCH HAS THE VISION HERE TO SORT OF CONTROL THEIR OWN DESTINY ON SITE HERE.

AND SO THEIR, PLAN IS TO BUILD SPORTS MINISTRY FACILITIES AS PART OF THIS CAMPUS.

YOU'VE ALSO, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A WIDE GREEN SWATH ALL THE WAY AROUND THAT IS DRAINAGE.

AND THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF DRAINAGE COMING ACROSS THIS ENTIRE AREA OFF THE TWORDALITAS.

THE TWIN PEAKS ROAD WHEN IT WAS BUILT, IT ACTUALLY INCLUDED A NUMBER OF CULVERTS TO CAPTURE, COLLECT AND DIRECT ALL THAT DRAINAGE UNDER TWIN PEAKS AND LET IT CONTINUE ON TO THE WEST.

SOME OF THOSE CULVERTS WERE DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE CERTAIN SIZES OF ANIMALS, AND SOME OF THEM WERE DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE OTHER SIZES OF ANIMALS.

SO WORKING WITH ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING. WE'VE ACTUALLY ADJUSTED THIS SITE HERE TO CONTINUE THAT VISION, AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A LATER SLIDE. THE SLIDE, THE PICTURES ON THE RIGHT ARE ACTUALLY FROM THEIR ORO VALLEY CAMPUS.

AND SO I THIS IS PRELIMINARY. WE DON'T HAVE DESIGNS TO THIS LEVEL OF THIS BUILDING.

SO I JUST THOUGHT I'D PUT THESE IN HERE TO GIVE YOU SORT OF A FLAVOR OF THE KIND OF ARCHITECTURE THAT OVCN PUTS IN, WHICH IS GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT MATERIALS AND TEXTURES AND BROKEN UP THE MASSING THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES WITH, WITH MODERN CHURCH DESIGN IS TO MAKE WHAT IS LEGITIMATELY A LARGE BUILDING NOT LOOK SO LARGE.

AND JUST FOR, FOR PERSPECTIVE, THIS BUILDING HERE OCCUPIES ABOUT 8% OF THE SITE.

SO IT'S A BIG SHAPE ON THE MAP, BUT IT'S NOT A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE AREA.

JUST FOR COMPARISON, IF THIS WERE A TWO HOMES PER ACRE SUBDIVISION, WHICH WOULD BE AT THE VERY BOTTOM END OF THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION, WHICH GOES FROM 2 TO 18, YOU WOULD END UP WITH MAYBE 15 TO 20% MORE BUILDING COVERAGE

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SO JUST RUNNING THROUGH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SUPPORT THIS REQUEST, WE ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THIS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT BASICALLY IT SAYS RESIDENTIAL APPROPRIATE DENSITIES FROM 2 TO 18 HOMES PER ACRE.

ALSO NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS, OF COURSE, WOULD BE IN THERE AS A MATTER OF FEDERAL LAND USE PROTECTION AND OTHER THINGS.

AND ESPECIALLY ALONG MAJOR CORRIDORS LIKE THE TWIN PEAKS ROAD CORRIDOR, YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE SOME DENSER USES LIKE THIS.

AND AGAIN, EVERYTHING WE'RE PROPOSING IS ALREADY ALLOWED.

I WOULDN'T NEED TO BE STANDING HERE AND THEY COULD GO AND MOVE FORWARD IF WE DIDN'T NEED THIS ADDITIONAL BUILDING HEIGHT FOR THE GYM, WHICH AGAIN SHOULD BE BASICALLY INVISIBLE FROM THE WEST.

LAND USE COMPATIBILITY. I MENTIONED THE CHANNEL, SO THE CHANNEL YOU CAN SEE IT'S WIDER ALONG THE WEST SIDE, IT WIDENS OUT TO AT LEAST 100FT IN SOME PLACES.

IT'S MORE WE'VE ALSO PUT THE SPORTS AREAS TO THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE.

SO AWAY FROM THOSE NEIGHBORS AS WELL. SO THAT'LL BE 100FT OF BASICALLY OPEN SPACE.

THE CHANNEL WILL BE RELANDSCAPED TO THE EXTENT FEASIBLE.

WE'LL WORK WITH THE TOWN ON THAT OF COURSE. THE LITTLE PICTURE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT IS A PICTURE OF DESERT FALCON.

AND THERE'S CURRENTLY A FAIR AMOUNT OF EROSION THAT OCCURS ON DESERT FALCON, WHICH IS UNIMPROVED AT THIS POINT.

THE CHURCH WILL BE IMPROVING DESERT FALCON AS, OUR SORT OF BACK DOOR ACCESS.

AND THAT WILL ALSO CLEAN UP THAT EROSION ISSUE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF MAILBOXES OUT THERE TOO. SO THAT'LL CLEAN UP THAT ISSUE AS WELL.

AND THAT IS A TOWN ROAD. SO THE TOWN WILL BE RECEIVING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE FOR FREE.

AND THEN JUST AS FAR AS THE TWIN PEAKS CORRIDOR GOES, THE MAP ON THE RIGHT IS A MAP OF OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE RECENTLY GONE IN OR ARE GOING IN.

YOU CAN SEE MERITAGE IN PURPLE THAT'S BUILT LENNAR AND YELLOW IS BUILT.

LENNAR IN RED IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. MATTAMY HOMES IN BLUE.

I THINK THAT'S ABOUT TO START IF IT HASN'T STARTED CONSTRUCTION.

FAIRFIELD HOMES IN ORANGE, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM US THAT'S FULLY ZONED AS WELL.

HASN'T STARTED. AND THEN THERE'S A BYZANTINE CHURCH PROPOSAL IN THE PINK WHICH I KNOW LESS ABOUT, BUT ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL STUFF IS CERTAINLY THERE OR COMING AND IT'S ALL ZONED.

SO THERE'S AN ESTABLISHED INTENSITY OF LAND USE GOING UP THE TWIN PEAKS CORRIDOR, WHICH, REALLY IS APPROPRIATE.

I MEAN, THE TWIN PEAKS ROAD WAS A MASSIVE EXPENDITURE OF OUR TAXPAYER MONEY REGIONALLY.

IT SHOULD BE USED TO SERVE A LITTLE MORE INTENSIVE USES ALONG IT.

IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE, AGAIN, THE CHURCH WILL BE BUILDING DESERT FALCON LANE.

WE WILL BE MAKING MODIFICATIONS TO TWIN PEAKS ROAD TO ENSURE SAFETY.

ALL THE UTILITIES ARE AVAILABLE OR WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE SITE.

AND THAT INCLUDES FOR THE TOWN REALLY. THE TOWN'S GOT SEVERAL WATER ZONES KIND OF CHUNKING THEIR WAY UP TWIN PEAKS ROAD ABOUT EVERY HUNDRED FEET THEY NEED A NEW WATER ZONE JUST TO MAINTAIN GOOD PRESSURE FOR EVERYBODY.

AND AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, WILL BE PULLING THAT LINE ALL THE WAY UP FROM WHERE IT CURRENTLY TERMINATES, JUST NORTH OF CAMINO DE MANANA. SEWER WILL ALSO BE BROUGHT UP.

I KNOW THAT'S PIMA COUNTY, BUT IT'S ALL PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, SO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WILL ALSO BE PART OF THIS PROJECT.

I MENTIONED THE CULVERTS UNDER TWIN PEAKS. THERE'S A PICTURE OF ONE OF THEM ON THE LEFT.

I THINK THE LARGEST ONES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED WERE FOR MULE DEER.

AND SO WORKING WITH TOWN OF MARANA ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING WE ADJUSTED AND SOFTENED THAT PERIMETER CHANNEL TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WILL ALLOW WHATEVER WILDLIFE IS COMING UNDERNEATH TWIN PEAKS ROAD.

IT CAN CONTINUE COMFORTABLY ALONG THESE CHANNELS.

AND WHERE WE DO CROSS THE CHANNELS, WHICH IS ONLY GOING TO BE AT TWO SPOTS.

WE WILL MAKE SURE TO SIZE THOSE CULVERTS FOR THE SAME KIND OF ANIMALS THAT THE TWIN PEAKS CULVERTS WERE SIZED FOR.

SO THERE WILL BE NO BLOCKAGE OF WILDLIFE MOVEMENT.

TWIN PEAKS ROAD IS ALREADY A SIGNIFICANT BARRIER.

BUT WHAT WHAT WE'LL BE DOING IS CONTINUING THE SAFE ACCESS THAT THAT THE ANIMALS ARE PROVIDED UNDER TWIN PEAKS WILL ALLOW THAT TO CONTINUE PAST THIS SITE.

AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET PASTOR CHRIS TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE CHURCH.

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THANKS, PAUL. WELL, ON BEHALF OF THE OUR ENTIRE CHURCH FAMILY, OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM, AND OUR CHURCH BOARD, WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE TOWN OF MARANA, TO STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION FOR WORKING WITH US ON THE ZONING REQUEST FOR OUR PROPERTY.

OVCN MAY BE A UNIQUE CHURCH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A UNIQUE MISSION.

EVERY CHURCH OPERATES AND EXISTS TO LIVE OUT THE GREAT COMMISSION THAT CHRIST GAVE US IN MATTHEW 28.

THIS MISSION IS TO GO AND MAKE DISCIPLES, AND IT GIVES VISION AND DIRECTION TO THE BIG C CHURCH AS WELL AS TO LOCAL CHURCHES.

AS OVCN HAS GROWN OVER THE YEARS, ONE OF OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES HAS BEEN TO GROW A HEALTHY CHURCH, NOT A LARGE CHURCH. WHEN PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY REMAINS THE FOCUS OF OUTREACH AND MINISTRY, A HEALTHY CHURCH DEVELOPS AND HEALTHY CHURCHES GROW.

THEY GROW BECAUSE PEOPLE SEE WHAT GOD IS DOING AND THEY WANT TO BE A PART OF IT.

THEY SEE THE WAY THAT THE CHURCH MINISTERS, AND THEY WANT TO BE THE RECIPIENT OF THAT.

AND THE CHURCH HAS A RESPONSIBILITY. OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO PROCLAIM THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD AND TO MEET PEOPLE IN THEIR MOMENT AND PLACE OF NEED.

AS AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS A GATHERING PLACE FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, WE BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT HEALTHY AND THRIVING CHURCHES HELP CREATE HEALTHY AND THRIVING COMMUNITIES. AND IT'S BEEN IN OUR HEART FOR A DECADE OR MORE THAT OVCN WOULD FIND A WAY TO BE A PART OF THE TOWN OF MARANA.

WHAT WE SEE HERE IS A COMMUNITY THAT IS GROWING AND PROVIDING THE TYPES OF ASSETS THAT HELP FAMILIES FLOURISH.

WE'VE BEEN HOPEFUL AND PRAYERFUL THAT IN GOD'S TIMING, THAT AN OVCN CAMPUS IN MARANA WOULD BECOME AN ASSET TO THE TOWN OF MARANA AND THE RESIDENTS THAT CALL IT HOME, THAT FAMILIES CURRENTLY LIVING HERE OR MOVING INTO THE AREA WOULD SEE A CHURCH THAT CARES DEEPLY FOR THEIR KIDS AND FOR THE ENTIRE FAMILY, THAT THEY WOULD SEE A CHURCH THAT'S INVESTING IN FACILITIES AND ACTIVITIES AND MINISTRY FOR THE NEXT GENERATION THAT WILL HAVE AN ETERNAL IMPACT ON THEIR KIDS AND A PLACE THAT BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER FOR WORSHIP.

WE FOUND PROPERTY ON A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE IN LINE WITH CURRENT AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF ADDITIONAL ASSETS THAT WILL ADD VALUE TO THE ENTIRETY OF THE MARANA EXPERIENCE. SO WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO COMMUNICATE AND LISTEN TO RESIDENTS AROUND OUR PROPERTY TO TRY AND FIND WAYS TO ALLEVIATE CONCERNS AND TO SOLVE EXISTING AND FUTURE CHALLENGES, AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING MORE OF THAT.

WE HAVE A BURDEN AS A PEOPLE, A FAITH COMMUNITY, TO PROVIDE THE TYPE OF CHURCH FAMILY THAT WILL MAKE AN ETERNAL DIFFERENCE FOR PEOPLE.

WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW EXCITED OVCN IS TO BE PART OF THE TOWN OF MARANA.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY JUST ADD ONE THING THAT I FORGOT TO BRING UP EARLIER.

MY APOLOGIES. I DID WANT TO SAY THE TOWN DID RECEIVE TWO LETTERS AFTER THE STAFF REPORT WAS FINALIZED.

SO THOSE TWO LETTERS THAT WE RECEIVED ARE NOT IN THE STAFF REPORT.

HOWEVER, LAURA SHOULD HAVE DISTRIBUTED COPIES TO YOU, SO YOU SHOULD HAVE THEM UP ON THE DAIS.

THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU. AS I SAID, I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. OKAY. CAN WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC FIRST BEFORE WE DELIBERATE.

SURE. OKAY. WE CAN DO THAT. AT THIS POINT, WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.

DO WE HAVE ANY. YES. MR. CHAIRMAN, THE FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE TED.

TED BEDNAR, FOLLOWED BY GREG ARIES. THANK YOU.

I KNOW THAT THIS IS A. THE REZONING IS FOR HEIGHT, BUT MY MAIN CONCERN AND I.

YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THE HEIGHT DOESN'T GET DOESN'T GET APPROVED, THEY CAN STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS WHOLE THING.

BUT MY MAIN CONCERN IS THE IMPACT OF THIS. THE LIGHT IMPACT, I MEAN, THAT'S THIS WHOLE AREA IS A DARK SKY AREA.

I'VE NEVER REALLY SEEN THESE PLANS. SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THE INTENTION IS TO HAVE THESE FIELDS LIT.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE BUNCH OF LIGHTING IN THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT'S MANDATORY.

BUT IF THESE FIELDS ARE GOING TO BE LIT, I MEAN, THIS WHOLE AREA, THERE'S NO STREET LIGHTS, NONE OF THE SUBDIVISIONS HAVE STREET LIGHTS. I MEAN, IT'S DARK ON A NEW MOON NIGHT YOU CAN EVEN SEE THE MILKY WAY.

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I MEAN, WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE STARS ANYMORE.

THAT'S MY ONLY THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN WITH THIS WHOLE THING.

AND AGAIN, I KNOW IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HEIGHT OF ONE PIECE OF THIS BUILDING, BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANT TO SAY.

I'D LOVE TO SEE THE PLANS AND IF THEY ARE PLANNING ON LIGHTING THESE FIELDS, BECAUSE THAT WOULD JUST MESS UP THE WHOLE DARK SKY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN AN IMPACT STUDY DONE ON THE EFFECTS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THIS DARK SKY AREA.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. OKAY. APPRECIATE IT.

[APPLAUSE] NEXT UP WE HAVE GREG ARIES FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY BRANDON.

THANK YOU. MY PROPERTY ACTUALLY BORDERS THE LAND ITSELF.

WE BACK UP TO PROBABLY THE FARTHEST TO THE I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE EAST OR WEST WHERE ALONG THE BACK SIDE OF THAT. AND I HAVE TWO COMMENTS.

ONE IS WHEN I HEARD TONIGHT THAT THE TOWN'S MASTER PLAN COULD BE HIGHER DENSITY HOMES IN THE AREA, WHICH WAS ALWAYS IN THE BACK OF MY MIND THAT THAT COULD BE THE CASE, I BOUGHT MY LAND BECAUSE I COULD HAVE AN ACRE PLOT.

AND WE WERE TOLD YEARS AGO WHEN WE BOUGHT IT, THAT EVERYBODY AROUND US WOULD HAVE AN ACRE LOT.

BUT WHEN I HEARD THAT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, I FORGET WHAT THE TERM YOU USED COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM TWO HOMES PER ACRE TO 18 HOMES PER ACRE.

AND AS WE SEE THE DEVELOPMENTS GOING IN UP TWIN PEAKS, WHERE THE DENSITY OF HOMES ARE JUST SKYROCKETING, THAT BECOMES A BIG CONCERN TO ME. SO WE HAVE TWO PROBLEMS HERE.

DO WE WANT A CHURCH IN THE BACK IN OUR BACKYARD, OR DO I WANT 60, 70, 80 HOMES IN MY BACKYARD? BECAUSE NEITHER OF THOSE ARE WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR WHEN I PURCHASED MY HOME.

SO I KNOW SEVERAL OF US THAT BACK UP TO THAT HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHAT WOULD I RATHER HAVE? AND TO LET YOU KNOW, I WOULD RATHER HAVE ONE ACRE LOTS BEHIND ME, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S A POSSIBILITY AS MARANA BEGINS TO PLAN GOING UP TWIN PEAKS. SO THEN I WOULD RATHER HAVE A HOME, RATHER HAVE A CHURCH BEHIND MY HOME THAN 60, 70, 80, OR EVEN 100 HOMES THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE IN THAT SPACE.

AND SO I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE HEIGHT THAT PART IS UNKNOWN TO US AND HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT OUR HOME, BUT JUST THE DENSITY OF HOME VERSUS THE CHURCH BEING BEHIND ME, WE WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE THE CHURCH BEHIND US.

THANK YOU. OUR LAST SPEAKER IS ASHLEY BRANDON.

I AM A RESIDENT ON DESERT FALCON. IN FACT, ONE OF THE FIRST PICTURES THEY SHOWED, I WAS LIKE THE THIRD HOUSE IN FROM WHERE THEY'RE GOING.

LOTS OF CONCERNS TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT WAS SAID, I THINK THAT I'D ACTUALLY PREFER HOMES BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME TO LIVE IN OUR AREA, NOT COMING AND GOING IN A WAY THAT WE CAN'T DETERMINE WHO'S WHO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MY BIG CONCERN IS I MOVED INTO THIS ONE WAY DIRT ROAD FOR THE SAFETY AND QUAINT FEELING OF A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE MY KIDS CAN PLAY AND THERE'S NO ONE RACING DOWN MY STREET OR PARKING ON MY STREET WHERE I CANNOT GET THROUGH.

WE'VE HAD ONE INCIDENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THAT DID OCCUR, NOT RELATED TO ANYTHING.

BUT THERE WAS A PARTY AND THERE WAS PARKING AND THERE WERE PEOPLE IN MY DRIVEWAY I COULDN'T GET IN. SO I DON'T SEE WITH SEEING HOW OVCN HAS BEEN IN ORO VALLEY AND HOW IT QUICKLY OVERCOMES THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS MUCH LARGER WITH MULTIPLE WAYS IN AND OUT.

MY CONCERN IS HOW OUR STREET IS PROTECTED FROM BEING OVERTAKEN WHEN THEY HAVE THESE BEAUTIFUL LARGE EVENTS, WHICH ARE WONDERFUL BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PARK ON TWIN PEAKS.

AND I KNOW THERE'S PARKING TO SIZE RATIO, BUT WE KNOW HOW THAT GOES ON EVENTS.

SO AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE LOTS OF EVENTS.

SO THAT'S ONE OF MY BIG CONCERNS. OKAY, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. NO MORE SPEAKER CARDS FOR. NO, MR. CHAIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THIS AND. COMMISSIONER FLINT ALWAYS HAVE QUESTIONS.

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AND LET ME SAY THAT THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THE PROCESS.

AND I THINK IT'S ADEQUATELY BEEN STATED THAT WE'RE HERE BASICALLY BECAUSE OF THE TEN FOOT HEIGHT.

OTHERWISE WE THERE WOULDN'T BE A NEED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

BUT NONETHELESS, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. GREATLY APPRECIATED.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE LIGHTING FOR STARTERS. I'VE DONE A LOT OF SPORTS FIELDS IN MY CAREER LONG AGO, AND NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LONG PAST METAL HALIDE AND ALL THAT INTO LED LIGHTING THAT IS PRETTY DIRECTIONALLY BORN.

BUT CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE LIGHTING, THE HEIGHT OF THE LIGHT POLES AND HOW IT'S GOING TO BE CONTAINED? SURE, I CAN AT THIS PRELIMINARY STAGE, I CAN GIVE YOU THE BEST ANSWER POSSIBLE.

OKAY. SO IN TERMS OF LIGHTING FIELDS, I THINK, I THINK LIT FIELDS GET A PRETTY BAD RAP BECAUSE MOST PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAVE VERY WELL LIT FIELDS THAT ARE NOT SUBJECT TO ANY LOCAL ORDINANCES IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF SCREENING OR SHIELDING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO. SO YEAH, I MEAN, WE CAN ALL LOOK OUT OVER PRETTY MUCH ANY TUCSON LANDSCAPE ON A DARK NIGHT AND SEE WHICH HIGH SCHOOLS ARE HAVING A FOOTBALL GAME.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST THESE GLOWING BALLS. SCHOOL DISTRICTS BY STATE STATUTE CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO SHIELD THEIR LIGHTS.

SO I THINK WHEN PEOPLE SEE, OH, IT'S GOING TO BE LIT FIELD, THAT'S WHAT THEY ENVISION.

RIGHT? AND TO YOUR POINT, THAT'S A NOT MODERN TECHNOLOGY.

AND B NOT THE STANDARD WE'D BE HELD TO. RIGHT.

SO SO MARANA ACTUALLY HAS SOME PRETTY GOOD DARK SKIES LIGHTING ORDINANCE IN THEIR CODE.

AND WE WILL OF COURSE COMPLY WITH ALL OF THAT.

THEY WILL BE SHIELDED AND SCREENED. I THINK THEY I'M SURE WILL BE LED OR SOMETHING MODERN AND COMPARABLE.

THAT IS VERY DIRECTIONAL. WE HAVEN'T DONE STUDIES ON THIS FIELD YET, BUT WE DID AT ONE POINT WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING A FIELD IN ORO VALLEY AND WE HAD A LIGHTING ENGINEER DO THAT. AND WE HAD NEIGHBORS CLOSER ON THAT PROPERTY AND IT WAS AMAZING THE MODELING THAT THEY DID, IT'S LIKE THEY COULD CUT IT OFF FIVE FEET FROM THE FIELD AND SHOW THAT THERE WAS LIKE 0.1 LUMEN GOING OVER THE FENCE.

RIGHT. WHICH MORE THAN MET THE REQUIREMENT. AND THEN YOU PUT CUSTOM SCREENING ON THE LIGHT FIXTURES AND THAT REDUCES ANY KIND OF GLARE.

SO, SO ABSOLUTELY. THE TECHNOLOGY TODAY IS AMAZING AND THEY CAN REALLY MAKE THE LIGHT ONLY GO WHERE THEY WANT IT TO.

BUT THAT SAID, OF COURSE WE WILL BE MEETING OR EXCEEDING ALL OF THE TOWN'S REQUIREMENTS AND WORKING WITH TOWN STAFF VERY CLOSELY ON THAT.

LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DESERT FALCON. FROM THE TWIN PEAKS RIGHT OF WAY GOING WESTWARD, HOW FAR IS THAT PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, IF AT ALL? IS IT PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO YOUR WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE? NO IT'S NOT. I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE BEST MAP.

I APOLOGIZE, IT'S NOT VERY BIG, BUT IF YOU LOOK ON THAT NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S ACTUALLY A JOG IN IT.

WELL THE, EASTERN PART THAT HAS THE JOG IN IT, THAT IS A LITTLE SOUTH OF THE WESTERN PART THAT'S ALREADY PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

THE PART WHERE IT KIND OF BUMPS UP A LITTLE BIT THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THIS PROPERTY.

AND SO THERE'S ACCESS RIGHTS, OF COURSE, GRANTED ACROSS THAT.

OKAY. SO, SO THERE'S A PERPETUAL ACCESS EASEMENT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO THE WEST.

IT IS TODAY. AND OUR PLAN IS TO DEDICATE IT AS PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND. I THINK I'M PRETTY GOOD FOR NOW.

I KNOW THE RESIDENTS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING, BUT HOPEFULLY YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH PARKING ON SITE THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE.

YEAH, WE TEND TO FIGURE OUT THE MOST WE NEED AND THEN ADD A LITTLE BIT.

AND PARKING, I THINK THE NEIGHBOR WHO SPOKE MENTIONED THE ORO VALLEY CAMPUS.

THAT CAMPUS HAS GROWN QUITE A BIT AND THE CHURCH IS ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING MORE PARKING.

THEY'RE KEENLY AWARE OF HOW PARKING DYNAMICS WORK.

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SO YOU'RE NOT COMPETING WITH A LOT OF OTHER TRAFFIC AT THAT POINT ANYWAY.

YEAH. AND MY COMPLIMENTS TO YOUR SITE PLANNING BY PUTTING ALL THE ACTIVITY TO AS FAR EAST AS YOU COULD, ESPECIALLY FOR THE PLAYING FIELDS. SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF SEAVER FRANKS ARCHITECTS.

I CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR THAT. OKAY, OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE JUST ONE. AT YOUR ORO VALLEY LOCATION DO YOU HAVE A SPORTS MINISTRY THERE NOW? YES, MA'AM. IT'S THAT'S WHERE IT'S BASED. OKAY.

AND LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF THE FACILITIES THAT THEY USE OVER THERE ARE RENTED.

THAT SPORTS MINISTRY CURRENTLY SERVES SOME KIDS FROM MARANA A GROWING NUMBER, BUT THIS, PLANTING A FLAG HERE WILL ALLOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THEM TO KIND OF CONTROL THEIR OWN DESTINY IN TERMS OF THOSE FIELDS.

SO DID THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? YEAH. AM I RIGHT THAT THE LOCATION IN ORO VALLEY IS CONSTRICTED BY WHERE THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS LOCATED? I MEAN, YOU HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS ALL AROUND YOU, AND I KNOW THAT, BUT THIS WILL ALLOW FOR FIELDS TO BE USED.

DO YOU FORESEE THIS CAMPUS BEING EXPONENTIALLY, SAY, 3 OR 4 TIMES LARGER THAN YOUR EXISTING ONE? NOW, IS THAT A GOOD ASSESSMENT? I SEE. NO, IT'S ACTUALLY I THINK THAT ONE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY VERY SIMILAR IN SIZE. OKAY. YEAH, THEY'RE BOTH LIKE BASICALLY 310 ACRE SQUARES, GIVE OR TAKE.

OKAY. AND, BUT IT IS ALL ONE SPORTS MINISTRY.

IT'S NOT LIKE THIS WILL HAVE ONE AND THEY'LL HAVE ONE OVER THERE. IT'S ALL ONE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT'S THE.

WHY DO YOU NEED 40FT? SURE. SO VOLLEYBALL OF THE OF THE INDOOR SPORTS ASSUMING YOU'RE NOT BUILDING LIKE AN INDOOR BASEBALL STADIUM OR SOMETHING, VOLLEYBALL HAS THE HIGHEST NEED IN TERMS OF CEILING HEIGHT.

AND SO WHAT YOU GET IS WHATEVER THAT HEIGHT IS AND OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS.

THE ARCHITECTS AND SPORTS DESIGNERS AT THE ARCHITECT HAVE SAID, ALL RIGHT, THIS IS THE MINIMUM CEILING HEIGHT.

WE NEED TO PLAY VOLLEYBALL. OTHERWISE YOU'RE HITTING IT AND YOU'RE HITTING THE RAFTERS. AND IT'S JUST IT'S NOT FUN ANYMORE.

AND THEN ABOVE THAT, YOU'VE GOT YOUR NORMAL CEILING AND ROOF STRUCTURE.

AND THAT'S HOW YOU DETERMINE THE HEIGHT YOU NEED. SO THERE'S NO EXTRA HEIGHT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

IT'S JUST BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE PLAYING A NORMAL GAME OF VOLLEYBALL, THE BALLS GO THAT HIGH.

AND AGAIN, WE'VE PUSHED THAT OVER TOWARDS THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE.

THE EAST SIDE, I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RENT IT OUT TO ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. THAT'S. SO THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THE CHURCH'S SPORTS MINISTRY NEEDS THIS TODAY.

AND THEY WILL HAVE PROGRAMING THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.

ONE QUESTION THE LIGHTING ACTUALLY THAT JUST CAME UP EARLIER, THE, FIELDS WILL NOT BE LIT IF THEY'RE NOT BEING USED OF COURSE.

SO IT WOULD ONLY BE ON EVENINGS WHERE, THE FIELDS ARE BEING USED, THEY'D BE LIT.

BUT YEAH, NO, THAT'S THE PLAN IS THAT THESE ARE CHURCH ACTIVITIES.

THESE ARE CHURCH MINISTRIES. THEY MAY HAVE MINISTRY PARTNERS.

BUT IT'LL ALL BE UNDER THE DIRECTION AND CONTROL OF THE CHURCH AS PART OF THEIR SPORTS MINISTRY.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? CAN I TRY? SURE. YEAH. CHRIS IS GOING TO TRY TO GIVE YOU A BETTER ANSWER.

I WOULD SAY THAT OUR PLAN IS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO, AND THAT IS THAT ANY TIME WE USE A FACILITY, IT'S AN EXTENSION OF A MINISTRY INITIATIVE WE HAVE AT THE CHURCH.

SO THERE IS NO PLAN AT ALL. THERE'S NO PROFORMA FLOATING AROUND ANYWHERE IN OUR CALCULATIONS THAT WOULD SAY, WELL, IF WE RENT THE FIELDS OUT TO FC TUCSON OR TO THE SOUTHERN ARIZONA THUNDER THEN WE CAN GENERATE THIS AMOUNT OF INCOME FOR THE CHURCH THAT WOULD NOT BE AN EXTENSION OF OUR MINISTRY OBJECTIVES OR INITIATIVES.

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THESE ARE FOR OUR MINISTRIES. AND I THINK A GOOD WAY THAT PAUL PUT IT IS, IS PARTNERS OF OUR MINISTRY THAT WE SEE WOULD HELP US FURTHER OUR OBJECTIVE IN BUILDING THE KINGDOM, BUT NOT AS A REVENUE GENERATOR OR AS SOME KIND OF SPORTS COMPLEX, WHICH IS OFTEN THE TERM THAT GETS FLOATED AROUND. THAT'S NOT THE PLAN HERE. THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF, OF OUR MINISTRY EFFORTS.

WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU PARTICIPATE AS THE AVERAGE USAGE PER DAY OR, YOU KNOW, IS THERE GOING TO BE DOWNTIME OR, YOU KNOW. YEAH. SO I THINK ONE OF OUR PRINCIPLES AT OVCN IS THAT WE THINK A CHURCH SHOULD BE BUSY.

OBVIOUSLY THE MAJOR GATHERING TIMES FOR A CHURCH ARE WORSHIP TIMES, WHICH ARE SUNDAY MORNINGS AND WEDNESDAY EVENINGS.

THOSE ARE TRADITIONAL GATHERING WORSHIP TIMES.

BUT THE CHURCH, OUR CHURCH IS DOING MINISTRY, EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT A CHURCH SHOULD DO.

SO THE SIMPLE ANSWER TO THAT IS WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO PROGRAM THIS AT A LEVEL THAT THE PUBLIC, FAMILIES AND KIDS IN THE TOWN OF MARANA WANT TO UTILIZE OUR SPORTS MINISTRY OPPORTUNITIES.

IS THAT GOING TO BE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK? PROBABLY NOT, BUT WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE FIND OUT WHAT TYPE OF RESPONSE WE GET AND HOW MUCH YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO BE A PART OF FAITH BASED SPORTS IN THIS AREA.

AND WE WANT EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT FOR EVERY KID AND EVERY FAMILY THAT WANTS TO BE A PART OF THAT.

THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. ON DESERT FALCON WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS WITH IMPROVING THE ROAD FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ADJOIN IT ON THE NORTH SIDE? SURE. SO. RIGHT NOW IT'S THE IMPROVEMENTS DO NOT MEET THE TOWN OF MARANA ROADWAY DESIGN CROSS SECTIONS. SO WE'LL BE IMPROVING IT TO MARANA STANDARDS ACROSS OUR FRONTAGE.

SO IT WILL. AND THAT WILL BE USABLE BY THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND US.

SO IT'LL BE A TOWN OF MARANA STANDARD ROAD WHEN WE'RE DONE UP TO OUR PROPERTY LINE.

AND I WOULD ALSO, IF I COULD JUST TACK ON TO THE LAST ANSWER THE SPORTS MINISTRY'S THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THOSE ALSO FALL INTO THE LARGE BUCKET OF THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY ALLOWED BY THE CURRENT ZONING.

SO THOSE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A RABBIT HOLE JUST BECAUSE THOSE AREN'T REALLY ON THE TABLE AS PART OF THE REZONING. RIGHT. BUT IT'S YOU TURN AROUND, YOU HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SO. FOR SURE, YEAH, THEY'RE GREAT QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER PARSONS. THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS I THINK THIS IS GREAT.

I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR THE KIDS. I THINK IT'S GOING TO GROW. THE POPULATION'S GROWING OUT HERE.

SO MY QUESTION IS, IS WAS HER CONCERN IS THERE WILL BE A TIME, I DO BELIEVE WHEN TRAFFIC AND PARKING COULD BE AN ISSUE.

I DO BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO TAKE OFF. I THINK IT'S GREAT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY THERE.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A CONCERN. I'D LIKE TO KNOW YOU'D HAVE MY VOTE IF YOU COULD SOMEHOW ENSURE THAT THE PARKING WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.

SURE. WELL LIKE I SAID, THE, CHURCH IS, IS VERY KEEN ON, THE PARKING NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE.

AND WE'VE OVERESTIMATED THIS AND SPREAD THE PARKING OUT SO THAT IT SERVES ALL PIECES OF THE SITE.

THAT SAID, I THINK NO PARKING SIGNS ALONG DESERT FALCON WOULD CERTAINLY BE REASONABLE.

I THINK IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WERE TO CHIME IN, THEY'D PROBABLY SAY THAT THOSE CAN ONLY BE PUT THERE IF THERE'S A DEMONSTRATED NEED. SO I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SORT OF A LET'S SEE IF IT'S A PROBLEM AND THEN PUT THEM IN.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE, TALKED WITH THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT ALSO PUTTING UP SIGNS AT THE END OF WHAT WILL BE THE PAVED ROAD WHEN IT TRANSITIONS TO DIRT SAYING, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE ROAD, NO TRESPASSING OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO MAKE IT PLAINLY CLEAR THAT THIS IS THE END.

YOU KNOW, NO, NOT A THROUGH STREET, ALL THOSE THINGS TO REALLY TRY TO DISCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM GOING BACK THERE? I DON'T KNOW.

TRYING TO FIND A WAY SOMEWHERE. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A WAY OUT TO ANYWHERE.

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SO I WOULD SAY THAT YOU KNOW, IF WE BUILD THIS AND THERE IS SOME KIND OF PROBLEM WITH CHURCH ATTENDEES GOING BACK INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN MASS AND CAUSING A PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE OPEN TO DISCUSSING, YOU KNOW, A GATE OR SOMETHING TO TRY TO. CHRIS IS GOING TO GIVE A BETTER ANSWER.

NOT BETTER. IT'S JUST BECAUSE THIS HAS COME UP BEFORE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD SAY CURRENTLY IN ORO VALLEY, WE HAVE PARKING ISSUES BECAUSE OUR CHURCH HAS GROWN TO A POINT THAT WE CAN SEAT MORE PEOPLE THAN PARKING IS ALLOWED. PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF PARKING DESIGNATION AND ZONING.

THE TOWN OF ORO VALLEY. THEY GIVE US A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF SPOTS WERE ALLOWED TO HAVE NO MORE.

WE ALSO HAVE A REALLY GOOD OUTLET OF OVERFLOW PARKING BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO [INAUDIBLE] HIGH SCHOOL.

SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN THOSE SITUATIONS TO KIND OF FIND A WAY TO ALLEVIATE PARKING CONCERNS.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD POINT OUT HERE IS THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE A SITUATION WHERE WE WOULD HAVE DUAL USE GOING ON.

WE WOULD NEVER, BECAUSE OF OUR MINISTRY OBJECTIVES, HAVE A FULL SCALE SPORTING EVENT HAPPENING ON THIS FIELD WHILE WE HAVE WORSHIP SERVICES GOING ON IN THE SANCTUARY. SO I THINK A BETTER WAY TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE PARKING ISSUE WOULD BE IT'S AN EITHER OR, RIGHT? THERE'S EITHER WORSHIP SERVICES GOING ON THAT MIGHT FILL THE SANCTUARY OR A KIDS AREA AND THE PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, OR THERE IS SPORTS MINISTRY ACTIVITY HAPPENING AROUND THE FIELD AREA, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE CONDUCIVE TO OUR MINISTRY OBJECTIVES TO DO BOTH OF THOSE.

SO IN ORO VALLEY, YOU HAVE MORE SEATING THAN YOU HAVE PARKING.

AND THIS ONE'S OPPOSITE IS. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY.

YEAH. THIS ONE HAS MORE PARKING. FOR THE USES HERE, ORO VALLEY SAYS YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN THIS AND YOU CAN'T.

THEY HAVE, LIKE A EXACT NUMBER. HERE MARANA VERY THOUGHTFULLY IN THE CODE BASICALLY SAYS, TELL US WHAT YOU THINK WILL ACTUALLY SERVE THE SITE FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE.

YEAH. I THINK I MEAN, SIGNS PEOPLE PARK RIGHT IN FRONT OF NO PARKING SIGNS.

SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SIGNS. I GUESS THEY HELP, BUT IF YOU'RE SURE THERE'S ENOUGH PARKING, THAT'D BE MY ONLY CONCERN. I THINK IT'S GREAT.

I THINK KIDS NEED IT, BUT I DO THINK IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO GROW.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO I THINK THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE.

YEAH. AND WE'RE CONFIDENT IN THE PARKING THAT'S ON HERE.

BUT AGAIN, THE CHURCH, YOU KNOW, IS GOING TO BE HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

AND THEY WANT TO BE A GREAT NEIGHBOR FOR A LONG TIME. AND SO IF A PROBLEM MATERIALIZES, SOMEBODY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE BETTER BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME.

WELL, THE CHURCH HAS A TON OF SKIN IN THE GAME AND THEY YOU GET ONE GOOD NEIGHBOR ON ALL THE ACREAGE THAT YOU CAN COME TO WITH ANY ISSUES, AND THEY ARE COMMITTED TO SOLVING ANYTHING THAT COMES UP.

YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT. THANK YOU GUYS. OKAY, IT'S MY TURN.

MOST OF THE ISSUES I HAD CONCERNS WITH GOT COVERED.

DO WE DID WE DO A TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THIS? CHAIRMAN A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY WOULD BE DONE BEFORE ANY DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY. OKAY.

I BELIEVE AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS SOME TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT WAS COMPLETED AS PART OF THIS AS WELL.

OKAY. YOU KNEW, I WOULD ASK THAT. A TRAFFIC STUDY HAS BEEN PREPARED. IT'S STILL IN PROGRESS.

SO THERE'S BEEN ONE SUBMITTAL. THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS SUBMITTED.

AND NORMALLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THAT THOSE COMMENTS WOULD BE ADDRESSED.

AND THEN EVENTUALLY WE WOULD WORK OUR WAY TOWARDS APPROVAL.

WHAT I WASN'T THE REVIEWER ON THIS ONE. WHAT I BELIEVE HAS OCCURRED IS THAT THERE IS A ALSO ONGOING, WHAT WE CALL A DESIGN EXCEPTION. AND WE'RE WAITING OR THE APPLICANT IS WAITING TO SEE HOW THAT DESIGN EXCEPTION PROGRESSES BEFORE THEY MAKE THEIR NEXT SUBMITTAL ON THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

OKAY. SO THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT TO GO IN AT THIS INTERSECTION.

NO SIR. NO. THAT'S NOT BEING DISCUSSED. OKAY.

MR. CHAIRMAN, AS LONG AS WE'VE GOT OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER PRESENT.

YES. IS IT ANTICIPATED THAT IT WOULD BE REQUIRED A DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE FOR THE ENTRANCE INTO THE CHURCH PROPERTY ON TWIN PEAKS? I HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT TWO.

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BUT LET'S TAKE A QUICK LOOK HERE. ONE THING THAT THEY ASKED FOR AND PERHAPS YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.

DO YOU REMEMBER WHETHER THE RIGHT TURN LANE IS WARRANTED.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS, BUT I'LL TALK ABOUT THE DESIGN EXCEPTION AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT.

OKAY. OKAY, GREAT. THE DESIGN EXCEPTION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD DURING ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS LOUD AND CLEAR WAS IMPACTS TO DESERT FALCON TRAFFIC IMPACTS TO DESERT FALCON. OF COURSE. RIGHT. AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE, WE REALLY SHIFTED THE FOCUS OF THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO TWIN PEAKS ROAD AND TO MAKE THAT FULLY FUNCTIONAL. THERE'S RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THIS MAP, BUT THERE'S A MEDIAN BREAK AT DESERT FALCON, WHICH ALLOWS FULL ACCESS LEFT AND RIGHT.

AND THEN THERE'S A MEDIAN BREAK, ODDLY ENOUGH, RIGHT AT OUR SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE, WHICH REALLY DOES US NO GOOD.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TOWN ENGINEERING TO PROCESS A DESIGN EXCEPTION FOR A NEW MEDIAN BREAK RIGHT AT OUR MAIN ENTRANCE, WHICH IS RIGHT ABOUT WHERE THE WORD PEAKS IS IN TWIN PEAKS ON THIS MAP.

AND WE'VE GOTTEN, WE'VE DONE SOME ANALYSIS THERE AND PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING, AND WE'VE GOTTEN POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM TOWN STAFF SO FAR.

SO I EXPECT THAT WILL BE APPROVED, WHICH WILL ALLOW FULL ACCESS AT THE TWIN PEAKS ROAD MAIN ENTRANCE, WHICH WILL FURTHER MINIMIZE TRAFFIC ON DESERT FALCON.

OKAY. NOBODY TALKED ABOUT THE MAILBOXES. WHERE WILL THE MAILBOXES GO? I DID FIND THAT THE RIGHT TURN LANE SOUTHBOUND ON TWIN PEAKS ROAD AT THIS PROPOSED NEW DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE IS WARRANTED.

IS WARRANTED. OKAY. I DID MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE DESIGN EXCEPTION TO CONSIDER LEFT IN AND RIGHT OUT IN THE INTEREST OF HOW DIFFICULT IT CAN BE FOR PEOPLE TO EXIT ONTO A 45 MILE PER HOUR ROAD.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF KIDS HERE. SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY RECOMMENDATIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.

SO IF THE DESIGN EXCEPTION, IF THE DESIGN EXCEPTION GOES THROUGH AND YOU GET THE MEDIAN CUT AT PEAKS WHERE IT IS NOW THAT WILL EXCUSE ME, ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE A LOT OF U-TURNS FOR THE NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC OR LEFT TURNS INTO DESERT FALCON.

SO OKAY. SO THAT WILL DECREASE THE TRAFFIC IF THE MEDIAN CUT IS GRANTED.

AT THE DESERT FALCON. YEAH. AND I REALIZE THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE SITE PLAN ISSUES THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING TO DO WITH ZONING. BUT SINCE THE PUBLIC IS HERE, LET'S GET AS MUCH OUT THERE AS WE CAN SO THAT THEY GO HOME WITH AS MUCH INFORMATION AS THEY CAN. MAILBOXES. OKAY. WHERE WILL THE MAILBOXES BE RELOCATED TO? ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD? TBD, BUT CERTAINLY SOMEWHERE THAT'S OKAY WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND THE TOWN.

MY THOUGHT WAS IF THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REMAIN IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOOK AT PROBABLY JUST PUTTING AN EASEMENT ALONG OUR NORTHERN EDGE RIGHT THERE AND PUSH THEM BACK A FEW FEET.

I DON'T KNOW, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO THOSE DETAILS. OKAY.

BUT WHATEVER'S OUT THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE RELOCATED, WE'LL NEED TO DEAL WITH.

BUT THE DRAINAGE OUT THERE ALONG DESERT FALCON IS GOING TO GET SOLVED.

YES. I WENT OUT THERE A FEW DAYS AGO AND TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND.

I WAS REALLY HAPPY WITH THE DRAINAGE DITCHES BEING MAINTAINED ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PROPERTY.

SO OKAY, THAT'S ALL. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT? OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE IT DOWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND. CAN I GET A MOTION TO.

AM I ALLOWED TO OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC AGAIN? CHAIRMAN SCHNEE, IT'S AT YOUR DISCRETION IF YOU WISH TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OR YOU CAN. IT IS CLOSED AS OF RIGHT NOW. OKAY.

WE'LL PRESS ON. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN COUNCIL? SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO RECOMMEND TO THE TOWN COUNCIL PCZ2601-001.

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THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE STAFF. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER TYSON.

AYE. COMMISSIONER PARSONS. AYE. COMMISSIONER MCINTYRE.

AYE. COMMISSIONER FLINT. AYE. CHAIRMAN SCHNEE.

AYE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING OUT.

OKAY. NEXT UP IS THE MARANA AND WENTZ 74 REZONE.

ALL RIGHT. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, TONIGHT I HAVE PCZ 2603001.

THIS IS THE MARANA AND WENTZ 74 REZONE. THE APPLICANT IS PARADIGM LAND SOLUTIONS.

ALSO PAUL WHO IS HERE. THE REQUEST IT IS A SITE ANALYSIS REZONE TO R-4 RESIDENTIAL.

THE SIZE AND LOCATION. IT IS ABOUT 74 ACRES AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF MARANA AND WENTZ.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS SPLIT ZONING LEGACY. SO IT'S LEGACY ZONE A WHICH IS SMALL LOT, AND LEGACY ZONE B, WHICH IS MEDIUM LOT. THE 2040 GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AS TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL EXISTING CONDITIONS. SO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE PART OF THE MAKE MARANA 2040 PLANNING AREA.

ALL SURROUNDING PROPERTIES HAVE A TN TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGNATION EXCEPT TO THE EAST, WHICH IS MASTER PLANNED AREA. THE ZONING. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A SPLIT ZONING AS SAID BEFORE.

SO TO THE SOUTH IS ZONE C LARGE LOT AND SPECIFIC PLAN ANWAYS FARMS WITH A LAND USE OF COMMERCIAL.

TO THE EAST WE HAVE ZONE C LARGE LOT AND SPECIFIC PLAN RANCH HOUSE WITH THE LAND USE OF RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH.

IT MIRRORS THAT SPLIT ZONING DESIGNATION. SO THE C AND THE B THEN TO THE WEST IS ZONE B MEDIUM LOT PROPOSED ZONING. AS STATED, IT IS A SITE ANALYSIS.

REZONING THIS PROPOSAL WOULD ALLOW THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH MARANA TOWN CODES R4 ZONING DESIGNATION.

AS A RESULT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, A CONDITION WAS ADDED TO RESTRICT MULTI STOREY HOMES ALONG EXISTING RESIDENCES TO THE EAST.

SO THAT WOULD BE IF I HAVE A GOOD MAP HERE. THAT'S THIS LINE RIGHT HERE, KIND OF THE NORTHEAST.

CORNER OF THAT. SO STAFF DID ADD THAT CONDITION INTO THE STAFF REPORT.

AND THEN WITH THAT BEING SAID, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THIS IS A DISCRETIONARY ITEM FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER.

SHOULD THE COMMISSION CHOOSE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE TOWN COUNCIL STAFF RECOMMENDS IT BE SUBJECT TO THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.

AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, AS ALWAYS, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER.

BUT PAUL ALSO HAS ANOTHER PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSION PAUL OLAND WITH PARADIGM LAND DESIGN REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER.

SO SIMILAR FORMAT HERE. I WILL NOT SPEND ANY TIME ON THINGS THAT AUSTIN ALREADY MENTIONED.

BUT THIS MAP HERE I THINK IS IS HELPFUL. THE MAP ON THE RIGHT IS KIND OF A ZOOM OUT OF THE ZONING MAP THAT THAT WAS IN STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THERE IS LABELED AS SUBJECT.

IT'S ACTUALLY BASICALLY FILLING IN THE KINDS OF USES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED THAT MARANA 154 TO OUR SOUTHEAST THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT THE ZONE ASFR COULD LOOK LIKE UNDER EXISTING ZONING.

WHEN MAKING THIS MAP, I ACTUALLY WAS SURPRISED WHEN I REMEMBERED ANWAY FARMS THERE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY THERE.

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AND THEN RANCH HOUSE, OF COURSE TO OUR EAST. HSL OWNS THE LAND TO OUR NORTH.

WE ALL KNOW HSL IS THE LARGEST APARTMENT DEVELOPER IN TUCSON.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE, BUT I EXPECT PROPOSALS WILL BE COMING FORTH ON THOSE TOO.

SO THE POINT IS WE'RE PROPOSING SOMETHING THAT IS THAT IS EXACTLY IN LINE WITH WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED ALL AROUND THERE.

AND AUSTIN MENTIONED THE ROW OF LOTS THAT'S RESTRICTED TO SINGLE STORY.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE OFFERED. AND YOU CAN SEE BARELY ON THE LITTLE PICTURE TO THE LEFT.

THERE'S A ROW OF LOTS THERE WITH S'S ON THEM JUST WEST OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

BECAUSE THE PRIMARY VIEWS ARE TO THE WEST. AND THERE'S ALSO VIEWS IN OTHER DIRECTIONS, BUT NOT REALLY TO THE SOUTH.

SO THE NEIGHBOR WHO I SPOKE WITH WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IMPACTS TO SUNSET VIEWS.

SO I SAID, WELL, WE CAN JUST RESTRICT THAT ENTIRE EDGE TO SINGLE STORY.

SO WE DID THAT. WE WILL BE PROVIDING ALL ROADWAY WATER, SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

THOSE HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT WITH STAFF AS WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THE REZONING REQUIREMENTS.

FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL COMPATIBILITY STANDPOINT WE OF COURSE, WILL BE DOING THE BURROWING OWL SURVEY PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION.

I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO WITH THIS PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN FARMED FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. SO I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. OKAY.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE? THIS ONE.

WHAT IS THE TEARDROP B? OH YES SIR, THAT'S SCHEMATIC BASIN LOCATIONS.

OKAY. GOT IT. DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE, BUT WE'LL NEED TO HAVE THEM.

RETENTION DETENTION BASINS. OKAY. AND HOW WIDE IS THAT BETWEEN THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS AND THE SINGLE STORY HOMES? I THINK IT VARIES BETWEEN 20 AND 40FT ALONG THAT EDGE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. IT'S DESIGNED AROUND MARANA BUFFER YARDS.

YEAH, YEAH. AND PAUL, I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON THE WHERE IT SAYS SUBJECT ON THE THE PORTION TO THE RIGHT UNDER THE S IS THAT AN ACCESS FROM THE ROADWAY OR IS THAT JUST A HAMMERHEAD? NO, IT'S AN ACCESS. OKAY, SO YOU'VE GOT THREE ACCESS POINTS, THEN.

YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEP. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS IT FITTING INTO THE AREA, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALREADY ESTABLISHED OUT THERE.

IT'S KIND OF THE LOWER DENSITY KIND OF RANCHETTES.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S EXISTING.

AND A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE ARE VERY AGAINST LIKE THEY SAY THE NEIGHBOR DOESN'T WANT NO ONE IN THEIR BACKYARD.

BUT SOMETIMES IT'S THE OPPOSITE. SOMETIMES THESE PEOPLE MOVE IN TO THESE WESTERN AREAS AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO, AND IT BECOMES AN ISSUE. AND I SEE IT WITH FRIENDS IN GILBERT AND SANTANA AND QUEEN CREEK.

I THINK ALL IT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED BEFORE YOU STARTSTICKING THIS HIGH DENSITY IN, YOU KNOW LIVESTOCK KIND OF AGRICULTURE AREAS. SO IS THERE ANY HOW WOULD YOU HANDLE ANYTHING LIKE THAT? SURE. WELL, I GUESS I WOULD, I, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT WITH THIS MAP ON THE RIGHT.

AND THAT IS THAT NOT NECESSARILY HIGH DENSITY EXCEPT FOR AT ANWAY FARMS WHERE THAT LITTLE BROWN RECTANGLE IS APPROVED FOR APARTMENTS ALREADY.

BUT ALL THE REST OF THEM THE ZONE A STUFF MARANA 154 RANCH HOUSE UPTOWN, ALL THOSE OTHER ONES, THOSE ARE ALREADY APPROVED. THEY'RE NOT BUILT YET, BUT THEY'RE APPROVED FOR THIS KIND OF DENSITY OR MORE ALREADY.

AND THAT'S IN LINE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, WHICH, AS AUSTIN SAID, RANGES FROM 2 TO 18 HOMES PER ACRE AS THE TARGET.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL AND THE VOTERS HAVE SAID SHOULD BE THE BROAD BRUSH YOU KNOW, COLOR THAT WE PAINT THIS PART OF MARANA. AND SO THIS PIECE HERE IS ON THE LOWER END OF THAT SPECTRUM FOR SURE.

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AND LIKE I SAID, IN THE BOTTOM QUARTER OF THE GENERAL PLANS DESIGNATION.

OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE FIRST UP, MARK PATTON, FOLLOWED BY MIKE HANCOCK. OKAY.

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THIS. MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN MARANA NOW SINCE 2005.

WE JUST BUILT A HOUSE THAT IS WITHIN EYESIGHT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S THE LARGE HOUSE NEXT TO SHERI [INAUDIBLE] PLACE.

WE INVESTED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BE ABLE TO LIVE THE RURAL LIFESTYLE.

AND I THINK ONE THING THAT AS I LOOK AT THIS MAP, IT CONVENIENTLY EXCLUDES EVERYTHING WEST OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.

AND, THAT'S A REAL CONCERN TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE APPROVING THINGS.

COMMISSIONER PARSONS TALKED ABOUT THE RANCHETTES.

YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT THAT'S GOT TO STOP, RIGHT? WE CAN'T CONTINUE BUILDING SMALL LOT SUBDIVISIONS ALL THE WAY OUT THERE AND MAINTAIN WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT MARANA.

IT'S SIMPLY GOING TO BECOME TUCSON, WHICH IS NOT WHAT WE WANT.

I HOPE THAT THAT AS YOU CONSIDER WHAT'S BEING DEVELOPED HERE OR PROPOSED THE ONLY MATERIAL I'VE SEEN ON THIS.

I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON, SO I'M A LITTLE LATE TO THE PARTY, WHICH IS MY ISSUE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THE INFORMATION THAT I SAW SAID THAT THE THE OWNER INTENDS TO DO ONE THING.

AND YET THEY'RE SEEKING DENSER ZONING THAN WHAT THEY CURRENTLY INTEND TO USE.

I'D BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE FUTURE.

I WAS, I WAS INVOLVED IN THE TRANSACTION WITH ALL THE LAND THAT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MARANA ROAD 15 YEARS AGO, BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. AND IT'S NOW BEING PUT TO A VERY DIFFERENT USE.

I ONLY SAY THAT IN THE SENSE THAT ALTHOUGH THIS DEVELOPER MAY HAVE PLANS FOR ONE THING, IF WE'RE GOING TO ENTITLE IT FOR SOMETHING THAT'S MORE BROAD OR DENSER USE, THEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MAY END UP BEING IN THE FUTURE. I THINK JUST MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO REALLY MAINTAIN THE RURAL NATURE OF MARANA, AT SOME POINT, WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

AND IF IT JUST KEEPS CREEPING FURTHER AND FURTHER AND FURTHER, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THAT.

SO I HOPE THAT YOU'LL CONSIDER THAT AS YOU CONSIDER THIS THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. OKAY, I APPRECIATE IT.

[APPLAUSE] CURRENT SPEAKER IS MIKE HANCOCK, FOLLOWED BY AMY ALLRED. GOOD EVENING AND THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE.

I APPRECIATE WHAT MARK PATTON SAID. HE'S A FRIEND OF MINE.

WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND WE ENCOURAGED MARK AND MANY OTHERS LIKE HIM TO COME TO THIS EXACT COMMUNITY FOR THIS VERY REASON.

THIS IS WHAT WE LOVE. THIS IS WHAT WE GREW UP WITH.

THIS IS WHAT WE'VE STRIVED FOR, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN PROMISED WE WERE GETTING WHEN WE MOVED TO THIS COMMUNITY.

MY WIFE AND I WROTE THIS DOWN TO KEEP ME. WE'RE BOTH VERY PASSIONATE AND WE BOTH FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS.

SO I WROTE IT DOWN TO TO KEEP MYSELF FOCUSED SO I DON'T SOUND ERRATIC AND OUT OF CONTROL HERE, BUT I WANT YOU TO HEAR WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. DEAR MEMBERS OF THE MARANA PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK REGARDING THE LAND DESIGN PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO OUR PROPERTY.

RESPECTFULLY, AS ASKED THE COMMISSION TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER WHETHER THIS PROJECT REFLECTS THE VALUES, CHARACTER AND HERITAGE THAT HAVE MADE MARANA SUCH A SPECIAL PLACE FOR GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES.

MARANA IDENTIFIES WITH BUILT. MARANA IDENTITY WAS BUILT BY OUR FARMERS, RANCHERS, AND WORKING FAMILIES WHO HAVE CARED FOR THE LAND AND KEPT THE TRADITIONS OF OLD

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OUR VISION IS FOR A COMMUNITY THAT EMBRACES MARANA'S WESTERN RANCH STYLE HERITAGE, A PLACE WHERE FAMILIES CAN RAISE LIVESTOCK, ENJOY OPEN SPACE, CONTINUE THE TRADITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MARANA FOR GENERATIONS.

WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT RESPONSIBLE GROWTH REQUIRES HOMES TO BE BUILT CLOSELY TOGETHER.

RATHER, WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE A LOW DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.

THIS WOULD PRESERVE THE OPEN, SPACIOUS CHARACTER THAT HAS LONG DEFINED THIS AREA OF MARANA AND CONTRIBUTES MUCH TO THE UNIQUE IDENTITY.

WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING REQUESTS.

LOW DENSITY, RANCH STYLE DEVELOPMENTS. I SEE ON THIS PLAN THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RANCH STYLE DEVELOPMENTS.

I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD THAT RANCH STYLE DEVELOPMENTS ARE COUPLE ACRE LOTS.

IN FACT, BEFORE I GO MUCH FARTHER, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT THAT WERE NOT AWARE OF THIS MEETING.

THIS MEETING WAS NOT MADE. I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS MEETING UNTIL THIS MORNING.

I'M THE ONE THAT LIVES, THAT IS COMPLETELY SURROUNDED.

I'M THE HOUSE THAT'S COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY ALL OF THIS.

I'M THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE IMPACTED THE MOST.

I SPOKE TO CLAY PARSONS BEFORE I CAME HERE. HE WOULD LIKE TO BE HERE.

BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, TODAY IS HIS DAY HE CAN'T LEAVE THE AUCTION YARD.

BUT HE WOULD WOULD LOVE TO COME AND SPEAK HIS MIND AS WELL AS A FEW OTHERS.

NOW LET ME GO ON. LOW DENSITY WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT OF NO MORE THAN ONE HOME PER TWO ACRES.

LARGE LOTS WOULD PROVIDE MORE APPROPRIATE TRANSITION BETWEEN THE EXISTING RURAL PROPERTIES AND NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THEY WOULD ALSO HELP PRESERVE OPEN SPACE VIEWS, PRIVACY AND THE WESTERN RANCH CHARACTER THAT MAKES THIS AREA DISTINCTIVE.

WE HOPE THE DEVELOPMENT CAN BE DESIGNED TO A TRUE RANCH STYLE COMMUNITY RATHER THAN A TIGHTLY PACKED SUBDIVISION.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HONORS THE TRADITION OF OLD MARANA, AND GIVES FUTURE GENERATIONS THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE THE OPEN, SPACIOUS LIFESTYLES THAT HAVE BEEN DEFINED FOR SO LONG.

OUR NUMBER TWO TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND INTERSECTION SAFETY.

WE'RE ALSO DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, THE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS IN THIS AREA.

THE ROADS SURROUNDING OUR PROPERTIES ARE ALREADY USED BY TRACTORS, CATTLE TRUCKS, SEMIS, HAULING HAY IN ADDITION TO THE EVERYDAY TRAFFIC GENERATED BY EXISTING RESIDENTS. THESE ARE WORKING AGRICULTURE ROADS, NOT SIMPLY RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

WE ARE PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF PROXIMITY, 400 ADDITIONAL VEHICLES COMING AND GOING FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT.

HOW ARE THE EXISTING ROADS AND INTERSECTIONS ESPECIALLY EXPECTED TO SAFELY ACCOMMODATE THAT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WHEN THERE ARE ALREADY SO MANY ACCIDENTS AT OUR INTERSECTION? WEEKLY ACCIDENTS AT THIS INTERSECTION. BEFORE APPROVING ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COMMISSIONER TO CAREFULLY EVALUATE THE CAPACITY AND SAFETY OF EXISTING ROADS AND INTERSECTIONS, INCLUDING THE IMPACT OF AGRICULTURAL EQUIPMENT, LIVESTOCK TRAILERS, COMMERCIAL TRUCKS AND LARGE VEHICLES THAT ALREADY USE THESE ROADS.

THE SAFETY OF EXISTING RESIDENTS AND EVERYONE WHO TRAVELS THROUGH THIS AREA SHOULD BE A PRIMARY CONSIDERATION.

SUBSTANTIAL AND PERMANENT MAINTAINED PERIMETER LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

WE REQUEST THE PERIMETER OF THE DEVELOPMENT BORDERING OUR PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTIES OF THE HOMEOWNER NEIGHBORING HOMEOWNERS INCLUDE SUBSTANTIAL LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

THIS BUFFER SHOULD PROVIDE MEANINGFUL PRIVACY, PRESERVE THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF THE AREA, AND CREATE THOUGHTFUL TRANSITION BETWEEN EXISTING HOMES AND THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. IT SHOULD REFLECT THE QUALITY AND CHARACTER THAT WE BELIEVE IS MARANA.

WE ALSO RESPECTFULLY ASK THE DEVELOPER BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ENSURING THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER IS PERMANENTLY MAINTAINED IN A HEALTHY AND ATTRACTIVE, ESTHETICALLY PLEASING CONDITION. WE HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE MAINTENANCE AND APPEARANCE OF DEVELOPMENTS JUST ACROSS THE STREET.

TED AND SANDY DESPAIN'S HOME NEAR BARNETT, BARNETT VILLAGE.

THEY PUT ALL THIS FANCY LANDSCAPING IT'S DEAD.

I CAN GIVE YOU ONE MORE MINUTE. OKAY. OKAY. YOU GIVE THE BUILDERS LOTS OF MINUTES, SO I'LL HURRY.

FINALLY, WE RESPECT REQUEST THAT ALL HOMES CONSTRUCT ALONG THE PERIMETER ADJACENT TO OUR PROPERTIES.

AND THOSE OF NEIGHBORING HOMEOWNERS BE LIMITED TO SINGLE STORY CONSTRUCTION.

THIS WOULD HELP PROTECT OUR PRIVACY, VIEWS AND THE RURAL CHARACTER EXISTING.

SOME OTHER CONCERNS. SO A BIG CONCERN WE'RE TRYING TO PROVE R4.

WHEN I READ IN R4, THAT ALLOWS FOR APARTMENTS TO BE BUILT.

SO SAY THIS BUILDER DOESN'T GO THROUGH. BUT YOU APPROVE THIS ZONING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY BACK OUT.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, NOW THE NEXT GUY CAN COME IN AND PUT APARTMENTS IN.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

I MEAN, WE JUST I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW DISCERNING THAT IS.

OUR PROPERTY ALREADY EXISTS WITH SPECIFIC ENGINEERING MEASURES.

ARE THOSE MEASURES BEING PUT IN PLACE FOR STORMWATER RUNOFF?

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HOW CAN YOU DEMONSTRATE THAT OUR HOME WILL BE PROTECTED DURING HEAVY RAINS? WHO IS RESPONSIBLE IF THE DEVELOPMENT CAUSES DRAINAGE AND PROBLEMS AFTER IT'S BUILT? ALL OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE JUST BUILT HOMES HERE, SEVERAL OF THEM ARE HERE. MARK PATTON WAS ONE OF THEM. THEY HAD TO RAISE THEIR HOUSE QUITE A BIT. SO I ASSUME THIS DEVELOPER IS GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT.

WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO TO US THAT SURROUND IT? IT IS GOING TO PUT US IN A BIG HOLE? CAN WE GET A COPY OF YOUR NOTES? YES. WE'LL GET YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT AFTERWARDS.

OKAY. [APPLAUSE] THE NEXT SPEAKER IS AMY ALLRED, FOLLOWED BY JEFF SAMUELSON.

OKAY. HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE LEFT? ONE MORE FOLLOWING JEFF.

OKAY. HI. GOOD EVENING. EXCUSE ME FOR READING THIS.

I AM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS, AND I DON'T WANT TO FORGET ANYTHING THAT I'VE HAD ON MY MIND.

SO SHE SAID, MY NAME IS AMY ALLRED, AND MY FAMILY LIVES ON WENTZ ROAD, DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY PROPOSED FOR REZONING.

MY FAMILY DIDN'T CHOOSE THIS AREA BY ACCIDENT.

WE CHOSE IT BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF THE FEW REMAINING RURAL AREAS IN MARANA.

WE ACCEPTED THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT COMES WITH LIVING IN THE COUNTRY BECAUSE WE VALUE THE OPEN SPACE, THE AGRICULTURAL LIFESTYLE, THE PEACE AND QUIET, AND THE INCREDIBLE VIEWS THAT MAKE UP THIS AREA.

AND IT MAKES IT VERY UNIQUE. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ISN'T JUST A COLLECTION OF HOUSES, IT'S A COMMUNITY OF FAMILIES WHO RAISE LIVESTOCK, CARE FOR ACREAGE, AND HAVE INTENTIONALLY INVESTED OUR LIVES IN PRESERVING THIS RURAL WAY OF LIVING.

THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU WOULD FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY, A DEVELOPMENT WITH HUNDREDS OF HOMES AT A DENSITY OF 4 TO 6 HOMES PER ACRE, IS SIMPLY NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

IT WOULD REPLACE OPEN FARMLAND WITH DENSE SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT AND PERMANENTLY ALTER THE LANDSCAPE THAT SO MANY OF US CHOOSE TO CALL HOME.

THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT LOSING OUR VIEW. IT'S ABOUT LOSING THE IDENTITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT WILL BRING INCREASED TRAFFIC TO ROADS THAT WERE NEVER DESIGNED FOR THIS VOLUME OF VEHICLES.

IT WILL INCREASE NOISE, LIGHT POLLUTION AND STRAIN ON INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT WILL CREATE CONFLICTS BETWEEN NEW HOMEOWNERS AND EXISTING AGRICULTURAL USES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS.

I ASK YOU TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER THE IMPACT THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON OUR SCHOOLS.

HUNDREDS OF NEW HOMES WILL INEVITABLY BRING MORE FAMILIES AND MORE STUDENTS, WHICH IS GREAT.

BUT BEFORE APPROVING A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE, I BELIEVE OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES TO KNOW WHETHER OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS HAVE THE CAPACITY, STAFFING, TRANSPORTATION AND RESOURCES TO ACCOMMODATE THAT GROWTH WITHOUT AFFECTING THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION FOR THE CHILDREN WHO ARE ALREADY LIVING HERE.

PEOPLE WHO PURCHASE HOMES IN NEW SUBDIVISIONS OFTEN AREN'T PREPARED FOR THE REALITIES OF LIVING NEXT TO FARMS, DUST, TRACTORS, LIVESTOCK, IRRIGATION AND THE SOUNDS AND SMELLS THAT COME WITH AGRICULTURE.

ONCE THIS LAND IS DEVELOPED, THERE IS NO GOING BACK.

OPEN SPACE, WILDLIFE HABITAT, AGRICULTURE, LAND AND THE RURAL CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY CANNOT BE RECREATED ONCE THEY ARE GONE.

GROWTH IS INEVITABLE. I KNOW THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND MARANA WILL CONTINUE TO GROW, BUT GROWTH SHOULD HAPPEN WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE AND WHERE IT RESPECTS THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. THIS PROPOSAL SIMPLY IS TOO DENSE FOR THIS LOCATION.

I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO DENY THIS REZONING REQUEST OR REQUIRE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

1 TO 2 ACRE LOTS WOULD BE IDEAL. THE EASIEST DECISION WOULD BE TO APPROVE ANOTHER SUBDIVISION.

THE HARDER DECISION IS TO PRESERVE WHAT MAKES MARANA SPECIAL.

ONCE THESE 74 ACRES ARE COVERED WITH ROOFTOPS AND STREETS, THERE'S NO UNDO BUTTON.

FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT THIS COMMUNITY LOOKED LIKE AND WHY A FAMILY LIKE OURS CHOSE TO BUILD HERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] NEXT UP WE HAVE JEFF SAMUELSON, FOLLOWED BY ADAM BINGHAM.

THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS JEFF SAMUELSON. I WASN'T QUITE PREPARED AS MY NEIGHBORS HAVE NOTES, BUT I'VE LIVED IN THIS TOWN MY WHOLE LIFE. 54 YEARS I'VE LIVED HERE.

I GREW UP IN THIS TOWN. AND LIKE MY NEIGHBORS ARE TELLING YOU, WE'RE GROWING TOO FAST, TOO MUCH.

EVERYBODY'S SEEN THE OFF RAMPS AT TANGERINE AND 236 MARANA IN RUSH HOUR.

SOMETIMES I GO UP TO THE NEXT EXIT UP, UP TO PARK LANE, NOT PARK LANES, BUT EVERGREEN BECAUSE THERE'S 80 CARS ON THE SIDE OF THE SHOULDER TRYING TO GET OFF ON THE EXIT RIGHT HERE. IT'S UNACCEPTABLE.

WE BRING ALL THESE HOUSES IN THESE APARTMENTS.

WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO TO OUR ROADS AND OUR TRAFFIC, LIKE MY NEIGHBORS HAVE MENTIONED IT.

MAKE THESE DEVELOPERS PAY FOR ALL THIS, BUT WE NEED TO DO THAT FIRST BEFORE WE START BUILDING ALL THESE HOUSES AND CONTAMINATE OUR LIVING AREA.

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I BUILT A HOUSE RIGHT OVER HERE. THE FIRST HOUSE I BUILT AT 21, 22 YEARS OLD, TO GET OUT OF THAT, IF I WANTED TO LIVE IN THAT, I WOULD LIVE IN TOWN.

I LIVE OUT HERE FOR A REASON. SUCH AS YOUR FAMILY.

WE LIVE OUT HERE FOR A REASON, AND THAT'S WHAT MY NEIGHBORS ARE EXPRESSING.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO CORROBORATE. AND YES, MY NEIGHBORS, LIKE THEY SAID, MARANA IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.

BUT WE NEED TO GROW TO WHERE WE CAN MAINTAIN OUR VIEWS, MAINTAIN THE LIVESTOCK THAT WE HAVE AT OUR HOUSES.

NOT THAT THAT'S MY SAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] OUR FINAL SPEAKER IS ADAM BINGHAM.

GOOD EVENING. I'M NOT AS PREPARED AS WELL AS UNAWARE OF THIS UNTIL A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO.

JUST A LITTLE BACK STORY. MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY RIGHT AT THE TOP CORNER OF THE HSL ABOUT JULY OF LAST YEAR.

WE'RE CURRENTLY LIVING IN A FIFTH WHEEL WHILE WE'RE BUILDING OUR DREAM HOME ON TWO AND A HALF ACRES, WITH A YEAR AND A HALF YEAR OLD KID IN THE TRAILER WITH US.

AND WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY BECAUSE WHEN WE DROVE UP TO IT THE FIRST NIGHT, MY WIFE ASKED, CAN WE STAY HERE TONIGHT? AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE FEELING THAT WE GOT WHEN WE PULLED UP TO THE FRONT OF THAT PROPERTY.

IF ALL THAT LAND AROUND US GETS TURNED INTO HOMES AND APARTMENTS OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT SAME FEELING THAT WE HAD WHEN WE DROVE UP TO THAT PROPERTY AND MADE THE DECISION TO SPEND EVERY OUNCE OF MONEY THAT WE HAD IN OUR BANK ACCOUNT TO BUILD OUR HOME, TO MAKE THIS DREAM HAPPEN FOR US AND OUR FAMILY, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T STOP PROGRESS.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THERE'S NO DENYING THAT.

BUT I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER LAND AROUND THIS TOWN AND WITHIN THE AREA THAT WON'T DIRECTLY IMPACT THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE ALREADY CREATED THIS LIFESTYLE FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES QUITE AS MUCH. SO KEEPING THIS LAND 1 TO 2 ACRES, I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO KEEP THAT FEELING A LITTLE LESS HARSH WHEN IT COMES DOWN. LIKE I SAID, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S PROGRESS IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT I THINK TO THIS LEVEL IS A LITTLE TOO HARSH FOR WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED ON THOSE STREETS AND AROUND THAT AREA.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. [APPLAUSE] I APPRECIATE IT.

ANY MORE SPEAKERS? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN.

OKAY. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THIS ANY DISCUSSION WITH REGARDS TO THE PROJECT FROM THE RIGHT. NO. NOT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. FROM SO LIKE THIS RIGHT HERE IS A KIRBY HUGHES AND LUCKETT DEAL.

IS THAT A GO. IS THAT APPROVED BECAUSE. COMMISSIONER PARSONS THAT'S ACTUALLY THAT PROJECT'S ASSIGNED TO ME.

IT'S STILL IN PROGRESS. SO THAT PROJECT IS NOT APPROVED AT THIS TIME.

OKAY. BECAUSE ON HERE IT GIVES THE ILLUSION THAT EVERYTHING AROUND IT'S ALREADY DONE.

SO WHY NOT? BUT LIKE THAT, THAT ONE'S NOT DONE YET.

YES. COMMISSIONER PARSONS THIS IS A CONTEXT MAP.

EVERYTHING THAT'S COLORED ON HERE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF KIRBY HUGHES, WHICH IS ALMOST A MILE FROM US, IS APPROVED. AND I GUESS THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE WITH THIS MAP IS THAT EVERYTHING DIRECTLY AROUND US HERE RANCH HOUSE MARANA 154 AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS, THOSE ARE ALREADY APPROVED AND ZONED FOR THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF HOMES.

SO PUTTING THAT ONE UP THERE JUST FOR CONTEXT, WHO KNOWS IF IT GETS APPROVED, BUT IT'S ALSO TN IN THE GENERAL PLAN. YEAH. IT JUST, IT'S A BAD LOOK BECAUSE IT'S ON THERE AND THE OTHER ONES.

IT MAKES ME QUESTION, WELL, IS THAT, ARE THEY ALL APPROVED OR IS IT JUST KIND OF SHOWING THAT IT'S ALREADY HERE ANYWAY? SO I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THAT UP WITH THE KIRBY HUGHES AND LOOK IT.

I'LL TAKE IT OFF WHEN WE GO TO COUNCIL. OKAY.

COMMISSIONER TYSON. YOU KNOW CHAIRMAN I'VE GOT SOME CONCERNS AND I'M JUST NOT QUITE SURE YET HOW TO VERBALIZE WHAT MY CONCERNS REALLY ARE.

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AND THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR RETAINING SOME OF THE HISTORY THAT BROUGHT US ALL HERE TO LIVE. [APPLAUSE] BUT AT THE SAME. AT THE SAME TIME, MANY OF YOU HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT PROGRESS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND WE KNOW THAT AND WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT. THE BOTTOM LINE TO THAT, THOUGH, IS FOR ME I WANT IT TO BE SMART PROGRESS. OKAY. AND THERE IS A WAY TO DO THAT.

WE MAY NOT ALL GET WHAT WE WANT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND WHEN I CAN VERBALIZE MY CONCERNS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND I WILL AT SOME POINT.

BUT RIGHT NOW, I JUST DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT THIS PLAN.

BUT THAT'S JUST SHARON. THAT'S JUST ME. I'M NOT REAL COMFORTABLE.

LET'S JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR TONIGHT. MR. CHAIRMAN.

SIR. LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, YOU CAME IN AND ALL THE LOTS ARE THE SAME SIZE ON THE 74 ACRES. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU KNOW FROM THAT YOU CAN TRANSITION AND HAVE LARGER LOTS CLOSER TO WHERE THESE FOLKS ARE, AND THEN TRANSITION BACK TO THE OTHER LOTS THERE SO THAT THERE'S A TRANSITION WITHIN THE 74 ACRES RATHER THAN JUST COMING IN AND COOKIE CUTTER ALL THE LOTS IN THERE AND COME BACK TO US WITH A, PLAN THAT WOULD WOULD DO THAT TO TRY TO GET SOME SEMBLANCE OF A LOWER DENSITY CLOSER TO WHERE THESE FOLKS ARE. AND THEN AS YOU GET FURTHER AWAY, GET TO WHAT YOU HAVE HERE.

CHAIRMAN SCHNEE COMMISSIONER FLINT, IF I MAY, JUST TO SPEAK TO THE TOWN CODE PERSPECTIVE OF IT, THE WAY THAT THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS IN THE TOWN CODE ARE SET UP IS BASED ON MINIMUM LOT SIZE.

SO AS YOU KNOW, R4 SIGNIFIES A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 4,000.

THAT BEING SAID, THE NEXT STEP UP R5 SIGNIFIES A LOT SIZE OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO BEING THAT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS BEING PROPOSED TO BE REZONED TO R4, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY HAVE TO LIE WITHIN THAT LOT SIZE AMOUNT.

SO. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO AUSTIN, IF WE'RE COMING BACK FOR REZONING, WHY NOT HAVE A SPLIT REZONING AND PART OF THE PROPERTY, MAYBE HAVE 14,000 FOOT LOTS AND TRANSITION DOWN TO YOUR 4,000 FOOT LOTS? SURE. SO I GUESS IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE THAT LOT LAYOUT IS NOT IN THE APPLICATION PACKAGE BECAUSE THE WAY THE SITE ANALYSIS REQUIREMENTS, THEY JUST STATE WHAT'S THE LAND USE PLAN? RIGHT. SO THE LAND USE PLAN THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE BOOK JUST HAS ONE BIG R4 BLOCK.

RIGHT. THAT'S NOT A PARTICULARLY HELPFUL EXHIBIT TO SHOW ANYBODY AT A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING OR, OR THIS. BECAUSE THERE'S NO DEFINITION TO IT.

SO I PROVIDED THIS AS AN IDEA AND IT SERVED A PURPOSE BECAUSE THIS IS THE PLAN THAT I SHOWED AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.

AND YOU KNOW, IT GOT THE CONVERSATION GOING. NOBODY GOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.

IT WAS ONE PERSON.

YOU'LL HAVE YOUR TIME. YEAH.

OKAY. WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ANNOUNCED? YES, IT WAS NOTICED. I CAN PROVIDE THE MAILING LABEL LIST.

EVERYBODY IN THERE WHO IT WAS MAILED TO. OKAY.

HAVE YOU SEEN.

IT'S LITERALLY 150FT. I MEASURED IT FROM THE INTERSECTION BEHIND THE ONE SIGN. OKAY, THAT ANSWERS MY NEXT QUESTION.

OKAY. OKAY. PLEASE. SO AS I WAS SAYING PROVIDING AN ILLUSTRATIVE SITE PLAN LIKE THIS DID SERVE THE PURPOSE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE LOTS AND HOW THEY MIGHT

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YOU KNOW, THAT SAID, I THINK THE TIME FOR PUTTING IN REQUIREMENTS ABOUT LOT SIZES AND BUFFERING THINGS LIKE THAT IS NOW. RIGHT. SO EVEN IF THIS LOT LAYOUT IS JUST, JUST A CONCEPT THAT WOULD FIT WITHIN THE CODE I THINK THAT THERE COULD BE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IN DEFERENCE TO THIS EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD SAYING, WELL, R4 IS FINE BECAUSE THAT IS IN LINE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD YOU KNOW, A CONDITION WOULD BE ADDED THAT MAYBE ALL THE LOTS ALONG BOTH OF THOSE EDGES THERE ARE LIMITED TO SINGLE STORY AND ARE LIMITED TO YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, 14,000FT² OR SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF CONDITIONS THAT I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IF THAT'S A CONCERN THAT THE COMMISSION HAS. AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ON THAT NOTE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD FROM THE SPEAKERS WAS ABOUT HERITAGE AND LOW DENSITY RANCH STYLE.

AND I MEAN, THE GENERAL PLAN IS INFUSED WITH LANGUAGE ABOUT PRESERVING HERITAGE, RIGHT? THERE'S SO MUCH OF THE GENERAL PLAN WHICH WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND THE VOTERS ABOUT PRESERVING MARANA FARMING HERITAGE.

AND PART OF THAT OVERALL PACKAGE, PART OF THAT OVERALL GENERAL PLAN PACKAGE, WAS TO SAY THAT AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE IN THIS ENTIRE AREA IS THAT TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGNATION 2 TO 18.

SO TO SAY THAT THIS SHOULD BE ACTUALLY SOMETHING FAR BELOW WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN ACTUALLY SAYS, RIGHT? GENERAL PLAN SAYS TWO IS A MINIMUM. AND WE'RE DOWN THERE NEAR THAT TO SAY, WELL, THIS SHOULD BE SOMETHING SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THAT ACTUALLY WOULDN'T BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN THAT WAS CRAFTED TO PRESERVE HERITAGE AND TO DIRECT FUTURE GROWTH.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A MISMATCH THERE. YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF MAYBE EXPECTATIONS, BUT THIS IS COMPLIANT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.

IT'S ON THE LOW END AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ADDITIONAL BUFFERING NEXT TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN LOT SIZE, ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE, BUFFER WIDTH BUILDING HEIGHT.

THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE ALONG THOSE EDGES. BUT TO SAY WHOLESALE THAT THE DENSITY IS INCOMPATIBLE DISREGARDS WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN SAYS AND ALSO KIND OF DISREGARDS ALL THE STUFF THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED ALL AROUND IT.

YOU KNOW, PAUL I WOULD AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I THINK IF YOU KNOW, WE THINK ABOUT MAYBE ACCOMPLISHING THE TRANSITION WITH MORE BUFFERS AND THE SINGLE STORY ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THE SOUTH ABUTTING LOTS AS WELL, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS I THINK WILL GO TO IT.

BUT I AGREE WITH YOU THAT I HATE TO USE THE EUPHEMISM, BUT YOU KNOW THE HORSE IS OUT OF THE CORRAL ALREADY WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S HAPPENING TO THE EAST THERE AND THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

BUT NONETHELESS, I'D LIKE TO TRY TO PROTECT THESE FOLKS AS MUCH AS WE CAN, WHETHER IT BE BY BUFFERING OR LOWER DENSITY OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE FOR A WHILE. THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE THAT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SEE SOMEBODY COMING UP AND BUYING ALL THEIR HOMES AND BUILDING SOMETHING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

I MEAN, MAYBE 20, 30 YEARS FROM NOW OR 40 YEARS, WHO KNOWS? BUT THESE FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE THERE FOR A WHILE AND THEY'RE PART OF MARANA.

AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE THIS AS PALATABLE AS POSSIBLE TO KEEP THEM THERE AND LET THEM ENJOY MOST OF THE LIFESTYLE THAT THEY'VE GOT THERE.

EVERYTHING IS APPROVED IS FARM IF THIS GOES TO COUNCIL, YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

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OKAY. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN ADD, THE WHOLE OBJECTIVE IS TO SORT OF FLESH THESE THINGS OUT NOW, BECAUSE YOU MAY SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT BY THE TIME IT GETS TO COUNCIL.

HE MAY HAVE MORE BUFFERS. HE MAY HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES EVERYBODY SOME WORKING ROOM HERE.

BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME TO THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING AND SEE WHAT THE FINAL SUBMITTAL IS.

AND YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER SHOT AT IT AT THAT TIME.

OKAY. CHAIRMAN SCHNEE, IF I MAY JUST BRIEFLY, FOR THE RECORD, I DID CONFER WITH BRETT AND NOTICE WAS PROVIDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TOWN CODE AND STATE STATUTE. OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND COMMISSIONER FLINT KIND OF ADDRESSED SOME OF MY ISSUES, BUT I DO BELIEVE THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK.

I DON'T WANT TO BE A DOWNER. I THINK COMPROMISE IS A GREAT WORD.

AND I WANT US TO RESPECT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE RESIDENTS WHO'VE LIVED IN THESE HOMES FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND THEY HAVE A LIFESTYLE THAT THE ACREAGE AROUND THEIR HOME ALLOWS THEM TO DO CERTAIN THINGS LIKE RAISE LIVESTOCK, WHICH REQUIRES BIGGER MACHINERY AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN ACCOMMODATE OR COMPROMISE AND WORK WITH OUR RESIDENTS TO MAKE THIS MORE PALATABLE, LIKE COMMISSIONER FLINT, THEN I CAN FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT WHERE WE'RE HEADED.

BUT I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING US TO ASK YOU ALL THESE QUESTIONS.

YEAH FOR SURE. I WANT TO MAKE IT WORK AS WELL.

AND I THINK SOME OF THE DIRECTION THAT COMMISSIONER FLINT WAS GOING WITH, YOU KNOW, INCREASING LOT SIZES ALONG THAT EDGE.

I MEAN, I AGREE WITH YOU. RIGHT. AND THE REASON WE ADDED THE SINGLE STORY IS BECAUSE THE NEIGHBOR WHO CONTACTED ME EXPRESSED A CONCERN ABOUT THAT. AND SO WE ADDED THAT TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN.

RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO AGREE TO RESTRICTING ALL THE HOMES ALONG THE SHARED EDGE WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO SINGLE STORY. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO AGREE TO A LARGER MINIMUM LOT SIZE ALONG THAT EDGE AS WELL.

I MEAN, COMMISSIONER FLINT SAID 14,000FT². I'M SURE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WILL BE FINE.

MORE LANDSCAPE BUFFERING. I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO BE OKAY.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS IMPORTANT. I THINK IF WE HAVE LARGER LOTS ALONG THAT EDGE TOO.

SO THERE'S A BALANCE THERE. BUT YOU GUYS ARE ON THE COMMISSION FOR A REASON.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO ADD IT'S HEARKENING BACK TO SOMETHING I HEARD THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT SCHOOL CAPACITY.

WE DID GET A LETTER FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CONFIRMING THERE IS CAPACITY TO SERVE THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'LL BE DOING ALL THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO DO.

SO THAT'S WE CAN'T EXPECT, I THINK ONE OF THE SPEAKERS SAID, COULD WE GET THE DEVELOPERS TO BUILD ALL THE ROADS AND THEN BUILD THE HOUSES? AND LIKE, NO, THAT JUST DOESN'T WORK. YOU NEED MONEY TO BUILD THE ROADS, RIGHT? SO IT HAS TO GO HAND IN HAND. SO ANYWAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.

OKAY, AUSTIN, DO WE KNOW WHEN THIS IS ANTICIPATED TO COME BACK TO THE TOWN COUNCIL? CHAIRMAN SCHNEE COMMISSIONER FLINT. AT THE MOMENT, I HAVE IT SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 1ST.

THE NOTICES ARE ON MY DESK READY TO GO. AND AFTER THIS MEETING, I WAS GOING TO SEND THEM OUT.

OKAY. SO, PAUL, LET ME ASK YOU, DO YOU NEED SOME MORE TIME TO HOPEFULLY MODIFY THIS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IS SEPTEMBER 1ST TOO SOON, OR TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING FOR THESE FOLKS TO SEE AND WHEN IT GETS TO THE COUNCIL? YEAH. WELL, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT PROCESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IF YOU WERE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH A LIST OF CONDITIONS SUCH AS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, THEN IT WOULD BE NO PROBLEM AT ALL TO GET A MODIFIED PLAN DONE WELL BEFORE THAT HEARING AND HAVE IT READY. I'M JUST TRYING TO HAVE THESE FOLKS LEAVE TONIGHT THAT THEY KNOW WHEN TO COME BACK AND, YOU KNOW, SORT OF WHAT TO EXPECT. YEAH, I CAN EASILY DO THAT IF YOU GIVE ME A LIST.

SO THEN I GUESS THAT GETS US TO WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE GOING TO BE PUT ON FOR TONIGHT THEN IF YOU KNOW,

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THAT'S ONE ROUTE FOR SURE. SO I GUESS WE SORT OF NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT CONDITIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL DEFER TO SHARON FOR STARTERS BECAUSE SHE GOT THE BALL ROLLING ON THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT THE BALL ROLLING OR JUST CREATED ANOTHER CAN OF WORMS, BUT I LIKE THE IDEA, PAUL, OF THE SINGLE STORY ALL THE WAY AROUND.

ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S. I LIKE THE OPTION OF LARGER LOTS ALONG THAT EDGE.

OH YES PLEASE. AND I WOULD LOVE FOR THE LOTS TO BE THE SIZE OF WHAT COMMISSIONER FLINT MENTIONED. LET ME SAY I JUST THREW THAT OUT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT HE CAN ACHIEVE THAT. IT MAY BE 12,000 OR WHATEVER, BUT SOMETHING LARGER THAN.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE LARGER LOTS. 4,000. YEAH.

HOW ABOUT ENGAGEMENT WITH ALL OF THE OWNERS? PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH OWNERS AROUND THE PROPERTY.

I REPRESENT HSL TO THE NORTH. WE WERE NEVER KNOWN ABOUT PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.

WE WERE NOTIFIED BY MARANA OF THIS MEETING. OKAY.

PUBLIC PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND US. SO PART OF THE CONDITION SHOULD BE PUBLIC OUTREACH.

THAT SHOULD HAPPEN BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE YOU CAN HEAR ALL OF US, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW OKAY. MR. WITTENBERG, ARE YOU TAKING THAT FOR ACTION? GETTING THE WORD OUT FOR THE COMMUNITY. YES. ENGAGEMENT? WELL, I GUESS FOR THE APPLICANT, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OPTIONS HERE.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN ESTABLISH REASONABLE CONDITIONS THAT THEY THINK TONIGHT AND MOVE THAT RECOMMENDATION FORWARD TO THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING. IT MAY BE BENEFICIAL IF THE APPLICANT IS AMENABLE TO IT TO CONTINUE THIS HEARING, TO GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT BASED ON THE DISCUSSIONS AND THE INPUT RECEIVED TONIGHT WHAT TYPES OF CONDITIONS THAT THEY MAY BE WILLING TO ACCEPT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY, SO I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'RE BUILDING.

AND WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS? LOT SIZE. LARGER LOT SIZES.

SINGLE STORY ON BOTH THE SOUTH AND THE OTHER SIDE.

I'M NOT REAL GOOD AT DIRECTIONS. PARDON ME. EAST SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT OR THE WEST SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORS.

SINGLE STORY. AND THEN IF THE LOTS CAN BE 12,000 TO 14.

THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER. I THINK JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH A COMPROMISE THAT WILL ALLOW THE RESIDENTS TO CONTINUE TO LIVE THE LIFE THAT THEY'VE CHOSEN TO LIVE IS PART OF MY WANTING TO COMPROMISE AND TO COME UP WITH A SUGGESTION AND REASONABLE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND I THINK WE'RE ALL REASONABLE ADULTS. COMMISSIONER FLINT, I'LL LET YOU TAKE OVER NOW.

MR. CHAIRMAN. PAUL, ON THE WHAT WOULD BE THE BUFFER TO THE SOUTH OF WHERE THE RESIDENTS ARE OR THE NORTH SIDE OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT? WHY IS THAT BUFFER NARROWER THAN THE BUFFER THAT IS RUNNING NORTH SOUTH, YOU KNOW, PERPENDICULAR TO IT? SURE. SO AGAIN, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, ILLUSTRATIVE HERE THE ONE ON THE SOUTH MEETS THE MARANA MINIMUM BUFFER YARD REQUIREMENT. THE ONE ON THE WEST I WAS PLANNING

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SO I ALLOWED FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE WIDTH THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, LET ME JUST SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, MARANA HAS GOT A GREAT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN AND FROM MY PLANNING EXPERIENCE, WHEN WE SIT DOWN AND WRITE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES, WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE NEXT TO WHEN THAT CODE HAS TO BE APPLIED.

AND I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE EACH INSTANCE ON ITS OWN.

AND BECAUSE REALLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, HERE IT IS, EACH ONE IS UNIQUE.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO INCREASE THE BUFFER THERE ON BOTH SIDES ALSO TO FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE THERE IN ADDITION TO THE, SINGLE STORY AND THE LARGER LOTS. SO. BRETT, HOW DO WE WANT TO WORD THIS CONDITION WISE SO THAT YOU ALL CAN WORK WITH PAUL ON IT.

SO THE ITEMS THAT I HAVE DOWN HERE IS SINGLE STORY UNITS ADJACENT TO ON THE EAST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY AND THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

SO SOUTH SIDE OF THE EXISTING RESIDENCES AND WEST OF THE EXISTING RESIDENCES.

MINIMUM LOT SIZE 12 TO 14,000FT. DAVID I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO BE.

DO WE NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC WITH THAT SAYING MINIMUM OF 12,000FT² MOVING FORWARD OR 14,000FT².

MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN IT'S WITHIN THE COMMISSION'S PURVIEW AS TO WHAT THEY THINK IS A REASONABLE BUFFER ADJACENT TO THOSE PROPERTIES AS WELL. BUT I WOULD PROBABLY SPECIFY MINIMUM 100 FOOT, 75 FOOT, 50 FOOT. YEAH. WHAT'S THE BUFFER ON THE WHAT WOULD BE THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHERE HE WAS GOING TO GET THE DRAINAGE IN. WHAT PAUL, WHAT'S YOUR BUFFER THERE? THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 40FT. I'M JUST GOING OFF OF THE ROADWAY IS ABOUT 40FT.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT THE SAME WIDTH. WHAT'S THE WEST SIDE BUFFER? I'M SORRY. THAT'S THE ONE I WAS TALKING ABOUT. OKAY.

YEAH. WHICH ONE? YEAH. THAT'S FINE. I THINK WHATEVER WE DO ON ONE SIDE, IT'S FAIR TO DO IT ON THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, I HATE THE SITE PLAN FROM THE DAIS, BUT I'D LIKE THESE FOLKS TO GO HOME WITH SOME SEMBLANCE OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH TONIGHT. AND YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO FORWARD TO THE TOWN COUNCIL WITH APPROVAL, WITH THE CONDITIONS ON THE SINGLE STORY, ON ALL THE LOTS ABUTTING PROPERTIES AND THE BUFFERS TO BE NO LESS THAN 40FT ALONG EACH AND THE LOT SIZE TO BE A MINIMUM OF 12,000FT ABUTTING THAT.

ABUTTING THE EXISTING PROPERTIES. FOLKS, I KNOW IT'S NOT EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT, BUT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE TOWN CODE PROVIDES FOR. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT THE MOTION.

SO WITH THAT, WITH THOSE CONDITIONS, UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHERS.

AND THERE'S 12 OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS. YES. AND THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN COUNCIL.

CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. ROLL CALL PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER TYSON. AYE. COMMISSIONER PARSONS.

NO. COMMISSIONER MCINTYRE. AYE. COMMISSIONER FLINT.

AYE. CHAIRMAN SCHNEE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT. OKAY.

NEXT IS COMMISSION ACTION.

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COMMISSIONER FLINT, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? I'M FINE WITH THAT. OKAY.

OKAY. AND. MR. CHAIRMAN. ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS? NO, SIR. OKAY. OKAY. SILENCE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE NOMINATION? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MAYBE. [LAUGHTER] OKAY. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. CHAIR. MOTION TO ADJOURN. YOU GOT TO MAKE IT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY. ONE MORE THING. I'M SORRY.

I NEED A SECOND. SECOND. FOR EACH NOMINATION.

OKAY, SO A SECOND. THANK YOU, SIR. AND YOU, MR. COMMISSIONER MCINTYRE, YOU SECONDING. YES. BOTH THE VICE CHAIR AND CHAIR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL IN FAVOR? I DO NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN. AND A SECOND. YES, WE GOT A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. SEE YOU NEXT TIME, GUYS.

ALL RIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.